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So cashin, you think that Trayvons father was lying when he told the investigator that voice didn't belong to his son?

You don't find it a bit interesting that he changes his story only after considering the ramifications if the voice is not Trayvons?

Where is your logic and common sense?

The 13 year old boy witnessed the person on the bottom screaming for help and getting his behind handed to him. The only real way the smaller, younger Trayvon was going to get the upper hand on the bigger stronger Zimmerman is with the element of suprize as in a sucker punch to the nose...stunning and blinding him with blood it would then be easy to take him to the ground and smack his head into the sidewalk. Police report also spoke very clearly of grass on wet jacket...suggesting that he had been on the bottom...duh...it was raining.

The only reason Mary Cutcher said what she said is because she, like you couldn't imagine or comprehend the younger guy whipping the older, bigger guys behind. She heard the screaming too yet when asked, insisted it was that of a young boy. Zimmermans voice is not deep and probably less than Trayvons. Even higher when screaming.

Its very clear to me that you and money are not looking at this objectively based on wording you both use.

And....Trayvons girlfriend can only state...duh...what she has already said. They both asked each other a question and then she heard the scuffle. What in the hell else are you expecting her to be able to say being that the phone call was dropped at that point?

Please list in order the evidence you are counting on to back up your theory?

On the voice, I'll trust the science corroborated by at least 2 expert sources.

How are you going to talk science with a poster known for shutting down and deflecting discussions when his crazy perceptions concerning science are a topic of discussion?

How are you going to talk science with a poster known for shutting down and deflecting discussions when his crazy perceptions concerning science are a topic of discussion?

You're graspin at straws now, lol. Did you ever consider that Z (who's much heavier & looks stronger) rolled him over & while on top with his gun out or not, that's when Martin started to yell for help & then Z shot him? Sounds very plausible to me...Z snapped cuz of being punched & gotten the better of initially after provoking it to start with. Done with this for now - looks like they expect him to be charged with the hiring of the new lawyer. We'll see how it goes -

Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

This says everything we need to know about you. A black kid in a white neighborhood, wearing a hoodie, who commited pety theft, that smoked pot and liked rap music deserved it and should bow to his masters. One less black kid on the streets is a good thing in their eyes.

Cashin this is about race just like I said from the beginning and nothing more. Furtive subtle innuendo bigoted comments like that are the exact reason I despise the republican party of today. I can't help but get emotinal since it's a kid who was killed for NO reason.

dl36 – person shows he had hatred in his blood and tells you that he picked on martin because of his race.

Did your mall cop buddy tell you that burglary amounts to petty theft? If he is willing to break into peoples houses, what then would he do if he broke into a house that is occupied at the time?

I didn't say he was a hoodlum for his hoodie, I judged his true charactor like Dr. King would want me to do. We don't know how much womens jewelery he had in his backpack.

You are not a very good detective because there is NOTHING to even say that is a white neighborhood. The family of the 13 year old boy walking his dog is not white. Trayvons Father's fiancee is not white. George Zimmerman not white.

I can see why you got this thing ALL wrong...you aren't a good detective at all.

Did your mall cop buddy tell you to ignore that he possibly threw down on a bus driver?

Pumkin, burglary in Florida is a felony. FYI.

I never claimed to work construction you idiot. Melting and casting aluminum isn't even close to construction. The fact that you can't seperate the two speaks volumes.

In the police academy I studied some criminal law.

Interesting that you never had the stones to tell us what you do. Is that perhaps because you are embarrassed that you rip movie tickets in half at Cinemark theaters?

Interesting that you chose to spend 1/5 your monthly income on wrestlemania once every two months.

I wonder how many conservatives purchase wrestlemania compared to liberals.

Zimmerman is no doubt somewhat of a coward. Usually the ones how would hit a woman are the ones who are afraid of a confrontation with a more equal combatant. Hence, my belief that he wouldn't have started a fight with Trayvon.

And we don't know how much jewelery that Trayvon burgled, so we don't know if a cop would have simply questioned him or gone further.

You ignore that he may have thrown down on a bus driver. Why.

Attacking my work history proves nothing, except that you can't debate the merits of the case in question.

He probably had not scared or provoked anyone the way he did Trayvon that nite & gotten into a fight which caused him to snap & kill him. Another plausible scenario is the after exchanging accusatory/angry words & Martin telling him he was going home (to his dad's fiance's house), Z pulled his gun on him to force him to wait for the cops being convinced he was up to no good...

Not reaching at all except it is very doubtful Martin would have popped him at gunpoint. The girlfriend isn't sure what she heard after the last words - just some rustling noises & the line went dead. But unless she's lying, her account of the call totally disputes Z's statement & shows he's lying. His story just doesn't make sense & I'm sure

Though Z may well have been racist to a degree, I don't see this being a race/hate crime nearly as much as just a self-important, control freak of some type playing cop & looking for approval, who pursued & instigated a fight with an innocent unarmed kid, got more than he bargained for, then snapped & committed manslaughter. Alot of his neighbors probably think he's a bit "off" as well -