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Posted: 4/10/2012 8:31:52 PM
If you're new to this you should understand that most locals just want your money. Getting half now and a promise is much better than needing to chase you down for it. That arrangement works 100% of the time. 

That said, he probably wouldn't let you bet even if you wanted to since he knows the chances of getting paid are reduced the more you owe him. 

Pay him off in installments THEN, if you must, bet $25 here or there. A hundred dollars worth of losers anyone can pay off. Thousands is a reach,  especially when you're not capable of making your own handicapping decisions.  Remember, the absolute best handicappers in the world only go 60% or so. You're not one of them. 

BTW, drop the tout service. They are all full of garbage. You get better advice following 3 or 4 of the better handicappers here than the "Pro's". 
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Posted: 4/10/2012 9:32:20 PM
Wish I had seen this earlier. Would have told you to parlay my 2 picks for a few hundred. Would have got you damn near even.
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Posted: 4/10/2012 10:02:12 PM
don't chase. the man will know your trying to get over on him and may not be willing to offer a payment plan. stop now. offer to pay him half and the rest in installments.
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Posted: 4/10/2012 10:32:12 PM
Offer to let him fock your girl
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Posted: 4/10/2012 10:32:35 PM
If you dont have a girl, offer up yourself 
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Posted: 4/10/2012 11:15:53 PM
Tough break on the Mets tonight 
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Posted: 4/10/2012 11:37:51 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ad1260:

Tough break on the Mets tonight 


Yea, I ended up betting $250 on the Mets and $500 on the NY Yankees. I am praying the Yankees win. Score is 5-4 Yankees bottom of the 12th.
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Posted: 4/11/2012 12:35:24 AM
As long as bookies see your making an effort to pay them even if its low they are ok with that as long as you do not lie to them and you are pretty consistant in your payment plan.
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Posted: 4/11/2012 12:41:56 AM
Yankees did ya a solid 
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Posted: 4/11/2012 12:43:07 AM
You should probably take a couple weeks off and just get out of debt to the guy...then start small, it seems like you make a decent living outside of betting. Just get out of debt, then just limit yourself to 100-200 bucks a game max. 
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Posted: 4/11/2012 12:43:17 AM
wow.  some of these responses

It sucks to be down this much but the reality is that it is not that much. Pay him what you can and then pay the rest in comfortable installments. In the long run it is not that much money. 

But do not get out of hand with the fantasy of making it back in a few games. This is betting. There is a reason that there is juice and the gambling game is a "tough nut to crack" in terms of being profitable.

Pay it back slowly and make sure that in the future you bet what you can comfortably lose. This is not a "get rich scheme". View it more as entertainment and stay within your means.


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Posted: 4/11/2012 3:03:21 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mattbrot:

wow.  some of these responses

It sucks to be down this much but the reality is that it is not that much. Pay him what you can and then pay the rest in comfortable installments. In the long run it is not that much money. 

But do not get out of hand with the fantasy of making it back in a few games. This is betting. There is a reason that there is juice and the gambling game is a "tough nut to crack" in terms of being profitable.

Pay it back slowly and make sure that in the future you bet what you can comfortably lose. This is not a "get rich scheme". View it more as entertainment and stay within your means.




Thanks for your advice, I made one last $300 bet on the Chicago White Sox and it's 10-6 them top of the 9th. So if they win I will be around $3300 in the hole. I talked to my bookie last night and we settled on I will give him $2,000 up front, and $700 over the next 2 weeks.


After I am paid off i'll be making $25-$75 bets max until I start to get "good"
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Posted: 4/11/2012 3:14:20 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by dubble:



Thanks for your advice, I made one last $300 bet on the Chicago White Sox and it's 10-6 them top of the 9th. So if they win I will be around $3300 in the hole. I talked to my bookie last night and we settled on I will give him $2,000 up front, and $700 over the next 2 weeks.


After I am paid off i'll be making $25-$75 bets max until I start to get "good"

Why not just bet $700 on Phili tonight there a LOCK
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Posted: 4/11/2012 3:14:46 PM
Phillies that is not those douchebag flyers 
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Posted: 4/11/2012 5:26:47 PM

put down the gaming crack pipe and walk slowly away 

as a rule, I never place more than a couple of units on a pick.

a unit for me is a c-note.  stay small, stay smart.  crouch down and make yourself smaller

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Posted: 4/11/2012 11:54:11 PM
Pay the man off and then start using an offshore book. That way you'll never, ever bet money you don't have because you have to deposit before you wager.
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Posted: 4/12/2012 12:13:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bowlslit:

Pay the man off and then start using an offshore book. That way you'll never, ever bet money you don't have because you have to deposit before you wager.

Not true if you max out a credit card with cash advances just to bet offshore.

The reason I say this is because I used to do the above.  So instead of owing a crookie with no interest, I owed the credit card company with major interest. 

On the surface, however, your advice is spot on. 

 

 

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Posted: 4/12/2012 12:17:15 AM

If you want to get cute and chase, make sure you do like I did back in my younger, immature years:  Chase with the biggest favorite on the ML in MLB, and when they lose, the stupidity of this thought process will quickly become clear. 

At this point, previously owing the bookie 2K instead of 4K does not seem so bad. 

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Posted: 4/12/2012 12:22:24 AM

From experience, if you play with fire and chase, you will eventually get burned , may I say, charred badly.  Instead, do the wise thing: 

Be completely honest with the bookie and pay him what you can up front.

Quit gambling immediately!

Pay the rest off in installments. 

Resume gambling if you choose, but have your bookie put you on a $500-1000 weekly loss limit.

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Posted: 4/12/2012 12:32:17 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by wizardofroz:

Not true if you max out a credit card with cash advances just to bet offshore.

The reason I say this is because I used to do the above.  So instead of owing a crookie with no interest, I owed the credit card company with major interest. 

On the surface, however, your advice is spot on. 

 

 

True, I am so used to using an offshore book I forget that you can use a credit card. I've used Western Union for soo long and probably have earned a free lamp shade by now.

I've never got into trouble with a bookie and I would never want to use one because of the ease of the offshore books I use.

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Posted: 4/12/2012 2:26:33 AM
Thanks guys for the responses. The Yankess 2 nights ago was my last bet. So I am down $3,300. I would have been down so much more if I had bet on Pitt and Vancouver ML (both lost), so I am glad I took the advice of everyone in this thread and held off on betting

Once I pay off my debt and start re-betting i'll be sure to bet smarter and not chase like I started doing back when I was down $1,000.

After a week I feel like buying a weekly expert package due to the fact that they claim they make around $2,000-$4,000 a week (unless covers is lying).
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Posted: 4/12/2012 2:48:56 AM
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Thanks guys for the responses. The Yankess 2 nights ago was my last bet. So I am down $3,300. I would have been down so much more if I had bet on Pitt and Vancouver ML (both lost), so I am glad I took the advice of everyone in this thread and held off on betting

Once I pay off my debt and start re-betting i'll be sure to bet smarter and not chase like I started doing back when I was down $1,000.

After a week I feel like buying a weekly expert package due to the fact that they claim they make around $2,000-$4,000 a week (unless covers is lying).

Covers is just providing those salesman an opportunity to make their selections available for a fee.  And if the salesman were so good at their job, they surely would not need a stranger's money to help them out.  They would just bet more money on their selections if they were half as good as they claim.

I regularly bet over my head back in college and paid for selections here and there when I was desperate.  And it NEVER worked out like I had planned.  I just got myself into bigger debt while sending some blowhard more money on top of it.

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Posted: 4/12/2012 2:59:05 AM

 We all want the easy way out of debt, just like when it comes to losing weight.  Chasing losses is like popping weight loss pills.  You may succeed in the short run and think you got away with something.  But you will do more harm than good with these destructive behaviors, and eventually everything will come full circle and blow up in your face.

And FWIW, being down a few grand after paying your man half is not that bad.  Just learn from your mistakes and don't repeat them like I did in college.  The prolonged misery, stress and depression is not worth it.

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Posted: 4/12/2012 11:20:35 AM
If you had $1 for every post like this you would be able to pay him off and have extra to bet with.  

You have to give him the $2500 and tell him to cut you off until you can get the rest.   He should take it easy on you if you're honest. You'll probably have to do a payment plan with points.   

 If you keep betting then tell him you don't have it you'll be in deep garbage.  

I don't like using locals, but in the past I'd lay the money up front and always refused a credit line.  But the locals I used were basement and back room guys that had a chalk board, and this was before cell phones and internet.
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Posted: 4/12/2012 5:21:36 PM
Pay da man his moni....
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