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CalBear2009 | 65 |
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Quote Originally Posted by CalBear2009: This article captures everything perfectly....calling it the Jordy Nelson injury fallout: https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/the-jordy-nelson-injury-fallout-more-starters-to-sit-out-game-three -6 Now.
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CalBear2009 | 65 |
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Quote Originally Posted by EastsideBangers: Hey Cal Where i live, i get alot of Philadelphia coverage as well as sports talk radio. When i tell you that Eagles coverage on sports talk radio here dominates the day, thats not an understatement. You ain't lying. Birds are more than deep at a number of positions, and there are a number of quality guys that are going to be looking to make a statement for their spot on the final roster. Deep at WR and TE. Deep at ILB. Deep in the secondary. D line is top 5. O line is top 5.Deep at running back. WTFKs. Although I hvae been in Miami now for the past 13 years, I was born/raised in Philly and I still tune in to Philly sports radio to/from work everyday (and Sirius NFL when that gets redundant). I dont know how much "revenge" one gets by beating a team in the pre-season that whipped your a$$ in a reg season game. Thats not where I like this play. I like this play because GB aint gonna be playing Rogers. His backup might be concussed, no Jordy, etc. While the Birds will be playing Bradford, Sanchez, and/or Tebow, and all of the aforementioned depth. Again, 1st team vs. first team regular season is a different matchup all the way around, but Eagles backups vs a lot of other teams' backups has me liking this play a lot...and the line is now Birds (-3). |
CalBear2009 | 65 |
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Quote Originally Posted by EastsideBangers:
Hey Cal Where i live, i get alot of Philadelphia coverage as well as sports talk radio. When i tell you that Eagles coverage on sports talk radio here dominates the day, thats not an understatement. You ain't lying. Birds are more than deep at a number of positions, and there are a number of quality guys that are going to be looking to make a statement for their spot on the final roster. Deep at WR and TE. Deep at ILB. Deep in the secondary. D line is top 5. O line is top 5.Deep at running back. WTFKs. Although I hvae been in Miami now for the past 13 years, I was born/raised in Philly and I still tune in to Philly sports radio to/from work everyday (and Sirius NFL when that gets redundant). I dont know how much "revenge" one gets by beating a team in the pre-season that whipped your a$$ in a reg season game. Thats not where I like this play. I like this play because GB aint gonna be playing Rogers. His backup might be concussed, no Jordy, etc. While the Birds will be playing Bradford, Sanchez, and/or Tebow, and all of the aforementioned depth. Again, 1st team vs. first team regular season is a different matchup all the way around, but Eagles backups vs a lot of other teams' backups has me liking this play a lot...and the line is now Birds (-3). |
CalBear2009 | 65 |
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I would stop betting on the game. I like the Birds and really like the bet at PK, but its still pre-season. What I would have told you to do is instead of putting $2.6k on Birds, see if you could get an alternative line (Birds giving like 7) and see what those odds are and maybe lat a little on that. I wouldn't really look to hedge. I like The Birds in this match-up. Reg season where its all starters I might not, but knowing how deep the Eagles roster is and the fact that they'll be seeing ~ decent playing time...I just like them in htis match up a lot more than I would if it were the GB 1's going against the Philly 1's
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CalBear2009 | 65 |
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They were pick'em yest. -1.5 today.
No Jordy Nelson. Back up QB may be out w concussion. GB's "O" will be "Handoff to Eddie Lacy on the right". "Hand off to Eddie Lacy on the left". GB gonna be looking just to get out of here w out injury. Eagles run D is stout. Deep at ILB. Sick D line. Better secondary. WTFs. |
CalBear2009 | 65 |
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Grabbed em yesterday at pick'em.
Eagles are WAY too deep for other teams for pre-season matchups. Our 2's and 3's get more reps than any other squads due to the tempo of our camps, practices, OTAs. We're deep at all the key positions. We'll see. Thats why they fight the fights, but I love our chances here vs. a hurting Packers squad. |
fitchris562 | 9 |
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Real good backups.
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CalBear2009 | 65 |
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I took the Birds as well. Their 2nd and 3rd teamers get more repst than any other 2md and 3rd team unit in the league. Couple that w the fact that the Eagles are STACKED, depthwise, and I think its a good play.
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CalBear2009 | 65 |
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Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger: What is he supposed to say during the Wlad/Haye fight? "Those booing just don't understand the subtle nuances. This is world class stuff." ? And the guy who 'demoted' Merchant (even though that's not what happened) just got fired/forced to quit, so what does that tell you Of course Larry got demoted. Max Kellerman took his spot, and when it was proven that Max wasn't quite ready, they brought Larry back to split time. As far as Klit/Haye - Wlad Klit could be criticized every bit as much as Haye in there. To be 6'6", 245 and fight like one of the biggest scared p@ssies the hvy wt division has ever seen is embarrassing. He should be steam rolling cats. Yet he flinches and cringes any time he is feinted, and once that china chin is tapped, he gets all huggy like John Ruiz. |
jaygutty | 34 |
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He is. He is increasingly belligerent, uninterested, and overly critical of anything other than blood & guts.
I am well aware of all the bad that is HBO. Still, IF Im HBO, and I am trying to put on a show, the last thing I need is to have my lead analyst bitching and moaning the entire time. There's a reason why he was demoted. |
jaygutty | 34 |
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What the fck does ANY of that have to do with Larry Merchant. Im well aware of the fact that HBO bids against itself for what it deems marquis fights. Bradley/Alexander should have NEVER rec'd the licensing fee HBO outbid itself for, but they were. Roy Jones should have NEVER been given a contract in which HBO let him pick his opponents, yet it did.
What does ANY of that have to do with Larry Merchant, and his penchant for fighters that lead with their faces and fight like they're in Tough Man competitions. You dont give a fck about the nuances of the Sweet Science. Not everybody does. Some people need their boxing spoon fed to 'em. Difference between checkers and chess. |
jaygutty | 34 |
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Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger: Roy is awful as a commentator? Wow. OK. First person I ever heard claim that.
They are?!? They are clueless. Ross is out as of today. Maybe things will change now, but they were hurting the sport more than any other entity (sanctioning orgs, promoters, etc). And Roy is awful. Let me correct what I said - HBO is trying to build up theirproduction value. For better or worse (and I agree they are they created this monester), they are trying to hype up production, and one of their employees is sh!tt!ng on it. |
jaygutty | 34 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Goldfisch: I at first really liked Khan;quick hands, high punch rate,Freddie Roach and decent footwork. However, I am concerned about his super soft chin and the fact that if he is pushed past 6 rounds he does tend to make some mistakes. Compound this with the fact Jab looks HUGE in his pictures of training on a website that I frequent. (can I say the name of the site?) and Jab is the only man to truly hurt Mayweather who has the best defense in boxing. I am actually thinking about taking Jab here. I need some opinions. And yes I know there is already a thread but it wasnt that good. Zab is NOT the only person to ever hurt Mayweather. See Mayweather/Corley and Rnd 2 of Mayweather/Mosley. Zab definitely has a puncher's chance, but thew best value you could get I guess would be to parlay Kahn w Danny Green. |
Goldfisch | 21 |
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And sorry for the double-post, boys. I tripped and thought I erased my first response, when in reality there is some latency from when you hit "submit" to when it actcually posts. Jackass that I am
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ZOUK | 42 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Goldfisch: There is NOTHING having Steward in his corner is going to do about it. Cotto will throw everything and the kitchen sink, and Margarito will walk through it and grind him down all over again.jbell. Your argument is convincing. I still think Cotto though, because of Steward in his corner. Your argument that Pac had to be hospitalized after the fight doesnt do much for me though. Many fighter go to the hospital after a fight. Brain scans and MRI's this is somewhat normal. Plus he was fighting a fast pace fight and most likely was very dehydrated, so he needed IV's. I just like Cotto here. Margarito is slowing and plodding, no quickness at all. Margarito is less worse for wear than Cotto, IMO, and at this point in their respective careers, he has sooo much more to prove. His entire legacy, and, at this point, only chance at redemption, lies in beating Cotto. It will show that the first result wasn't a fluke. On the other side of it, you have to wonder that Cotto wil start getting psyched out at the first solid punch he takes. Its gonna be playing with his mind whether this guy is loaded up or not. I just dont think at this point in his career, Cotto's team will let him get beat to a pulp again. He was beat the fck up in their first fight, and has been in some other serious wars. I see them "no massing" it again...or suffer another prolonged beat down. Look, I could care less about these guys other than I enjoy their respective styles. Ex is my guy. I follow the isht outta the sport (which doesnt make me right), so I have watched both these guys for a while and I know what they do in their off time. I think its awesome they're getting back in the ring again. Thats cool of Cotto, cuz many were telling him to not give this guy a fight. There was some bitterness on Team Cotto's part. This is going to be a great fight. If anyone should be favored here, its Margarito. This is covers.com. When we see Margarito going off at +175, you gotta jump all over that. I'l be a mushroom cloud laying mother fkr if that line doesn't NARROW. I'll be a wood laying mthrfkr if thos odds widen. Look, BOL if you ride w cotto. I'll be around to say "Good job" if he turns out the victor. I'll even feel a little good for him given the cloud around the first go-round. I'll feel equaly good for Margs if he takes it, as I wouldnt mind seeing a little redemption. This fight is just gonna be round 13 of the original. |
ZOUK | 42 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Goldfisch: jbell. Your argument is convincing. I still think Cotto though, because of Steward in his corner. Your argument that Pac had to be hospitalized after the fight doesnt do much for me though. Many fighter go to the hospital after a fight. Brain scans and MRI's this is somewhat normal. Plus he was fighting a fast pace fight and most likely was very dehydrated, so he needed IV's. I just like Cotto here. Margarito is slowing and plodding, no quickness at all. My man, I am not talking about run of the mill, post-fight once-overs. Im talking full-on, bed-ridden in a hospital for several (8-10) days. That is NOT the norm after fights. Im telling you, AT BEST this fight is a pick-em...at BEST. At +175, ALL the value is on Margarita. He has (and already has) the ability to walk through ANYTHING Cotto could throw at him. The Tijuana Tornado is too much for Cotto. The first hard punch Cotto gets hit with is gonna have him guessing the rest of the fight if this guys wraps are loaded, etc. Once that sh*t starts to accumulate, Cotto (or his corner) is gonna "no mas" it. He has no reason to take that beating again. Cotto's been through the rougher end of it between the two. Im telling you. Margarito has so much more to prove at this point. His entire redemption, to an extent, lies in this fight. Look, Im not even a die hard fan of these guys. Hopkins is my guy, but I follow the sport like a mother fkr, and Im just callin it like I see it. |
ZOUK | 42 |
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Im still waiting to see why this reunion fell out.
I have said from day 1 the biggest mistake he made was getting rid of Burns. Without Burns, stay retired. With Burns, I'll root for you one last time. I still feel he didnt deserve those decisions vs. B-Hop, but whatever. |
ZOUK | 6 |
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You guys are trippin if you think post-wraps Margarito does no damage. Manny Paq was hospitalized after his fight w Margarito. Had to cxl several public appearances immediately after because he was flat busted up. This is NOT for dispute.
Marg wasnt ineffective vs Mosley because of the wraps. He was drained because there were scale issues leading up to the weigh in. His team screwed up. The scale in his room was inaccurate, and Margarito thought he was over weight. He went back into a sauna and lost a few more pounds (that he didnt have to lose), and weighed in a few pounds below the limit. He was FCK'D because of it. All the illegal wraps in the world wouldnt have mattered...he couldnt throw any punches he was so assed out. |
ZOUK | 42 |
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On Margarito ALL DAY EVERY DAY.
He will have a LOT to prove in this fight. He was able to take everything Manny Paq had and was still standing at the end of the night. He will be out to prove the first one wasnt a fluke. AT BEST this should be a "pick 'em" fight. there is SERIOUS value in Margarito at +175. IMO. I won bank on him the first time around. He'll do it again. |
ZOUK | 42 |
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