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Factually, I know what you say about transcription to be true.  The problem is that Christains love to cherry pick the bible.  Some of it (whatever appeals to them) is gospel law, others, like my quotes above, are written off as the "law of the times".

Something else to think about - the god who supposedly wrote or inspired this bible - shouldnt have the limitations of time.  He is all knowing, all loving, and all powerful.  How does this god write about slavery 4000 years ago as if it is acceptable knowing what he knows is to come?

There is plenty in the new testament too - but also - do you know Jesus NEVER said a thing about homosexuality?

Read the following Bible versus that Jesus spoke about, Im going to source this argument to this link.....  It is very good reading.  After you read them, tell me ONE SINGLE PERSON YOU KNOW that follows this.  And if they are so widely ignored, why is it OK to cherry pick what you choose to believe - even in the New Testament?   The below quotes say "sell everything you have and live your life for the poor and god".  Literally.

Matthew 6:19

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Luke 14:33

Any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.

Matthew 6:24

No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money.

Matthew 19:21-24

Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Matthew 19:28-29

Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.

Luke 9:23-25

Then he said to them all: "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will save it. What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, and yet lose or forfeit his very self?

Matt 13: 22

The one who received the seed that fell among the thorns is the man who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke it, making it unfruitful.

Hebrews 13:5

Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you."

Phil 2:3

Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.

Acts 2:44-45

All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.

BINGO!!

I always say that Jesus teachings have been hijacked by the people who use them for power.  At their core, Jesus teachings are amazing.  The problem is that todays average Christian is SO far away from what he taught it is incredible.

I find it incredibly ironic that if Jesus were alive today he would revile the republican party that the church so supports today.  He would hate democrats almost as much.  Jesus was a socialist.  I just find it so hipocritical that today christians are so judgemental and support an agenda that goes directly against jesus teachings.

Anyway,  

i never said that, although i did, and continue to, say that weight is affected by genetics.  the intersection of genetics, biology, sociology and psychology, to name a few, is extremely complex and does not lend itself to elementary conclusions and weak logic. 

while i never said what you attribute to me, what i do is question the conclusions of people that appear to me to be based on a complete failure of logic, nonsense and/or what apparently was learned in bible study, as opposed to science class.  speaking of which, above you say that the idea that sexual preference is predetermined by genetics is not true and not proven.  first, it certainly may be true, even if unproven.  vanzack can explain what is meant by that.  second no one is saying it is true the way you word it and understand the differences between absolutely determined, strongly affected, partially affected and unaffected to understand what i mean by that. 

There is a TON of evidence pointing to genetics and sexual orientation.  Not surprisingly, people choose not to read it.

Here are some links.  This is mainstream stuff folks.  For all those posting in this thread about the absense of evidence and that sexuality is not genetic, if you sincerely are interested in knowing what you are talking about, do some reading:

LINK 1

LINK 2

LINK 3

ABN - I respectfully ask - no make that beg - you to click on my links above, or do some REAL SCIENTIFIC reading in to the subject.

You will be very surprised that the scientific community strongly disagrees with your "factual" statements.

People knew the world was round before they had proof.

People knew there were germs before there was proof.

People knew there was DNA before the genome was mapped.

Scientists know that sexuality is predisposed genetically, the proof is coming.

Your argument that it is not yet "proven" does not mean it has not yet been "scientifically determined", as you use both terms in the same sentence above.

so snuke, when so many of the hardcore religious base their prejudices against gays on the bible, what is wrong with vanzack quoting other parts of the bible these same people choose to ignore to point out their hyposcrisy and the idea that these people aren't necessarily basing their beliefs on the bible but in fact are justifying their prejudices (and insecurities, fears and ignorance) with particular passages from the bible that fit?  is that what jesus intended?

why shouldn't happy people be allowed to marry?