First of all, if you think youre a "Sharp", youre already a loser...because you have no clue
The square/sharp talk has been going on for years on forums like these. It's an easy way to make one feel justified in their respective wager.
The bottom line is that it's all about the number and market entry. I hate to use the term sharp, but if there was a professional money on this game it came in at one number: Kansas City +7. Sharp money isn't about betting the team, the quarterback, or defenses. It's simply about grabbing the BEST number at a spread they feel there was value. They do not play teams, they play numbers.
In this case, there were groups out there that felt that getting a TD with KC was value. Win some, lose some. They do not care if it's a bad play on paper, or even a lopsided loss. It's all about perceived value, and grabbing a TD in this case was the number. Did it pan out? No. Will they play a similar number like that again? You bet.
Was a KC the play for these groups at 6 or below? Negative. This was where the term square can be used an appropriate term. Anyone grabbing a bad number is a square, no matter what the situation. Who takes +5.5 when they could have had +7? Everyone takes bad numbers; I take bad numbers. Most do not have the capabilities to shop various markets. Taking a bad number makes us as square as it comes. Betting KC at a bad number makes one more of a square then Joe Public on a public bet.
All just my opinion. Regardless, just play one's way and don't worry about the cliché terms that are out there.
The square/sharp talk has been going on for years on forums like these. It's an easy way to make one feel justified in their respective wager.
The bottom line is that it's all about the number and market entry. I hate to use the term sharp, but if there was a professional money on this game it came in at one number: Kansas City +7. Sharp money isn't about betting the team, the quarterback, or defenses. It's simply about grabbing the BEST number at a spread they feel there was value. They do not play teams, they play numbers.
In this case, there were groups out there that felt that getting a TD with KC was value. Win some, lose some. They do not care if it's a bad play on paper, or even a lopsided loss. It's all about perceived value, and grabbing a TD in this case was the number. Did it pan out? No. Will they play a similar number like that again? You bet.
Was a KC the play for these groups at 6 or below? Negative. This was where the term square can be used an appropriate term. Anyone grabbing a bad number is a square, no matter what the situation. Who takes +5.5 when they could have had +7? Everyone takes bad numbers; I take bad numbers. Most do not have the capabilities to shop various markets. Taking a bad number makes us as square as it comes. Betting KC at a bad number makes one more of a square then Joe Public on a public bet.
All just my opinion. Regardless, just play one's way and don't worry about the cliché terms that are out there.
The square/sharp talk has been going on for years on forums like these. It's an easy way to make one feel justified in their respective wager.
The bottom line is that it's all about the number and market entry. I hate to use the term sharp, but if there was a professional money on this game it came in at one number: Kansas City +7. Sharp money isn't about betting the team, the quarterback, or defenses. It's simply about grabbing the BEST number at a spread they feel there was value. They do not play teams, they play numbers.
In this case, there were groups out there that felt that getting a TD with KC was value. Win some, lose some. They do not care if it's a bad play on paper, or even a lopsided loss. It's all about perceived value, and grabbing a TD in this case was the number. Did it pan out? No. Will they play a similar number like that again? You bet.
Was a KC the play for these groups at 6 or below? Negative. This was where the term square can be used an appropriate term. Anyone grabbing a bad number is a square, no matter what the situation. Who takes +5.5 when they could have had +7? Everyone takes bad numbers; I take bad numbers. Most do not have the capabilities to shop various markets. Taking a bad number makes us as square as it comes. Betting KC at a bad number makes one more of a square then Joe Public on a public bet.
All just my opinion. Regardless, just play one's way and don't worry about the cliché terms that are out there.
The square/sharp talk has been going on for years on forums like these. It's an easy way to make one feel justified in their respective wager.
The bottom line is that it's all about the number and market entry. I hate to use the term sharp, but if there was a professional money on this game it came in at one number: Kansas City +7. Sharp money isn't about betting the team, the quarterback, or defenses. It's simply about grabbing the BEST number at a spread they feel there was value. They do not play teams, they play numbers.
In this case, there were groups out there that felt that getting a TD with KC was value. Win some, lose some. They do not care if it's a bad play on paper, or even a lopsided loss. It's all about perceived value, and grabbing a TD in this case was the number. Did it pan out? No. Will they play a similar number like that again? You bet.
Was a KC the play for these groups at 6 or below? Negative. This was where the term square can be used an appropriate term. Anyone grabbing a bad number is a square, no matter what the situation. Who takes +5.5 when they could have had +7? Everyone takes bad numbers; I take bad numbers. Most do not have the capabilities to shop various markets. Taking a bad number makes us as square as it comes. Betting KC at a bad number makes one more of a square then Joe Public on a public bet.
All just my opinion. Regardless, just play one's way and don't worry about the cliché terms that are out there.
what? I don't think you see what he is trying to say at all because the rest of that was nonsense.
GB has a "loyal" gambling following that consists of a lot of casual "square" bettors which can cause lines to a be a bit inflated. My locals were around -7' -8 and obviously lost a few handfuls of cash, but regardless of when the points come ("this game was never in doubt until blahblah called off the troops" are famous last lines of a square. Not calling you one, but just saying) all KC needed was a field goal at some point to crush that.
And whoever thinks there can't be sharp lines when there are only a few games being played is an idiot. You can actually find some of the best numbers on Thursday and Friday games when there aren't as many people betting.
what? I don't think you see what he is trying to say at all because the rest of that was nonsense.
GB has a "loyal" gambling following that consists of a lot of casual "square" bettors which can cause lines to a be a bit inflated. My locals were around -7' -8 and obviously lost a few handfuls of cash, but regardless of when the points come ("this game was never in doubt until blahblah called off the troops" are famous last lines of a square. Not calling you one, but just saying) all KC needed was a field goal at some point to crush that.
And whoever thinks there can't be sharp lines when there are only a few games being played is an idiot. You can actually find some of the best numbers on Thursday and Friday games when there aren't as many people betting.
what? I don't think you see what he is trying to say at all because the rest of that was nonsense.
GB has a "loyal" gambling following that consists of a lot of casual "square" bettors which can cause lines to a be a bit inflated. My locals were around -7' -8 and obviously lost a few handfuls of cash, but regardless of when the points come ("this game was never in doubt until blahblah called off the troops" are famous last lines of a square. Not calling you one, but just saying) all KC needed was a field goal at some point to crush that.
And whoever thinks there can't be sharp lines when there are only a few games being played is an idiot. You can actually find some of the best numbers on Thursday and Friday games when there aren't as many people betting.
It could also be "Square" to that, because even a FG wouldn't have mattered...
Plus, without an AWFUL spot on 4th down givin KC a free 1st down because they didn't measure for some reason and GB couldn't challenge...this was a 16 point win, which was still closer than this game was.
what? I don't think you see what he is trying to say at all because the rest of that was nonsense.
GB has a "loyal" gambling following that consists of a lot of casual "square" bettors which can cause lines to a be a bit inflated. My locals were around -7' -8 and obviously lost a few handfuls of cash, but regardless of when the points come ("this game was never in doubt until blahblah called off the troops" are famous last lines of a square. Not calling you one, but just saying) all KC needed was a field goal at some point to crush that.
And whoever thinks there can't be sharp lines when there are only a few games being played is an idiot. You can actually find some of the best numbers on Thursday and Friday games when there aren't as many people betting.
It could also be "Square" to that, because even a FG wouldn't have mattered...
Plus, without an AWFUL spot on 4th down givin KC a free 1st down because they didn't measure for some reason and GB couldn't challenge...this was a 16 point win, which was still closer than this game was.
IMO, this is not the case. As madisonmike pointed out above, the initial line of -7 GB was a bit inflated due to public perception. At this point, respected bettors played the +7 on their perceived value of getting KC on a key number. Due to this response, books adjusted their number to where it should have been set in the -5/-5.5 range. At this point (in terms of some prof bettors), there was no value either direction.
The final score is inconsequential. Some groups believed that the -7 was a bit inflated and grabbed the best number out there. Regardless of the final score, many (not all) would jump on this same number again.
Regardless of the final score, playing -5/5.5 either direction and you are Joe Public. It is what it is.
IMO, this is not the case. As madisonmike pointed out above, the initial line of -7 GB was a bit inflated due to public perception. At this point, respected bettors played the +7 on their perceived value of getting KC on a key number. Due to this response, books adjusted their number to where it should have been set in the -5/-5.5 range. At this point (in terms of some prof bettors), there was no value either direction.
The final score is inconsequential. Some groups believed that the -7 was a bit inflated and grabbed the best number out there. Regardless of the final score, many (not all) would jump on this same number again.
Regardless of the final score, playing -5/5.5 either direction and you are Joe Public. It is what it is.
It could also be "Square" to that, because even a FG wouldn't have mattered...
Plus, without an AWFUL spot on 4th down givin KC a free 1st down because they didn't measure for some reason and GB couldn't challenge...this was a 16 point win, which was still closer than this game was.
It was a 10 point game, with a field goal it would have brought it to 7. I just stated that the number in my area was -7' and -8. So a 7 point win wouldn't cover either. Personally this game was a no play, and I was counting my winnings Sunday nights, but the fact GB covered doesn't make the pick any less square.
"Without an awful spot on 4th down..." are more famous last words of a square. All that matter are the points at the end.
It could also be "Square" to that, because even a FG wouldn't have mattered...
Plus, without an AWFUL spot on 4th down givin KC a free 1st down because they didn't measure for some reason and GB couldn't challenge...this was a 16 point win, which was still closer than this game was.
It was a 10 point game, with a field goal it would have brought it to 7. I just stated that the number in my area was -7' and -8. So a 7 point win wouldn't cover either. Personally this game was a no play, and I was counting my winnings Sunday nights, but the fact GB covered doesn't make the pick any less square.
"Without an awful spot on 4th down..." are more famous last words of a square. All that matter are the points at the end.
I think some of those people are just lazy cappers who really don't research the game well enough themselves. I personally lose confidence in a guy if he starts focusing on the "public money" or "sharps/squares", etc. I do pay attention to line movement, it does work well sometimes like Saturday when Michigan blew out BYU. You are bang on about the smart guys and playing the "big" games. The smartest sports bettors I know are finding soft lines on teams well below the radar and not prime time games where everyone is in on it.
I think some of those people are just lazy cappers who really don't research the game well enough themselves. I personally lose confidence in a guy if he starts focusing on the "public money" or "sharps/squares", etc. I do pay attention to line movement, it does work well sometimes like Saturday when Michigan blew out BYU. You are bang on about the smart guys and playing the "big" games. The smartest sports bettors I know are finding soft lines on teams well below the radar and not prime time games where everyone is in on it.
I think some of those people are just lazy cappers who really don't research the game well enough themselves. I personally lose confidence in a guy if he starts focusing on the "public money" or "sharps/squares", etc. I do pay attention to line movement, it does work well sometimes like Saturday when Michigan blew out BYU. You are bang on about the smart guys and playing the "big" games. The smartest sports bettors I know are finding soft lines on teams well below the radar and not prime time games where everyone is in on it.
Exactly. Some of the most successful and biggest bettors I know refuse to play a Thursday, Sunday or Monday night game because they understand how much time is putting into setting these lines...
But, they fire away and absolutely crush a 230 pm Saturday MAC game that they understand didn't get much thought into
I think some of those people are just lazy cappers who really don't research the game well enough themselves. I personally lose confidence in a guy if he starts focusing on the "public money" or "sharps/squares", etc. I do pay attention to line movement, it does work well sometimes like Saturday when Michigan blew out BYU. You are bang on about the smart guys and playing the "big" games. The smartest sports bettors I know are finding soft lines on teams well below the radar and not prime time games where everyone is in on it.
Exactly. Some of the most successful and biggest bettors I know refuse to play a Thursday, Sunday or Monday night game because they understand how much time is putting into setting these lines...
But, they fire away and absolutely crush a 230 pm Saturday MAC game that they understand didn't get much thought into
Exactly. Some of the most successful and biggest bettors I know refuse to play a Thursday, Sunday or Monday night game because they understand how much time is putting into setting these lines...
But, they fire away and absolutely crush a 230 pm Saturday MAC game that they understand didn't get much thought into
Right on. I'd rather pick off a game like Toledo over Arkansas St on Saturday instead of rolling the dice on the Colts covering against the Titans. That being said, there are some good spots in the NFL sometimes. I was pretty sure the Seahawks were going to take it out on and dominate da Bears! Bottom line is being selective.
Exactly. Some of the most successful and biggest bettors I know refuse to play a Thursday, Sunday or Monday night game because they understand how much time is putting into setting these lines...
But, they fire away and absolutely crush a 230 pm Saturday MAC game that they understand didn't get much thought into
Right on. I'd rather pick off a game like Toledo over Arkansas St on Saturday instead of rolling the dice on the Colts covering against the Titans. That being said, there are some good spots in the NFL sometimes. I was pretty sure the Seahawks were going to take it out on and dominate da Bears! Bottom line is being selective.
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