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Posted: 3/21/2012 8:34:26 AM

http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/15/news/economy/veterans-jobs/index.htm

 

Need I say more ?

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Posted: 3/21/2012 8:54:58 AM
Many bills have been passed recently to help the veterans.
Who do you feel is more responsible, the republican house, the democrat senate, or the President signing the bill?
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Posted: 3/21/2012 9:58:01 AM
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Originally Posted by J_Galt:

Many bills have been passed recently to help the veterans.
Who do you feel is more responsible, the republican house, the democrat senate, or the President signing the bill?

I guess you didn't read the link

There are other efforts in the works. President Obama has proposed the Veterans Job Corps initiative, which calls for $1 billion to hire 20,000 vets over the next five years to work in jobs related to environmental protection and maintaining roads and levees.

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Posted: 3/21/2012 10:37:20 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by don juan:

I guess you didn't read the link

There are other efforts in the works. President Obama has proposed the Veterans Job Corps initiative, which calls for $1 billion to hire 20,000 vets over the next five years to work in jobs related to environmental protection and maintaining roads and levees.


Sounds like a very good program, one that benefits veterans and is related to environmental conservation and general infrastructure. I believe the Republicans are currently focused on destroying maternal health programs and safeguards, but if they have similar plans they should be promoting it because all we hear out of them is the typical social conservative nonsense about abortion etc. All while there are real issues that need to be taken care of. Veterans face many difficult issues and they deserve much, much better. This seems like a good step.

Well done Mr. Obama. 
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Posted: 3/21/2012 10:40:53 AM

Wait a minute!  I thought when you go for a job and there's this slogan on the application:  "We are an equal opportunity employer".

By offering comanies money to hire veterans, is that making it "EQUAL"?

ACLU, where are you?

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Posted: 3/21/2012 11:08:24 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by promark12:

Wait a minute!  I thought when you go for a job and there's this slogan on the application:  "We are an equal opportunity employer".

By offering comanies money to hire veterans, is that making it "EQUAL"?

ACLU, where are you?






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Posted: 3/21/2012 12:29:16 PM

Hey, they have an equal opportunity to serve their country, where are they ?  Go to the back of the line dude.

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President Obama takes care of veterans with........... "Obama Money" ..
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Posted: 3/21/2012 12:46:22 PM

I forgot, Don won the "POTY" award.

YES SIR, DON!

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Posted: 3/21/2012 12:57:44 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by promark12:

Wait a minute!  I thought when you go for a job and there's this slogan on the application:  "We are an equal opportunity employer".

By offering comanies money to hire veterans, is that making it "EQUAL"?

ACLU, where are you?



Hey don't rain on my parade! I need a job soon. 

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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:09:25 PM

K-train, when you go out and defend my freedoms, you are my hero.  But when you stand in the line to get a job with your $2,000 employment incentive, YOU ARE MY ENEMY.

But thanks for serving

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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:15:42 PM

Fascinating.

So Vets can place themselves at a career disadvantage by risking their lives and serving this country, foregoing education or employment experience, yet there is opposition to providing incentives for businesses to hire them?

I guess it isn't fascinating. Just sad.

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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:21:13 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by djbrow:

Fascinating.

So Vets can place themselves at a career disadvantage by risking their lives and serving this country, foregoing education or employment experience, yet there is opposition to providing incentives for businesses to hire them?

I guess it isn't fascinating. Just sad.



speaking the truth huh?
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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:23:24 PM

DJ, i actually don't have a problem with the incentives.  I do have a problem with "EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER"

How many flat-chested chicks get hired at HOOTERS?

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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:25:06 PM
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" in the works "
that means it hasn't happened yet.

The thread title uses the phrase
" takes care of "
which to me would indicate an action already taken.

Now as far as debating your rebuttal point
He is looking to fund that program, which I believe sounds like a good program, with tax payers money.

so won't the taxpayers be taking care of veterans
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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:25:06 PM

And K-train, if you get hired at Hooters instead of Veronica, then I will protest!

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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:27:09 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by promark12:

K-train, when you go out and defend my freedoms, you are my hero.  But when you stand in the line to get a job with your $2,000 employment incentive, YOU ARE MY ENEMY.

But thanks for serving


I feel you on that one. 

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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:28:24 PM
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the flat chested chicks get hired at the pancake house
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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:28:33 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by promark12:

And K-train, if you get hired at Hooters instead of Veronica, then I will protest!


What if I was a cook? I wouldn't mind working with Hooters waitresses and NOT having to serve a bunch of drunk, horny dudes with dreams of banging the service staff. 
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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:28:59 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by J_Galt:

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the flat chested chicks get hired at the pancake house

These are the chicks that Tiger Woods was banging. 
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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:29:48 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by promark12:

DJ, i actually don't have a problem with the incentives.  I do have a problem with "EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER"

How many flat-chested chicks get hired at HOOTERS?

It still is equal opportunity employer. The employer has an INCENTIVE not a MANDATE to hire Vets.

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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:30:57 PM
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Originally Posted by J_Galt:

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Now as far as debating your rebuttal point
He is looking to fund that program, which I believe sounds like a good program, with tax payers money.

so won't the taxpayers be taking care of veterans

The government raises revenue by taxes. In the end, the taxpayers are funding all expenditures.

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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:33:37 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by djbrow:

Fascinating.

So Vets can place themselves at a career disadvantage by risking their lives and serving this country, foregoing education or employment experience, yet there is opposition to providing incentives for businesses to hire them?

I guess it isn't fascinating. Just sad.


Another career disadvantage would be getting out and not wanting to go into the comparable civilian sector career field. That is my current dilemma right now. 
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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:33:50 PM

Um, if I was in a position to hire and candidate A and candidate B were both equally qualified to do the job, but candidate B comes with incentives, guess who I'm hiring?

Im human, I admit I'd hire candidate B.  But if this was the case, then why not be fair and admit that there's a preference to hiring veterans?  I don't think those of us who are not veterans would object and we'd appreciate the truth.

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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:50:58 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by promark12:

Um, if I was in a position to hire and candidate A and candidate B were both equally qualified to do the job, but candidate B comes with incentives, guess who I'm hiring?

Im human, I admit I'd hire candidate B.  But if this was the case, then why not be fair and admit that there's a preference to hiring veterans?  I don't think those of us who are not veterans would object and we'd appreciate the truth.

How is that different from the current proposal to provide an incentive?

As an aside, there are no two candidates perfectly alike, thus there is always an incentive to hire one over the other based on the preference(s) of the employer.

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