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#1 Posted: 9/9/2012 3:24:32 AM
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Texas
[1-1 ATS]
Home:
Mississippi
[2-0 ATS]
Game Time:
9:15 PM
Stadium: Vaught-Hemingway Stadium
Recent Meetings:
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Team Leaders:
Texas:
Passing:
David Ash
(377)
Rushing:
Joe Bergeron
(159)
Receiving:
Jaxon Shipley
(75)
Mississippi:
Passing:
Bo Wallace
(438)
Rushing:
Bo Wallace
(135)
Receiving:
Donte Moncrief
(176)
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#2 Posted: 9/11/2012 4:12:09 AM statement game for Mack Brown and Co...talent differential huge advantage for Texas, motivation even, coaching- Texas...I will take my horns this week on the road at Ole Miss...
Texas 28
Ole Miss 7
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#3 Posted: 9/11/2012 11:41:53 AM |
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#4 Posted: 9/11/2012 3:03:57 PM
To understand how Texas defends a running QB in a more identifiable attack, check the Kansas St. game of 2011. Klein for KSU is a beast and Texas murdered the guy all night. The Horns defense is really not much different from 2011 in terms of personnel and ability. New additions are just as capable, and several holdovers are even better with more experience.
Ole Miss seems to be very vulnerable against the pass so far this season and the question is will Texas be able to capitalize. Not sure as Ash is hot and cold, and not shown consistency to me so far when throwing past 10 to 15 yards. Texas will be able to run at some point but won't dominate with it here. The key will be hitting the passes to capitalize off the extra run attention given by the Rebels.
While Ole Miss will be elevated in motivation, so will Texas, as both know this is their first real test of wills. From watching Texas closely for many years, it was very easy to tell they were working on things to test the offense much moreso than playing full tilt with a specific gameplan designed solely to win the game at hand. That will change this week as they know there is no room to screw around.
I do see Texas winning as you will see a very focused Texas team, one that is better as a whole than a fully focused Ole Miss team. That being said, 10.5 points may be too much to surrender to the home team in an early game of this caliber. I would probably cease backing Texas at a TD. I also wouldn't feel comfortable backing Ole Miss at the current line unless I HAD to choose.
The type of talent Texas brings could unleash in a big way if playing at full motivation and on all cylinders. Best play is probably to lay off and see what happens this week to better understand where these teams are against true adversity. IMO, the Texas defense will be too stout to expect solid success by Ole Miss. At the same time, Ash may be too inconsistent to take advantage when the big opportunities arise. |
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#5 Posted: 9/11/2012 4:23:41 PM |
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#6 Posted: 9/12/2012 12:50:51 AM Man o Man.. The Grove is going to be hitting!!! This game should resemble the Florida crowd when Eli was there... Everyone is really rallying around this game to set the tone for the season.. Freeze is really building a foundation for years to come and his staff seems to have the conform or leave mentality.. however, that being said, it appears the team is buying in and that makes for one optimistic future..
In my humble overview of this game, I feel it will come down to Ole Miss' offense v the Texas D.. Will Wallace step up? Will the Longhorn D shut them down. One side note, the SEC suspended the Rebels starting DB Elston for the Texas game because of a dirty hit during the UTEP game
.. I feel as though both teams have the ability to trade blows throughout the game with the end result coming down to a final possession... I'd play the Rebs money line if they have it, but I'll take 10 any day...
Hell yea, I may be drinking the Kool-Aid aid.. but its flavored with the same stuff that has been being keeping oxford afloat for decades.. whiskey and optimism... and beautfiul women.. as always goodluck and Hotty Toddy 
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#7 Posted: 9/13/2012 5:21:44 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by echelon1: Both teams take a big step up in talent. For Ole Miss it will be a very substantial adjustment for their offense. The leading rusher being the QB is not a good sign. Make no mistake, this Texas defense will shut down the run. NM ran a triple-option and the ground success mostly came from being vastly unfamiliar with defending such an attack, and missed assignments.
To understand how Texas defends a running QB in a more identifiable attack, check the Kansas St. game of 2011. Klein for KSU is a beast and Texas murdered the guy all night. The Horns defense is really not much different from 2011 in terms of personnel and ability. New additions are just as capable, and several holdovers are even better with more experience.
Ole Miss seems to be very vulnerable against the pass so far this season and the question is will Texas be able to capitalize. Not sure as Ash is hot and cold, and not shown consistency to me so far when throwing past 10 to 15 yards. Texas will be able to run at some point but won't dominate with it here. The key will be hitting the passes to capitalize off the extra run attention given by the Rebels.
While Ole Miss will be elevated in motivation, so will Texas, as both know this is their first real test of wills. From watching Texas closely for many years, it was very easy to tell they were working on things to test the offense much moreso than playing full tilt with a specific gameplan designed solely to win the game at hand. That will change this week as they know there is no room to screw around.
I do see Texas winning as you will see a very focused Texas team, one that is better as a whole than a fully focused Ole Miss team. That being said, 10.5 points may be too much to surrender to the home team in an early game of this caliber. I would probably cease backing Texas at a TD. I also wouldn't feel comfortable backing Ole Miss at the current line unless I HAD to choose.
The type of talent Texas brings could unleash in a big way if playing at full motivation and on all cylinders. Best play is probably to lay off and see what happens this week to better understand where these teams are against true adversity. IMO, the Texas defense will be too stout to expect solid success by Ole Miss. At the same time, Ash may be too inconsistent to take advantage when the big opportunities arise.
Do you know if they're missing any big pieces against the run D? I think you're over rating their run D: They're currently 57th in the nation against the run.
The rebels will stop the run: ranked 17th in the nation.
Ole miss: pass off (36th), rush off (9th), pass D (74th) rush D (15th)
Texas: pass off (62nd), rush off (74th), pass D (15th) rush D (57th)
My early prediction: Ole miss +9.5
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#8 Posted: 9/13/2012 1:06:41 PM Texas is usually overrated based on strong recruiting and early season mismatches but this Old Miss team isn't your usual SEC caliber defense. I think Texas wins as Old Miss' offense hasn't played against anyone with talent and depth yet, but the line seems to close for me to tangle with. There are better bets out there this week.
One thing for sure, with the talent both schools have in beautiful, classy ladies, the tailgating will exceed the football game in excitement. No play for me on this one, GL to all the bettors. |
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#9 Posted: 9/13/2012 4:33:45 PM Should be a great matchup on both sides of the ball. I like the over in this one. |
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#10 Posted: 9/13/2012 11:43:41 PM am a texas alum and follow them pretty religiously... if texas does not turn the ball over they will win by 20+ pts. the d is amongst the best in the nation and will keep ole miss in check offensively all night. UT's passing game is their biggest flaw, but the running game has finally started coming along so it will be a heavy dose of bergeron and brown all game with Ash doing some running himself. I expect a well managed game with a heavy emphasis on running the ball and a bunch of short passes to minimize the mistakes for Ash.
As a homer, i hope this is a breakout game for the offense, but realistically i think this ends up something like 31-7 or 31-14 in favor of texas. |
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#11 Posted: 9/14/2012 1:57:21 PM Texas covers the -10 and wins big!  |
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#12 Posted: 9/14/2012 11:18:46 PM Over 51
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#13 Posted: 9/15/2012 1:50:50 AM LONGHORNS -10
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#15 Posted: 9/15/2012 9:34:55 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by pcz:
Do you know if they're missing any big pieces against the run D? I think you're over rating their run D: They're currently 57th in the nation against the run.
The rebels will stop the run: ranked 17th in the nation.
Ole miss: pass off (36th), rush off (9th), pass D (74th) rush D (15th)
Texas: pass off (62nd), rush off (74th), pass D (15th) rush D (57th)
My early prediction: Ole miss +9.5
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#16 Posted: 9/15/2012 10:18:14 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by pcz:
Do you know if they're missing any big pieces against the run D? I think you're over rating their run D: They're currently 57th in the nation against the run.
The rebels will stop the run: ranked 17th in the nation.
Ole miss: pass off (36th), rush off (9th), pass D (74th) rush D (15th)
Texas: pass off (62nd), rush off (74th), pass D (15th) rush D (57th)
My early prediction: Ole miss +9.5
Texas is actually much stronger and deeper across the front 4. The LB is were the turnover took place, but 2 of the 3 have extensive playing time, and all 3 are very capable. The secondary returns 3 starters and one new starter with experience. Texas isn't missing any pieces on the run defense to be top 10.
Trust me on this, Wyoming is a better team then New Mexico, and the Cowboys ran 30 times for 69 yards...2.3 avg. That's run stuffing. Last week, New Mexico brought in the triple option and it's just not something Texas is used to seeing. So the first half there were missed assignments and some 10-20 yard gains early. That all got straightened out in late second quarter and second half, when Texas got used to defensing the triple option. It's a very tricky offense to hold down if unfamiliar. As was said many times during the game, you just can't simulate the speed of it in practice until you play live against it and get used to it. And they did and shut it down once getting a feel.
I will tell you right now, this Texas defense is a top 10 caliber run defense and top 15 pass defense. I assure you the rankings being used off two games this year are nothing like they will be in total this year. It was one rare offense that gave it a little trouble, but let's not forget it still was only to the tune of 206 yards. While that sounds somewhat bad, it was also off 47 carries and you have to realize NM had 39 total yards passing. Not to mention they pitched a shutout in that game. Stats need to be analyzed in the context they happen. Teams that play a New Mexico, Air Force, Georgia Tech, etc early are gonna have skewed rushing defense numbers due to the option offense.
It's the Horns offense that still has questions. The o-line and QB still seem inconsistent to me. Which is why 10.5 is high for me. But I assure you, the Ole Miss offense is heading towards a very stout and complete defense. They won't break 20, no doubt. |
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#17 Posted: 9/15/2012 4:19:33 PM EM-AYE-ES-ES-AYE-ES-ES-AYE-PEE-PEE-AYE !! |
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#22 Posted: 9/15/2012 7:46:01 PM [Originally Posted by pcz:
Do you know if they're missing any big pieces against the run D? I think you're over rating their run D: They're currently 57th in the nation against the run.
The rebels will stop the run: ranked 17th in the nation.
Ole miss: pass off (36th), rush off (9th), pass D (74th) rush D (15th)
Texas: pass off (62nd), rush off (74th), pass D (15th) rush D (57th)
My early prediction: Ole miss +9.5]
Are you seriously looking at offensive and defensive rankings 2 games into the season???? With such a small sample and such a large diversity in the types of teams everyone plays in the first few weeks of the season... looking at these rankings is an absolute joke. |
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#23 Posted: 9/15/2012 8:41:39 PM OVER 26
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#25 Posted: 9/16/2012 1:04:16 AM congrats Texas backers!
the offense definitely opened it up in this one. I'm sure Mack is going to whoop some behind this next week in reference to the huge plays that were given up in special teams and defense. As a whole though, pretty impressive. |
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