Why did the loafs hire Shanahan if they have Nonnis as their GM? Because that's another façade. When the Leafs don't make the playoffs, they will blame Nonnis and fire him to appease the DUMB natives.
Why did the loafs hire Shanahan if they have Nonnis as their GM? Because that's another façade. When the Leafs don't make the playoffs, they will blame Nonnis and fire him to appease the DUMB natives.
Loafs got rid of Tim liewicke because he talked about winning. Not kidding
Loafs got rid of Tim liewicke because he talked about winning. Not kidding
So true.....he would have fit in well with the Muskoka 5
So true.....he would have fit in well with the Muskoka 5
Normally I would say you wouldn't find anyone who dislikes the Leafs more then me but maybe I have found the guy.
I agree with everything you said the real problem I have is you hire Carlyle knowing full well the type of coach and person he is, how could it work with the only star player they have?
Normally I would say you wouldn't find anyone who dislikes the Leafs more then me but maybe I have found the guy.
I agree with everything you said the real problem I have is you hire Carlyle knowing full well the type of coach and person he is, how could it work with the only star player they have?
The Toronto Raptors turned it around because of GM Masai Uriji and smart calculated trades. Aside from the Spurs R.C. Buford, Uriji is the best asset management GM in the NBA presently. Great negotiating skills and scouting background, really good with player interaction just check out this link about how Masai turned Kyle Lowry from a stubborn SOB very similar to Phil Kessell who didn't get along with any of his coaches into a mature leader that just won the NBA Eastern player for December.
Can this transformation happen with the Leafs? Yes but not with a lot of work and dismantling of this displorable hockey team. They need to get rid of the dead wood which includes the upper management (Shanahan, Nonnis get rid of these dummies) and players (Phaneuf and couple of the other turds) because getting rid of the coach every 2 to 3 years is exactly what DB said it is, smoke and mirrors.
The Toronto Raptors turned it around because of GM Masai Uriji and smart calculated trades. Aside from the Spurs R.C. Buford, Uriji is the best asset management GM in the NBA presently. Great negotiating skills and scouting background, really good with player interaction just check out this link about how Masai turned Kyle Lowry from a stubborn SOB very similar to Phil Kessell who didn't get along with any of his coaches into a mature leader that just won the NBA Eastern player for December.
Can this transformation happen with the Leafs? Yes but not with a lot of work and dismantling of this displorable hockey team. They need to get rid of the dead wood which includes the upper management (Shanahan, Nonnis get rid of these dummies) and players (Phaneuf and couple of the other turds) because getting rid of the coach every 2 to 3 years is exactly what DB said it is, smoke and mirrors.
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classic case of organization doing it bass-ackwards: committing to a core group of players with a specific skill set, then bringing in coaches (Wilson, Carlyle) whose philosophies don't fit that core skill set and expecting (hoping) the core group can or will adapt...
if the core can't or won't adapt, you've got a problem...
every team essentially operates under a similar specific kind of dressing-room culture: 4 or 5 or 6 key guys whose talent and style of play dictate the success or failure of the entire group, and when they key guys are operating on their own agenda it undermines the whole team, including the coaching staff...
Wilson hit it perfectly: when the same nucleus of players goes through 2 or 3 different coaches and the results don't change, it's the players who are at fault...
I recall the late 1980s and early 1990s when Detroit was beginning to emerge from the dead-things era with a young core led by yzerman, who was a 100+ pt-a-yr guy on a team that became stuck at a certain level it couldn't seem to surpass...
in came bowman...there were pretty strong indications that bowman wasn't convinced he could win with yzerman playing yzerman's way, and if my memory is correct they came close to moving him...but long story short, yzerman bought into bowman's authority and adapted his game to become a more two-way guy, less scoring but more team-oriented, and once the "team leader" bought in the group followed...
so it can be done...players can adapt...
but there's no bowman out there IMO...
unless it's mike babcock...
I suspect shanahan (another leader on those Detroit cup-winning teams, and a guy who got on board behind yzerman) will go hard after babcock if the wings allow his contract to expire...
and after 10-11 yrs in Detroit, babcock is ripe for the kind of fresh challenge the leafs represent...
and IF he ends up in Toronto, it'll be on his terms...if he doesn't think he can win with kessel, phaneuf, lupul et al and his impression is they won't change, they'll be gone...
just my 2 cents
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classic case of organization doing it bass-ackwards: committing to a core group of players with a specific skill set, then bringing in coaches (Wilson, Carlyle) whose philosophies don't fit that core skill set and expecting (hoping) the core group can or will adapt...
if the core can't or won't adapt, you've got a problem...
every team essentially operates under a similar specific kind of dressing-room culture: 4 or 5 or 6 key guys whose talent and style of play dictate the success or failure of the entire group, and when they key guys are operating on their own agenda it undermines the whole team, including the coaching staff...
Wilson hit it perfectly: when the same nucleus of players goes through 2 or 3 different coaches and the results don't change, it's the players who are at fault...
I recall the late 1980s and early 1990s when Detroit was beginning to emerge from the dead-things era with a young core led by yzerman, who was a 100+ pt-a-yr guy on a team that became stuck at a certain level it couldn't seem to surpass...
in came bowman...there were pretty strong indications that bowman wasn't convinced he could win with yzerman playing yzerman's way, and if my memory is correct they came close to moving him...but long story short, yzerman bought into bowman's authority and adapted his game to become a more two-way guy, less scoring but more team-oriented, and once the "team leader" bought in the group followed...
so it can be done...players can adapt...
but there's no bowman out there IMO...
unless it's mike babcock...
I suspect shanahan (another leader on those Detroit cup-winning teams, and a guy who got on board behind yzerman) will go hard after babcock if the wings allow his contract to expire...
and after 10-11 yrs in Detroit, babcock is ripe for the kind of fresh challenge the leafs represent...
and IF he ends up in Toronto, it'll be on his terms...if he doesn't think he can win with kessel, phaneuf, lupul et al and his impression is they won't change, they'll be gone...
just my 2 cents
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