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#26 Posted: 11/18/2011 12:38:01 PM darn all you darn-wads!
Most of you can't write worth garbage, anyway!
darn YOU!
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#27 Posted: 11/18/2011 12:40:12 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Mozart:
darn all you darn-wads!
Most of you can't write worth garbage, anyway!
darn YOU!
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#28 Posted: 11/18/2011 12:40:20 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Mozart:
darn all you darn-wads!
Most of you can't write worth garbage, anyway!
darn YOU!
Cool guy, must be an editor for a newspaper
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#29 Posted: 11/18/2011 12:54:09 PM neil any thoughts on norfolk +15 for the game. i thing they can hang with drexel. ur input would be a value. thanks. |
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#30 Posted: 11/18/2011 1:25:58 PM Neil your projected spreads that you posted yesterday are right on the money lol
Your post:
Here are tommorow’s projected’s; obviously some of the tournament games are missing:
+8 Ball State -8 Indiana State +15 Delaware -15 Villanova +6 Cal Riverside -6 Youngstown State -1 Arkansas LR +1 Eastern Michigan +8 St. Bonaventure -8 Cleveland State +16 Miami OH -16 Xavier +11 Houston -11 Arkansas -6 New Mexico +6 Arizona State -15 Stanford +15 UC Davis +19 Davidson -19 Duke
That is amazing!! If I ever own a casino in Vegas can I hire you to be the lines maker? :) |
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#31 Posted: 11/18/2011 1:30:59 PM Any info on the Davidson Duke game NRopp?
Hey Mozart Come and ROCK ME AMADEUS |
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#32 Posted: 11/18/2011 1:36:50 PM I mean mozart wasn't wrong saying the guy should use paragraphs. It is ridiculous to have one huge paragraph..And im on Purdue anyways so I didn't read it
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#33 Posted: 11/18/2011 1:45:14 PM gl today
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#34 Posted: 11/18/2011 2:07:29 PM I did an if/then with Temple and the under... hopefully Micheal can stay on the court and make an impact.
And seriously, is Purdue about to have yet another 40+ percent trey day? This is gettin ridiculous. They need to move the line back.
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#35 Posted: 11/18/2011 2:16:03 PM BOL N ..Missed the plays but still for ya...
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#36 Posted: 11/18/2011 2:17:07 PM Night Notes: I have no feel for Villanova yet, and the same can be said for Delaware. About the only thing I dislike about UC Riverside walking into Youngstown State and stealing a win is the travel to get to Ohio. They match up eerily well with this Youngstown State. Youngstown State who is a team this year who is going to push the pace and make every game into an up and down track meet and they have acknowledged that on more than one occasion. The problem? They don’t really have the type of players to do it, and combine that with a lack of depth and this is a cover up. This team is running b/c it needs to get a quantity of shots rather than quality. Sure, the offensive numbers will look good at some point, and the guards have shown flashes of talent, but this system is quantity over quality this year. They need to attempt a high # of shots to have a chance, and Slocum knows it. One glaring weakness when playing this style of basketball also shows up on the defensive side of things. If the other team is attempting the same high # of shots, then you are going to have to stop them at some point and I’m not sure that’s going to be the case. They return nearly the same team as last year, and their strength is on the inside. The problem with this style is that the interior offense usually comes off an offensive rebound from a dumb shot from a guard b/c the guards will force a bit too much. Which leads me into this matchup tonight. If they can’t run and get the max shot attempts, they’re going to struggle. It showed last season as they struggled immensely to put the ball in the hoop against slower paced teams, and it carried over to their first game this year with Samford where they trailed until late. Cal Riverside brings in the exact style of play that Youngstown State doesn’t want to see. Slow it down, move the ball, wait for Youngstown to get out of position defensively, and take advantage. UC Riverside brings back pretty much their entire lineup, including a possible second-best backcourt in the Big West (LBSU better definitely). Having an experienced PG who can not only score, but dish the ball in Nitoto will be key as he should be able to find the gaping holes in this Youngstown State defense. Youngstown really has nobody to guard Martin on the perimeter as well, so I think he will get 20+ and they’re generally in good shape when he does that. Just a few of constants I like in this matchup, and I’ll be backing the team that is taking the better shots with the more sound offensive style of play. Youngstown State has a bit of revenge as they went to Riverside last year and lost, but again, they lost b/c they hate this slow game play. There is a reason to believe that we see a slight letdown from Youngstown as well. In the opener, they went on the road an ended a 23 game road losing streak, then they followed that up playing a D-II school at home where they set the school record for most three pointers in a single game. Once you start shooting those three’s and do something like that when you generally aren’t that talented to do so, you become complacent, and you’ll rely on those tendencies. I’ll take my chances, but again, I hate the travel. I’m getting a really experienced squad in a nice situation. Youngstown has Penn State on deck as well. Arkansas LR and Eastern Michigan should be a snooze-fest. I like St. Bonaventure, just a bit confused why they’re playing so slow when they have talent. I need to see a bit more. This is probably not a good spot for Miami OH coming off a tough physical encounter with rival Dayton a few nights ago in OT. They go into Xavier, who has revenge from last year’s loss at Miami OH. Some value in the under I believe. Last year’s game was lined at 125, and it went over thanks to a totally different style of play from Xavier in the 2H as they tried to battle back into the game. The 1H totaled 47 points. After the switch in style, the 2H totaled 92. With Miami OH coming off the OT, and Xavier with revenge, I doubt we see a half of 92 again. No feel on Houston or Arkansas this early in the season. Arizona State with slight revenge and New Mexico coming off an awful loss. No interest in Stanford. I can’t see myself venturing into the Paradise Jam all that often, the night games aren’t all that appealing. That beautiful offensive display from Maryland in yesterday’s 42 point victory was due in large part of the Alabama defense, so that gives us an ounce of value here. Turgeon wants to go up and down as much as possible, and while he doesn’t have all that great of talent, increasing the # of possessions will increase the score. I have seen nothing from Colorado or Boyle in the last year and a half that makes me believe he’ll slow it down either. This one should get into the 70’s and neither defense is worth much in the grand scheme of things. Really just basing this play on hope for a slightly less defensive effort after a back-to-backers and two offenses that will get out and go. I’m playing Alabama keeping everything in mind I wrote about Wichita in yesterday’s thread and I get a nice little postseason revenge angle to go along with it. Seton Hall & St. Joseph’s should be a pretty good ballgame defensively. Unlike VCU, St. Joe’s brings some nice offensive firepower in the backcourt, and wouldn’t be surprised to see them win this one. Georgia Tech gets Rice Jr back today right? One would think that would be enough offense to be enough to beat VCU. Tough to say, might take a bit to gel and get back into things. I like Arizona, but they showed some weaknesses last night, primarily the inside game and the ability to depend on the three-ball. I think they’re offense is enough to win this thing, but they’ll have to keep shooting it as well as they have. Will be a really nice story for the Parrom kid if they can get the win. The little tournament going on in Lafayette, LA is awful; no interest. We’ll know a lot more about Akron by the end of the weekend. Go to Valpo tonight, and get Duquesne on a neutral tomorrow. I give Akron the value here, but tough to win at Valpo. Hunch in the Davidson/Duke game is an under, but not going to take a chance with those offenses. Projected’s for the weekend coming shortly.
2* UC Riverside +7 1* Maryland/Colorado Over 140 1* Alabama ML -130 Leans: (Miami/Xavier Under 133.5)
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#37 Posted: 11/18/2011 2:22:58 PM Good luck today, bud.

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#38 Posted: 11/18/2011 2:26:12 PM What do you think about St Johns vs A&M?
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#39 Posted: 11/18/2011 2:29:14 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by TheMattadore978:
haha mozart your a chump
hey nropp, lot of love for lehigh on covers today, whats your take on this game?
Slow game, I give Bill & Mary slight edge. Fast game, I give Lehigh big edge. Couldn't decipher which way it would go. |
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#40 Posted: 11/18/2011 2:30:23 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by mak327: hey ropp
thx for the plays sorry to be a bother but your picks are 1u 2u 3u only?just want to manage my money with your plays again thx i wonnt post much donnt like to be a bother
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#41 Posted: 11/18/2011 2:31:43 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by miconate:
neil any thoughts on norfolk +15 for the game. i thing they can hang with drexel. ur input would be a value. thanks.
sorry was late. they're hanging tough. |
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#42 Posted: 11/18/2011 2:36:37 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by lottamoneynono: Any info on the Davidson Duke game NRopp?
Hey Mozart Come and ROCK ME AMADEUS
My first initial thought was under. This Davidson offense is much better in the up and down style, rather than in the half court, and I'm sure Coach K knows that. I think a few better spots lie ahead for Davidson (they get Temple at home, Kansas on a neutral, and an extremely favorable conference schedule). I had this total in the lower 140s, probably 79-61 type of range for the game. Just couldn't trust it. |
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#43 Posted: 11/18/2011 2:37:49 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by MattK: Neil your projected spreads that you posted yesterday are right on the money lol
Your post:
Here are tommorow’s projected’s; obviously some of the tournament games are missing:
+8 Ball State -8 Indiana State +15 Delaware -15 Villanova +6 Cal Riverside -6 Youngstown State -1 Arkansas LR +1 Eastern Michigan +8 St. Bonaventure -8 Cleveland State +16 Miami OH -16 Xavier +11 Houston -11 Arkansas -6 New Mexico +6 Arizona State -15 Stanford +15 UC Davis +19 Davidson -19 Duke
That is amazing!! If I ever own a casino in Vegas can I hire you to be the lines maker? :)
I can probably do that. Give Stuckey and Gamehunter first dibs, then adjust after that. |
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#44 Posted: 11/18/2011 2:42:18 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by WinPleasee:
What do you think about St Johns vs A&M?
I definitely favor Texas A&M as the better squad. I just have no idea how they respond after such a poor loss. Might not seem that a bad loss, but this team wasn't expecting in the slightest to lose that game and probably got caught looking ahead. Not really sure how a young St. John's team rebounds after first loss either. Take away yesterday's games and it's a no-brainer play on A&M here, but unfortunately can't do that.
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#45 Posted: 11/18/2011 2:45:04 PM thoughts on akron? |
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#46 Posted: 11/18/2011 2:46:12 PM nevermind i see you notes on them, thank you nropp |
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#47 Posted: 11/18/2011 2:55:05 PM Every consensus site I've seen has Iona at over 90% on both the spread AND the ML... fade material? Or is there just no trusting an offense as toothless as WMU?
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#48 Posted: 11/18/2011 2:57:27 PM BOL, laid 2.5 with alabama... hope they can cover |
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#49 Posted: 11/18/2011 2:58:36 PM GL nropp
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#50 Posted: 11/18/2011 3:04:56 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by DannySatan:
Every consensus site I've seen has Iona at over 90% on both the spread AND the ML... fade material? Or is there just no trusting an offense as toothless as WMU?
Not big into consensus #'s. Western Michigan's offense is decent, probably one of the better one's in the MAC. They just haven't found any rhythm yet. |
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