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Posted: 2/14/2010 1:44:30 AM

I've been dealing with this guy for 2 years now using bookieauto.com.  He was local until he moved out of state to RI about a year ago.  Still, I've been dealing with him since there were no problem with fund transfers or anything.  I was losing most of the time, so I would send him my personal check via mail (to his home address, so I know where he lives) and he would do the same when I won.  Now 2 weeks ago I won $3300 and he told me over the phone that he would mail it out to me that week.  Last week, while waiting for the payment, I won $3700 more.  So, I called him to see how he would take care of it and guess what???  He put my number on restricted calling list and wouldn't answer when I call from another phone.  Still, I haven't received the first payment, and I'm sure that I'm not ever gonna get the 2nd one either.  Also, he had blocked me from loggin into autobookie account, where I have +$125 since tuesday.  I wasn't gonna bet through him anymore until I get the 2 checks anyway, but it pissed me off since he shut me down without telling me.

We all know what bookie would do to you if you don't pay them.  But I've never even heard anyone having issues getting money from one.  I have a couple of ppl in NY who offered to collect it for me for $3k but I'm not sure where it would put me in liability, in case they do something you know, illegal to the bookie or his family.  Believe me, I'm not looking for any violence or to threaten anyone for $7k.  But, if I have to , I'm willing to hire those guys as last resolution.  $4k is better than $0k, right? 

Before I did anything, I wanted to ask you folks if you had better ideas or experience that you would share with me and other ppl here.  Any input or advice would be appeciated.  I know I should've never dealt with bookie in long distance, better yet, I know I should've just not gambled at all.  So, please save your comments about what I should've done before.  What's done is done and I'm just looking for an effective way to handle it.

Thanks in advance.

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Posted: 2/14/2010 1:46:18 AM
Send him an E-Kneecap.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 1:46:55 AM
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Posted: 2/14/2010 1:53:11 AM
You're fucked unless you are street smart enough to hire a "collector" to go to his house and take care of it. It costs about 40% of what the guy owes you, but they will get your money.

You don't seem like a guy that runs in those type circles and people like that.....

I'd go alright to his house, and if you don't think you can beat his behind, take a gun. What is he going to do? Tell he's a bookie who stiffed you and you robbed him of what he owes?

Police don't care about bettors. They care about bookies like him.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 1:53:58 AM

Believe me, I really do want to break his legs and arms.

I wonder if contacting bookieauto.com administrator to report him would do anything. 

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Posted: 2/14/2010 1:59:15 AM
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You're fucked unless you are street smart enough to hire a "collector" to go to his house and take care of it. It costs about 40% of what the guy owes you, but they will get your money.

You don't seem like a guy that runs in those type circles and people like that.....

I'd go alright to his house, and if you don't think you can beat his behind, take a gun. What is he going to do? Tell he's a bookie who stiffed you and you robbed him of what he owes?

Police don't care about bettors. They care about bookies like him.

You're right!  I'm not in that type of circle.  The guys in NY are friends with someone I know and they offered to do it for 3K which is just about 40%.  But will I be liable if anything happens in the process?  Also, isn't there a chance those guys might not pay me my share after getting it from the bookie?

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Posted: 2/14/2010 2:08:58 AM
There was a guy in my town that vanished after the Steelars covered against the Seahawks in the Superbowl a few years back. No one has seen him since. I heard he owed out almost 500K.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 2:11:33 AM

****Steelers.................. I need to get to bed...

And it was $200,000, not $500,000

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Posted: 2/14/2010 2:13:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

There was a guy in my town that vanished after the Steelars covered against the Seahawks in the Superbowl a few years back. No one has seen him since. I heard he owed out almost 500K.

It could be my bookie.  Who knows?

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Posted: 2/14/2010 2:13:49 AM
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Posted: 2/14/2010 2:18:44 AM
see if you can somehow create a new account with him using an alias, and run up the account.  if you win collect, if you lose don't pay. 
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Posted: 2/14/2010 4:10:36 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by dennishopson:

You're fucked unless you are street smart enough to hire a "collector" to go to his house and take care of it. It costs about 40% of what the guy owes you, but they will get your money.

You don't seem like a guy that runs in those type circles and people like that.....

I'd go alright to his house, and if you don't think you can beat his behind, take a gun. What is he going to do? Tell he's a bookie who stiffed you and you robbed him of what he owes?

Police don't care about bettors. They care about bookies like him.


What's he going to do? 

Kill you or be killed. Don't take a gun to his house.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 7:31:08 AM
IF YOU REALLY WANT YOUR MONEY I CAN HELP.YOU JUST TELL HIM YOUR GOING TO THE POLICE AND TELLING THE COPS THAT THIS BOOKIE THREATENED YOU.BEING A BOOKIE IS A MINOR CRIME BUT ONCE THEY THREATEN SOMEBODY THERE SCREWED.

JUST TELL THE BOOKIE THAT YOUR REPORTING HIS THREATS TO THE POLICE I KNOW HE DIDNT THREATEN YOU JUST TELL HIM THAT.YOU WILL BE PAID THE NEXT DAY NO BOOKIE CAN AFFORD THREATENING PEOPLE.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 7:35:10 AM
can you get your hands on some c4??
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Posted: 2/14/2010 12:50:06 PM
personally....... i come from the philosophy that if you don't want someone to darn you over, you have to show them what happens when they darn you over......

show the guy that YOU are the bookie here........ find him, and break every bone in his face until he starts bleeding money like an ATM machine.......

if you don't have it in you to do it yourself....... pay the men to do it for you......... nobody on this planet deserves to live or be happy if they are scumbag thieves.......

never let anyone take anything from you that is rightfully yours....... i would follow the fuckbag to the end of the Earth, personally......... and by the time i was done with him, he would fear life itself.......

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Posted: 2/14/2010 12:54:27 PM
what you need to do is get word to him via a family member, if you do not know of any, you will have to travel to his new location and follow one of them to a store or something, be pollite, introduce yourself as a friend from autobook, (not bookie) and tell them to tell him that it is very important that he contact you, once he realizes you have access to his family, he'll pay up, trust me.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 2:21:06 PM
I had a local owe me $9700 once and he continued to dodge my calls. I'll tell ya what, once I threatened to break up his operation by turning him in, he quickly paid me. Like someone mentioned, a cop won't care about a gambler, but rather the book himself.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 4:37:19 PM

Thank YOU ALL for sharing ideads.  I especially like gfinger, tmstr, and jim's.  Will he take it seriously about being reported to the police?  Because I don't have access to the website anymore and don't have the proof to show that he's in booking business. 

As for tmstr, I looked him up on whitepages and it gave me 2 other household members' names.  Although names are all I have right now, I'm willing to spend $39 for detailed info on all of them just in case.  There is one thing that worries me though.  He seems to be renting this house and I'm not sure if he'll wait for me there. 

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Posted: 2/14/2010 4:52:11 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by siyoki77:

Thank YOU ALL for sharing ideads.  I especially like gfinger, tmstr, and jim's.  Will he take it seriously about being reported to the police?  Because I don't have access to the website anymore and don't have the proof to show that he's in booking business. 

As for tmstr, I looked him up on whitepages and it gave me 2 other household members' names.  Although names are all I have right now, I'm willing to spend $39 for detailed info on all of them just in case.  There is one thing that worries me though.  He seems to be renting this house and I'm not sure if he'll wait for me there. 

it doesnt matter if hes renting or not, if you have access to say his mother or kids or something like that, the shear fear of something happening to them as a result of his refusing to pay out a debt will force him pay you off, not that you would harm either of them, but the what if factor is certainly enough, imagin if the tables were turned and your kid came home from school and told you your friend from betbook gave him a ride home and said you need to call him, wouldn't you call?damn right you would
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Posted: 2/14/2010 5:12:47 PM
I don't know if this will work, but have you tried egging his house
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Posted: 2/14/2010 7:30:53 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by siyoki77:

Thank YOU ALL for sharing ideads.  I especially like gfinger, tmstr, and jim's.  Will he take it seriously about being reported to the police?  Because I don't have access to the website anymore and don't have the proof to show that he's in booking business. 

As for tmstr, I looked him up on whitepages and it gave me 2 other household members' names.  Although names are all I have right now, I'm willing to spend $39 for detailed info on all of them just in case.  There is one thing that worries me though.  He seems to be renting this house and I'm not sure if he'll wait for me there. 



Well how did you get hooked up with him in the first place? I assume referral correct? How about contacting the person that hooked you up with him or perhaps some other clients he has. Do you know where he lives?
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Posted: 2/14/2010 8:00:40 PM
Burn his friggin house down.
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QUOTE Originally Posted by siyoki77:

You're right!  I'm not in that type of circle.  The guys in NY are friends with someone I know and they offered to do it for 3K which is just about 40%.  But will I be liable if anything happens in the process?  Also, isn't there a chance those guys might not pay me my share after getting it from the bookie?



No. The collector would do time (short time) if anything, and that's really rare. They barely say anything when they approach the scumbag, and make them afraid.  They would never say a name. They know the risks......All they do is lean on them, so they (your bookie will know that he will experience extreme pain and hassle if he doesn't pay  the debt.....Once again, what's your bookie going to say, "a guy I shafted for 6K wanted his money that , me the bookie shafted?"

You would never get into trouble.....Try and find another bookie, and present your problem in very general terms with no names mentioned unless asked. Ask him if he has any ideas on how to get your 6K. He'll know what you mean. No decent bookie of any size, doesn't have a collector within a quick phone call away.

GL

If I was still in Ohio, I know guys that would drive that far for $2500
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Posted: 2/14/2010 8:28:51 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

There was a guy in my town that vanished after the Steelars covered against the Seahawks in the Superbowl a few years back. No one has seen him since. I heard he owed out almost 500K.


I had the Seahawks......

They were looking so great till that game. Yet another example of my opinion that Holmgren is less than useful now.
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Posted: 2/14/2010 8:40:43 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by siyoki77:

You're right!  I'm not in that type of circle.  The guys in NY are friends with someone I know and they offered to do it for 3K which is just about 40%.  But will I be liable if anything happens in the process?  Also, isn't there a chance those guys might not pay me my share after getting it from the bookie?



They will give you you're part of the money. Trust me. It's good for their long term business and rep.

Go that route and don't be afraid. Meet them though first .......
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