yeah, that's obviously a risk and one reason it's so stupid, but if this is headline news for a few days, i think it's overblown.
on the other hand, even if he didn't know about it, it shows some pretty seriously poor judgment to hire these idiots. apparently, the head of traffic or whatever makes 6 figures, has no related experience and is a an old friend of christie's. but that's how it works, stick your hand out, beg people for money, if you get enough to win an election, use government and money to pay back those who made the investment.
I mean if nothing else you're certainly consistent. You've used similar logic toward obama like what a thousand times?? Nope more like never.
yeah, that's obviously a risk and one reason it's so stupid, but if this is headline news for a few days, i think it's overblown.
on the other hand, even if he didn't know about it, it shows some pretty seriously poor judgment to hire these idiots. apparently, the head of traffic or whatever makes 6 figures, has no related experience and is a an old friend of christie's. but that's how it works, stick your hand out, beg people for money, if you get enough to win an election, use government and money to pay back those who made the investment.
I mean if nothing else you're certainly consistent. You've used similar logic toward obama like what a thousand times?? Nope more like never.
No No, he will be pressed on this issue throughout the campaign because he was the man in charge. It's not like trying to pin things in Libya in Hillary. We all know the fat man called for a traffic jam is this matter. The question is...can he squirm out of it ?
One thing about him he is a showman. He'll be fine and nobody will remember it a couple months down the road let alone a couple years if he does run for the WH. He needs better people who can handle a national stage if he wants to play with the big boys, this is so silly on so many levels. A scandal because of a couple lanes shut down, the people around him are still playing Little League.
No No, he will be pressed on this issue throughout the campaign because he was the man in charge. It's not like trying to pin things in Libya in Hillary. We all know the fat man called for a traffic jam is this matter. The question is...can he squirm out of it ?
One thing about him he is a showman. He'll be fine and nobody will remember it a couple months down the road let alone a couple years if he does run for the WH. He needs better people who can handle a national stage if he wants to play with the big boys, this is so silly on so many levels. A scandal because of a couple lanes shut down, the people around him are still playing Little League.
the bridge thing should go away at some point, but this could be a problem if there is any truth to it.
on the bright side for christie, while the rightwingers may not have loved him before, wasting money, abusing government and never taking any responsibility are basically 3 of the 4 tenets of today's "conservatives" so they probably love him now.
the bridge thing should go away at some point, but this could be a problem if there is any truth to it.
on the bright side for christie, while the rightwingers may not have loved him before, wasting money, abusing government and never taking any responsibility are basically 3 of the 4 tenets of today's "conservatives" so they probably love him now.
Calling people fat and repulsive will never draw criticism from the so-called moderators as long as the name calling comes from the protected think alike crowd. This is not new.
Calling people fat and repulsive will never draw criticism from the so-called moderators as long as the name calling comes from the protected think alike crowd. This is not new.
Calling people fat and repulsive will never draw criticism from the so-called moderators as long as the name calling comes from the protected think alike crowd. This is not new.
Wrong...
I addressed this but LOOK how far back the fellow basher had to go in finding this thread...Jan 2014...
I can find insult/F5 threads from the gang on this very first front page.
Calling people fat and repulsive will never draw criticism from the so-called moderators as long as the name calling comes from the protected think alike crowd. This is not new.
Wrong...
I addressed this but LOOK how far back the fellow basher had to go in finding this thread...Jan 2014...
I can find insult/F5 threads from the gang on this very first front page.
Chris Christie is a cheat and a crook...the perfect traits for a master politician! Maybe he'll pull a Jameis Winston and walk into a convenience store and stuff 6 pounds of Twinkies down his massive pants.
Chris Christie is a cheat and a crook...the perfect traits for a master politician! Maybe he'll pull a Jameis Winston and walk into a convenience store and stuff 6 pounds of Twinkies down his massive pants.
1129ken.. the Left favors the blame game and adopting a victim status. They point fingers everywhere but at themselves...whatever the problem is it is everyone’s fault...
1129ken.. the Left favors the blame game and adopting a victim status. They point fingers everywhere but at themselves...whatever the problem is it is everyone’s fault...
1129ken.. the Left favors the blame game and adopting a victim status. They point fingers everywhere but at themselves...whatever the problem is it is everyone’s fault...
SarasotaSlim ...I completely agree. The victim and blame game is all they have.
1129ken.. the Left favors the blame game and adopting a victim status. They point fingers everywhere but at themselves...whatever the problem is it is everyone’s fault...
SarasotaSlim ...I completely agree. The victim and blame game is all they have.
1129ken.. the Left favors the blame game and adopting a victim status. They point fingers everywhere but at themselves...whatever the problem is it is everyone’s fault...
So should YOU run a test on your theory?
How many threads on this page contain garbage like your post here from your side and how many from how many people are from the left side on this page?
Also, how many repub threads have been F-5 attacked versus what you and the fellas did to Stiln below?
I give you credit though, if there is pretty much ANY opportunity to whine and complain or feel victimized you are VERY good at exploiting that opportunity.
1129ken, I answered your question...there is nothing to disagree with. You made a statement which is 100% false, I called you on it and so what is there to disagree with? Many times posters who offend from both sides have been boxed and talked to. My point was WMI had to look back over a year (waste of time, but it is his time) to find a thread, where I can find one on this very page..page 1.
So do you two geniuses think a leftie wasted their time F-5-ing another lefties thread? And has done so numerous times in the past?
1129ken.. the Left favors the blame game and adopting a victim status. They point fingers everywhere but at themselves...whatever the problem is it is everyone’s fault...
So should YOU run a test on your theory?
How many threads on this page contain garbage like your post here from your side and how many from how many people are from the left side on this page?
Also, how many repub threads have been F-5 attacked versus what you and the fellas did to Stiln below?
I give you credit though, if there is pretty much ANY opportunity to whine and complain or feel victimized you are VERY good at exploiting that opportunity.
1129ken, I answered your question...there is nothing to disagree with. You made a statement which is 100% false, I called you on it and so what is there to disagree with? Many times posters who offend from both sides have been boxed and talked to. My point was WMI had to look back over a year (waste of time, but it is his time) to find a thread, where I can find one on this very page..page 1.
So do you two geniuses think a leftie wasted their time F-5-ing another lefties thread? And has done so numerous times in the past?
How many threads on this page contain garbage like your post here from your side and how many from how many people are from the left side on this page?
Also, how many repub threads have been F-5 attacked versus what you and the fellas did to Stiln below?
I give you credit though, if there is pretty much ANY opportunity to whine and complain or feel victimized you are VERY good at exploiting that opportunity.
1129ken, I answered your question...there is nothing to disagree with. You made a statement which is 100% false, I called you on it and so what is there to disagree with? Many times posters who offend from both sides have been boxed and talked to. My point was WMI had to look back over a year (waste of time, but it is his time) to find a thread, where I can find one on this very page..page 1.
So do you two geniuses think a leftie wasted their time F-5-ing another lefties thread? And has done so numerous times in the past?
I know you think you get to decide everything, but you're wrong. You're a self-important Covers official who thinks just because he says he is right that that settles a disagreement. It doesn't. And your sarcastic references to geniuses does nothing to enhance your credentials as a moderator. True moderators are objective; not sarcastic. You are about as far from objective as anyone I can imagine. And your silly emoticons are simply an attempt to use ridicule when honest words are unavailable to you to support your position. So, understand this: when I say I disagree with you, nothing you can say from your lofty position as a Covers moderator will change that. Good day.
How many threads on this page contain garbage like your post here from your side and how many from how many people are from the left side on this page?
Also, how many repub threads have been F-5 attacked versus what you and the fellas did to Stiln below?
I give you credit though, if there is pretty much ANY opportunity to whine and complain or feel victimized you are VERY good at exploiting that opportunity.
1129ken, I answered your question...there is nothing to disagree with. You made a statement which is 100% false, I called you on it and so what is there to disagree with? Many times posters who offend from both sides have been boxed and talked to. My point was WMI had to look back over a year (waste of time, but it is his time) to find a thread, where I can find one on this very page..page 1.
So do you two geniuses think a leftie wasted their time F-5-ing another lefties thread? And has done so numerous times in the past?
I know you think you get to decide everything, but you're wrong. You're a self-important Covers official who thinks just because he says he is right that that settles a disagreement. It doesn't. And your sarcastic references to geniuses does nothing to enhance your credentials as a moderator. True moderators are objective; not sarcastic. You are about as far from objective as anyone I can imagine. And your silly emoticons are simply an attempt to use ridicule when honest words are unavailable to you to support your position. So, understand this: when I say I disagree with you, nothing you can say from your lofty position as a Covers moderator will change that. Good day.
I know you think you get to decide everything, but you're wrong. You're a self-important Covers official who thinks just because he says he is right that that settles a disagreement. It doesn't. And your sarcastic references to geniuses does nothing to enhance your credentials as a moderator. True moderators are objective; not sarcastic. You are about as far from objective as anyone I can imagine. And your silly emoticons are simply an attempt to use ridicule when honest words are unavailable to you to support your position. So, understand this: when I say I disagree with you, nothing you can say from your lofty position as a Covers moderator will change that. Good day.
Interesting...
talk talk talk talk...nothing of content to disprove what I am suggesting.
Your statement originally made a generalization which you cannot prove..that is a fact. If you would like to PROVE your point, feel free to. When you make a claim which is false then it is your responsibility to prove it correct.
So...go and prove me wrong. Your OPINION is of course yours, but when you state it as you did, why are you shocked when I call you on it as I did?
Feel free to prove me wrong with actual facts, that means posts..data, you know stuff that actually is concrete and would show more than you are stating an opinion.
Dont come trying to call me out and whine and expect me to do nothing about it. As for the moderator repeated jabs..you also need to PROVE those points. Prove where as a moderator I have been as you claim...feel free to do this and I can refute you all day long as I have here.
Moderators can post, have opinions and positions just like you do. I dont mind you proving me wrong, but so far you and SS have done as always...use the "bad Covers mod" card and complain without any facts..
I know you think you get to decide everything, but you're wrong. You're a self-important Covers official who thinks just because he says he is right that that settles a disagreement. It doesn't. And your sarcastic references to geniuses does nothing to enhance your credentials as a moderator. True moderators are objective; not sarcastic. You are about as far from objective as anyone I can imagine. And your silly emoticons are simply an attempt to use ridicule when honest words are unavailable to you to support your position. So, understand this: when I say I disagree with you, nothing you can say from your lofty position as a Covers moderator will change that. Good day.
Interesting...
talk talk talk talk...nothing of content to disprove what I am suggesting.
Your statement originally made a generalization which you cannot prove..that is a fact. If you would like to PROVE your point, feel free to. When you make a claim which is false then it is your responsibility to prove it correct.
So...go and prove me wrong. Your OPINION is of course yours, but when you state it as you did, why are you shocked when I call you on it as I did?
Feel free to prove me wrong with actual facts, that means posts..data, you know stuff that actually is concrete and would show more than you are stating an opinion.
Dont come trying to call me out and whine and expect me to do nothing about it. As for the moderator repeated jabs..you also need to PROVE those points. Prove where as a moderator I have been as you claim...feel free to do this and I can refute you all day long as I have here.
Moderators can post, have opinions and positions just like you do. I dont mind you proving me wrong, but so far you and SS have done as always...use the "bad Covers mod" card and complain without any facts..
talk talk talk talk...nothing of content to disprove what I am suggesting.
Your statement originally made a generalization which you cannot prove..that is a fact. If you would like to PROVE your point, feel free to. When you make a claim which is false then it is your responsibility to prove it correct.
So...go and prove me wrong. Your OPINION is of course yours, but when you state it as you did, why are you shocked when I call you on it as I did?
Feel free to prove me wrong with actual facts, that means posts..data, you know stuff that actually is concrete and would show more than you are stating an opinion.
Dont come trying to call me out and whine and expect me to do nothing about it. As for the moderator repeated jabs..you also need to PROVE those points. Prove where as a moderator I have been as you claim...feel free to do this and I can refute you all day long as I have here.
Moderators can post, have opinions and positions just like you do. I dont mind you proving me wrong, but so far you and SS have done as always...use the "bad Covers mod" card and complain without any facts..
Nice try. Despite your imperial declarations, it is not incumbent on me to prove anything, although it wouldn't be hard to prove you were shamefully wrong declaring Nelson Mandela dead when he wasn't. And, by the way, you have proven nothing in this disagreement. I have an opinion, and the fact that it is not a flattering one of you, doesn't mean I have to write a brief to prove anything. In my opinion, you're consistently and blatantly biased, and frequently objectively wrong.
talk talk talk talk...nothing of content to disprove what I am suggesting.
Your statement originally made a generalization which you cannot prove..that is a fact. If you would like to PROVE your point, feel free to. When you make a claim which is false then it is your responsibility to prove it correct.
So...go and prove me wrong. Your OPINION is of course yours, but when you state it as you did, why are you shocked when I call you on it as I did?
Feel free to prove me wrong with actual facts, that means posts..data, you know stuff that actually is concrete and would show more than you are stating an opinion.
Dont come trying to call me out and whine and expect me to do nothing about it. As for the moderator repeated jabs..you also need to PROVE those points. Prove where as a moderator I have been as you claim...feel free to do this and I can refute you all day long as I have here.
Moderators can post, have opinions and positions just like you do. I dont mind you proving me wrong, but so far you and SS have done as always...use the "bad Covers mod" card and complain without any facts..
Nice try. Despite your imperial declarations, it is not incumbent on me to prove anything, although it wouldn't be hard to prove you were shamefully wrong declaring Nelson Mandela dead when he wasn't. And, by the way, you have proven nothing in this disagreement. I have an opinion, and the fact that it is not a flattering one of you, doesn't mean I have to write a brief to prove anything. In my opinion, you're consistently and blatantly biased, and frequently objectively wrong.
Nice try. Despite your imperial declarations, it is not incumbent on me to prove anything, although it wouldn't be hard to prove you were shamefully wrong declaring Nelson Mandela dead when he wasn't. And, by the way, you have proven nothing in this disagreement. I have an opinion, and the fact that it is not a flattering one of you, doesn't mean I have to write a brief to prove anything. In my opinion, you're consistently and blatantly biased, and frequently objectively wrong.
I quoted a source which was incorrect...funny though how I dont remember you posting here back when that happened..but I do recall two others who were SUPER fast to attack when the source I used ended up being wrong. Awesome example...try to dirty me based on a bad news source as to prove your point..that is EXACTLY what I have been saying and you fall into the same trap yourself.
You make a claim which is your right to do so, but when someone who you are trying to harm asks you for PROOF of your claim, you either back it up or back down...or in your case pull up some misquoted news source to try and attack the poster again.
I am not bothered by your opinion, you have no idea what goes on here and what the reality is..you are biased as you are claiming I am, yet I am happy to debate and prove actual facts and realities..you as in the direct post above rely on attacking the poster and being even MORE biased than you claim I am.
So please...either prove your point with facts or back down, or do what you will as to attack ME rather than address the issue.
I might suggest you think twice about attacking when you lack any substance to support your claim.
Nice try. Despite your imperial declarations, it is not incumbent on me to prove anything, although it wouldn't be hard to prove you were shamefully wrong declaring Nelson Mandela dead when he wasn't. And, by the way, you have proven nothing in this disagreement. I have an opinion, and the fact that it is not a flattering one of you, doesn't mean I have to write a brief to prove anything. In my opinion, you're consistently and blatantly biased, and frequently objectively wrong.
I quoted a source which was incorrect...funny though how I dont remember you posting here back when that happened..but I do recall two others who were SUPER fast to attack when the source I used ended up being wrong. Awesome example...try to dirty me based on a bad news source as to prove your point..that is EXACTLY what I have been saying and you fall into the same trap yourself.
You make a claim which is your right to do so, but when someone who you are trying to harm asks you for PROOF of your claim, you either back it up or back down...or in your case pull up some misquoted news source to try and attack the poster again.
I am not bothered by your opinion, you have no idea what goes on here and what the reality is..you are biased as you are claiming I am, yet I am happy to debate and prove actual facts and realities..you as in the direct post above rely on attacking the poster and being even MORE biased than you claim I am.
So please...either prove your point with facts or back down, or do what you will as to attack ME rather than address the issue.
I might suggest you think twice about attacking when you lack any substance to support your claim.
I quoted a source which was incorrect...funny though how I dont remember you posting here back when that happened..but I do recall two others who were SUPER fast to attack when the source I used ended up being wrong. Awesome example...try to dirty me based on a bad news source as to prove your point..that is EXACTLY what I have been saying and you fall into the same trap yourself.
You make a claim which is your right to do so, but when someone who you are trying to harm asks you for PROOF of your claim, you either back it up or back down...or in your case pull up some misquoted news source to try and attack the poster again.
I am not bothered by your opinion, you have no idea what goes on here and what the reality is..you are biased as you are claiming I am, yet I am happy to debate and prove actual facts and realities..you as in the direct post above rely on attacking the poster and being even MORE biased than you claim I am.
So please...either prove your point with facts or back down, or do what you will as to attack ME rather than address the issue.
I might suggest you think twice about attacking when you lack any substance to support your claim.
Precisely what SarasotaSlim stated---the victim strategy. Someone expresses an opinion, and I'm not alone in that opinion----and, woe is me, you're a victim. You, the moderator, are free to criticize and threaten people with boxing, but when someone expresses an opinion you don't like-----bang---you're a victim. You're being "attacked"; "dirtied up"; "harmed"; or the victim of the "bad mods card", which I assume is some new attempt to create a variation of the race card. Tiresome.
I quoted a source which was incorrect...funny though how I dont remember you posting here back when that happened..but I do recall two others who were SUPER fast to attack when the source I used ended up being wrong. Awesome example...try to dirty me based on a bad news source as to prove your point..that is EXACTLY what I have been saying and you fall into the same trap yourself.
You make a claim which is your right to do so, but when someone who you are trying to harm asks you for PROOF of your claim, you either back it up or back down...or in your case pull up some misquoted news source to try and attack the poster again.
I am not bothered by your opinion, you have no idea what goes on here and what the reality is..you are biased as you are claiming I am, yet I am happy to debate and prove actual facts and realities..you as in the direct post above rely on attacking the poster and being even MORE biased than you claim I am.
So please...either prove your point with facts or back down, or do what you will as to attack ME rather than address the issue.
I might suggest you think twice about attacking when you lack any substance to support your claim.
Precisely what SarasotaSlim stated---the victim strategy. Someone expresses an opinion, and I'm not alone in that opinion----and, woe is me, you're a victim. You, the moderator, are free to criticize and threaten people with boxing, but when someone expresses an opinion you don't like-----bang---you're a victim. You're being "attacked"; "dirtied up"; "harmed"; or the victim of the "bad mods card", which I assume is some new attempt to create a variation of the race card. Tiresome.
Precisely what SarasotaSlim stated---the victim strategy. Someone expresses an opinion, and I'm not alone in that opinion----and, woe is me, you're a victim. You, the moderator, are free to criticize and threaten people with boxing, but when someone expresses an opinion you don't like-----bang---you're a victim. You're being "attacked"; "dirtied up"; "harmed"; or the victim of the "bad mods card", which I assume is some new attempt to create a variation of the race card. Tiresome.
So where is the proof of yet again another claim?
Is me bringing up actual examples of what I am claiming acting like a victim?
This whole thing started from the same group making personal remarks about Michael Moore and me saying it is quite lame to attack the person rather than address the issue, then the usual group comes out and tries to take shots at me and pulling the mean moderator card out as always...and you come out and follow tail doing the same thing.
Then I come and say prove your claim with facts and real information, then you pull the mean moderator and take a jab at me about a misquote from a media source I referenced.
So how exactly am I being a mean moderator or claiming victim exactly?
I invited you and SS (who I have invited regularly as he pulls this same scheme now and then) to PROVE your point, where I am happy to prove my point and I did above...I said I could find MANY MORE examples of your group making personal attacks and insults when you dislike something, and the history of moronic F5-ing threads of people your group does not like...I said I can do that easily and I asked for you to do the same since it was YOUR claim...and you can show me proof of how I am a mean moderator and back up your erroneous claim...or you can back down, or you can make more insults and the like.
I have not seen any proof, yet for any claim I make I can do so...where does that leave you exactly??
Precisely what SarasotaSlim stated---the victim strategy. Someone expresses an opinion, and I'm not alone in that opinion----and, woe is me, you're a victim. You, the moderator, are free to criticize and threaten people with boxing, but when someone expresses an opinion you don't like-----bang---you're a victim. You're being "attacked"; "dirtied up"; "harmed"; or the victim of the "bad mods card", which I assume is some new attempt to create a variation of the race card. Tiresome.
So where is the proof of yet again another claim?
Is me bringing up actual examples of what I am claiming acting like a victim?
This whole thing started from the same group making personal remarks about Michael Moore and me saying it is quite lame to attack the person rather than address the issue, then the usual group comes out and tries to take shots at me and pulling the mean moderator card out as always...and you come out and follow tail doing the same thing.
Then I come and say prove your claim with facts and real information, then you pull the mean moderator and take a jab at me about a misquote from a media source I referenced.
So how exactly am I being a mean moderator or claiming victim exactly?
I invited you and SS (who I have invited regularly as he pulls this same scheme now and then) to PROVE your point, where I am happy to prove my point and I did above...I said I could find MANY MORE examples of your group making personal attacks and insults when you dislike something, and the history of moronic F5-ing threads of people your group does not like...I said I can do that easily and I asked for you to do the same since it was YOUR claim...and you can show me proof of how I am a mean moderator and back up your erroneous claim...or you can back down, or you can make more insults and the like.
I have not seen any proof, yet for any claim I make I can do so...where does that leave you exactly??
Is me bringing up actual examples of what I am claiming acting like a victim?
This whole thing started from the same group making personal remarks about Michael Moore and me saying it is quite lame to attack the person rather than address the issue, then the usual group comes out and tries to take shots at me and pulling the mean moderator card out as always...and you come out and follow tail doing the same thing.
Then I come and say prove your claim with facts and real information, then you pull the mean moderator and take a jab at me about a misquote from a media source I referenced.
So how exactly am I being a mean moderator or claiming victim exactly?
I invited you and SS (who I have invited regularly as he pulls this same scheme now and then) to PROVE your point, where I am happy to prove my point and I did above...I said I could find MANY MORE examples of your group making personal attacks and insults when you dislike something, and the history of moronic F5-ing threads of people your group does not like...I said I can do that easily and I asked for you to do the same since it was YOUR claim...and you can show me proof of how I am a mean moderator and back up your erroneous claim...or you can back down, or you can make more insults and the like.
I have not seen any proof, yet for any claim I make I can do so...where does that leave you exactly??
Is me bringing up actual examples of what I am claiming acting like a victim?
This whole thing started from the same group making personal remarks about Michael Moore and me saying it is quite lame to attack the person rather than address the issue, then the usual group comes out and tries to take shots at me and pulling the mean moderator card out as always...and you come out and follow tail doing the same thing.
Then I come and say prove your claim with facts and real information, then you pull the mean moderator and take a jab at me about a misquote from a media source I referenced.
So how exactly am I being a mean moderator or claiming victim exactly?
I invited you and SS (who I have invited regularly as he pulls this same scheme now and then) to PROVE your point, where I am happy to prove my point and I did above...I said I could find MANY MORE examples of your group making personal attacks and insults when you dislike something, and the history of moronic F5-ing threads of people your group does not like...I said I can do that easily and I asked for you to do the same since it was YOUR claim...and you can show me proof of how I am a mean moderator and back up your erroneous claim...or you can back down, or you can make more insults and the like.
I have not seen any proof, yet for any claim I make I can do so...where does that leave you exactly??
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