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Quote Originally Posted by GMSI: 05/06: 1/19/08 NJ ... G2 would be a push with 3 pt buy if u got it at +11 the opening... closed @ +10.5 for loss... Thanks GMSI 05/06 wasnt great! previous years have been ok by looks of it, 2 losses in 08, 2 losses 07. I think I am going to scrap straight chasing, and play a labouchere line with 2 point buys only. Not as much juice to add to the lines if they lose but also still covering myself for that extra safety of 2 points. Nice one |
UKlad | 7 |
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Quote Originally Posted by deutscher: UKlad, your right but this system is following teams that have lots 3 SU and ATS. If they are favoured going in its not going to be that bad and it hasn't been. Actually its been quite good. Ah I see what you mean, chances are the teams in this system are most likely the poorer teams in the league hence why they have already lost 3 SU previously.. Cool thanks. Saying that I read somewhere that something like 80% of all faves cover the spread, which is pretty scary if we are backing a dog who has been playing pants recently! |
KongKiller | 273 |
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Quote Originally Posted by rm2673: how do you buy points when handicapping online on bodog for example? please help Sorry I am not sure with bodog, I only use pinnacle and there is simply an option above the sports betting catergories to 'buy points'.. I would just email their customer support. If you can't see it chances are they may not offer customers it as some books don't - which was actually why i moved to pinnacle.. |
UKlad | 7 |
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Continued from above....
As an example below - again using a good team like colts, lets say we are due them for this systems plays: Colts A game and they are the dog to win $100... they lose Colts B game on ML to win the money LOST in A plus $100 Profit....they lose Colts C game again on ML to win money LOST in A plus ALOT of money LOST in B and they are heavy faves here... we will now be laying ALOT on this game to win that single $100 correct??? |
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I think I would only like to play this system if the team going forward in the set of 3 games was looking to be an dog on all 3 games.. If you are playing the ML it could eat up some BR no?
I mean let's say we are about to play Colts on their B or C game, or even A for that matter to beat say Tampa on the ML,.. given it would or SHOULD happen but it will also mean laying some hard cash down to win that single unit needed. Am I right or completely missing this systems point?? |
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Quote Originally Posted by puppetm716: Last year, only buying 2 points instead of 3 resulted in one game ended in a push instead of a win. Of course that was last year. This year....? In duscussions, some have suggested just playing the system without buying the points. I don't have the exact figures but I believe "buying the points" resulted in over 10 wins last year. Best of Luck 1 down, 74 more to go. Thanks Puppet I think I am going to stick with 2 point buys this season.. We'll see how I get on! |
UKlad | 7 |
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Quote Originally Posted by usakangy:
For this system... I will do a hybrid. I will spread them across all lines but add the amount to the last number on each line. This way, I don't have to win extra games to clear the line, allowing me to clear the lines quicker. For example, If I have the following: A 30-30-30-30 B 30-30-30-30 C 30-30-30-30 First game I choose the A line, bet to win 60. If I lose, I lose 66. I would distribute and add the loss to the last number in each line making the lines look like this.... A 30-30-30-52 B 30-30-30-52 C 30-30-30-52 The next bet, I choose line A, bet to win 82. If I win, the lines look like this.... A 30-30 B 30-30-30-52 C 30-30-30-52 Now, if you lose again, we lose approx 90, and distribute this way A 30-30-30-82 B 30-30-30-82 C 30-30-30-82 The third bet would be A for 112. If that losses, the loss is about 125. I would just add the losses to the end of the line like this.... A 30-30-30-82-42 B 30-30-30-82-42 C 30-30-30-82-42 This will add an extra couple games to complete the line, but it should not happen much. It's sorta my own spin. Remember, for labby to work, each chase series must win on average in under 2 bets. If you continue to win, lose, win, lose, win, lose, you will never clear a line. Doing it this way, you can. JM's [A] bets usually win, but if they don't, the [B]'s usually hit. Each way, I get to remove numbers. Hi Kangy Why not just play your games on each line seperately? A GAMES: 30-30-30-30 B GAMES: 30-30-30-30 C GAMES: 30-30-30-30 This is how I was thinkijng of doing it.. any thoughts? If it is a broken way let me know! I cant make up my mind now lol |
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Hello everyone. I am just wondering if anyone knows of a link or another thread in which someone has backtested the systems results with just buying the 2 points instead of 3. I have not yet used this sytem chasing, I feel I might try it on small wager only this season, however I am not happy laying the juice for 3 points, 2 is still adding some but seems more conservative should a loss occur. Anyhow if anyone has past results with just the 2 it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks :) |
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I have a question for those using the LAB.
with JM's system plays, are you buying the 3 points in the labouchere and adding the extra juice on the end of line if u lose a game? or not bothering to and sticking to lines created by books keeping juice low? Thanks. |
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It's interesting that the teams that made a C game are all poor teams in the NBA only..
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SRTZEE | 119 |
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It's Saturday that will chuck it down with very heavy rain. Sun will be much drier in general.
https://uk.weather.yahoo.com/england/greater-london/wembley-park-43360/ pitch will prob still be a mess mind! |
Covers | 51 |
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What we saying then guys?! Patriots to cover?
I'm going to the game this sunday :) not that you care lol... very excited for my first live game though! |
Covers | 51 |
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Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network: wouldn't expect any other reply from the UK where Ricky Hatton is a national treasure.Please note, I am picking the Under, not the winner, who most likely will be Manny Pacquiao, but that's why their fighting, right? To see who comes out on top....... Lol I love these smileys! GL with the bet, You are prob right...It will be the Under as Hatton will take him out early!! Hatton Manny The Crowd |
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No chance...
Hatton going to knock his block off no probs! Manny = |
sports_Network | 15 |
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Sluggy,
there was a guy tracking the morriosn system with labouchere method through NBA I watched carefully,.. he has also just started doing his own thing for MLB with it.. if you check here: https://nbasystem.blogspot.com/ You can see how it played out, and on the 3 seperate lines also.. Scroll down from top past MLB and see NBA, as you can see the Line 1 list is alot longer than line 2 and 3... this is because in a system GAME A's are hitting wins obviously more than B's and C's Also note: overall his log ended A = 43-33-2 B = 20-11-3 C = 9-5 therefore as line C lost 5 times this means if you were straight chasing that would be 5 times a team lost there 3 game series through season! ouch!!! as you can with the Labouchere it was not really a problem as you recover your stakes... |
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Quote Originally Posted by sluggy: Ok I just e-mailed Jonn still waiting for a response I believe this bet does not fall under his new v2.0 he has developed I will await his reply and repost it for tonights game I have faith in his new V2.0 been with him for a year and doing well. Iam also new to psic system doing well but dont totally understand the lab moneymangement system any help?
Sluggy I play the labouchere system also, it is good for cutting losses but maximising on your win runs.. simply, place 4 stakes in a bracket, eg/ (20-20-20-20) this bracket totals 4 x stakes of £20 = £80 total you then bet the outside 2 numbers together for your first bet, so (20-20-20-20) betting £40 to win Now if it wins, you take them 2 away so you would now be left with: (X-20-20-X) next bet will be £40 again as 2 numbers left... If the game originally lost you would simply add the stake you bet to the end of your line so it would look like: (20-20-20-20-40) next bet will be £60 Get it? Hope it makes sense! The good thing is that if you win you are always take 2 numbers off, if you have a loss you are only adding one, so we get an advantage in our lines... In NBA we basically played a system (say for example morrisons 3 game East/West series) on 3 seperate Lab lines so decreasing any one line getting out of control should a team lose all 3 games.. eg/ Teams game 1 (20-20-20-20) Teams game 2 (20-20-20-20) Teams game 3 (20-20-20-20) Hope this helps?!!! seem to be clogging up this thread with a massive post, sorry about that! |
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C'mon guys.. don't spoil the thread.. It's a lovely sunny day so just chill!
Sports_network, I mean no offense intended at all but I got to confess, I don't really know what the angle is here ? what is it your suggesting be the main issue with this thread? I thought we were just discussing a certain service and the system results, so far we have done exactly that havn't we? There has been no plays since the ones said. Let me know how I can try help out any more.. again no offense, or direct dig, just unclear as to why it's all getting out of hand! All the best :) |
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Quote Originally Posted by Lippsman: You could say anything over -160 or so is played at a -1 line. Marlon B, The way he is splitting his wagers on the big juice games is actually a -1 wager. Not a -1.5 wager. So in fact the one run wins would be a push. Because if the fave did win by two or more runs that would be a plus payback on the -1.5 wager. If you use the Labouchere system then it would not be as much of a problem with the bigger juice games. Although anytime you lay -150 or more on a game you are playing with fire. UKlad, Did he actually say play the -1.5 line? If he did that changes everything. Also maybe he wasn't clear on the runline thing. Did he mean play the -1.5 line or make a -1 line? I really don't know what the problem is. If the guy is giving out the same plays to everyone I wonder why there is so much conficting reporting on the plays. It's probably best to just post his plays. It's up to each person to make a -1 line to get the juice down to something reasonable. Now did he make a play on Atlanta or not? Also, is all of his plays on myhandicapper, he is telling his clients about? Or will he make some plays that he doesn't post on myhandicapper. Because if he actually does then it's no need to post them, because you can just log on and see what he played. thanks?
Lol , He never stated to play just -1.5, but more his recommendation, he said we were more than welcome to opt for just the moneyline but either way it was a play for the day and they won. - However I considered it a loss, because as I say I am using my current Labcouhere lines, he did say at these prices you can not effectively use Labouchere which is why we went for just the yankees -1.5 runline if using Labouchere, otherwise we will not recover our losses at the odds of a 1.40 fave for example... this is how it differs to what money management you are using.. If you played the ML then you wouldnt of been using Labouchere method I think.. Using my Labouchere I bet just runline with Yankees as recommended, he has posted it as a loss anyway on that handicapper site based on it being played RL only??.... u can see it says Loss and above the split for both the Tampa Rays ML and RL for that day... |
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Quote Originally Posted by NoWorries21: I dont understand. Not hating but all this talk and not a single pick. So the way you get everyone to believe is winning. So lets get on it not talk about it. |
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So what's our picks then?...
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