New England's defense and running game is not Houston's. The Pats are fantastic on offense but this is a good matchup for Baltimore on both sides of the ball
baltimore was 12-4 this year and three of their losses were complete no shows on the road following big divisional wins. they should have had 15 wins this year or 14 at worst
i will be on baltimore + the points and the ML as well as soon as my book posts it. Pinnacle had 9. I almost moved to Canada to place that wager
TE stats against the Ravens this year. pretty damn good. only 2 good games against, one from heath miller, the other gresham. so either they cover the TE well or every TE they played stunk. i bet the former
absolutely no feel on the giants/sf except you should not look at the regular season game as a barometer. giants had just beaten the pats and played philly the next week. the playoffs are completely different
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i figured this line at 4, maybe i'm crazy
New England's defense and running game is not Houston's. The Pats are fantastic on offense but this is a good matchup for Baltimore on both sides of the ball
baltimore was 12-4 this year and three of their losses were complete no shows on the road following big divisional wins. they should have had 15 wins this year or 14 at worst
i will be on baltimore + the points and the ML as well as soon as my book posts it. Pinnacle had 9. I almost moved to Canada to place that wager
TE stats against the Ravens this year. pretty damn good. only 2 good games against, one from heath miller, the other gresham. so either they cover the TE well or every TE they played stunk. i bet the former
absolutely no feel on the giants/sf except you should not look at the regular season game as a barometer. giants had just beaten the pats and played philly the next week. the playoffs are completely different
Utmost respect for you KOAJ but I disagree. This line is 9 for a reason. Pats D is absolutely suspect but their run game is a bit better then people perceive it to be and the overall offense speaks for itself. On the flip side of that coin you've got a Baltimore D that isn't as good as it's reputation suggests that might be without Ed Reed. Additionally I have a hard time believing that Flacco and Co. will be able to trade blows with Brady's offensive unit. A few other factors to consider are that the Patriots have one more day then the Ravens to prepare and there is a serious revenge factor in play. To me the line of -9 speaks volumes. I think most people would assume it would be under a TD and the -9 feels like Vegas will get people taking the large number with Balty only to be disappointed. BOL next weekend pal.
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Utmost respect for you KOAJ but I disagree. This line is 9 for a reason. Pats D is absolutely suspect but their run game is a bit better then people perceive it to be and the overall offense speaks for itself. On the flip side of that coin you've got a Baltimore D that isn't as good as it's reputation suggests that might be without Ed Reed. Additionally I have a hard time believing that Flacco and Co. will be able to trade blows with Brady's offensive unit. A few other factors to consider are that the Patriots have one more day then the Ravens to prepare and there is a serious revenge factor in play. To me the line of -9 speaks volumes. I think most people would assume it would be under a TD and the -9 feels like Vegas will get people taking the large number with Balty only to be disappointed. BOL next weekend pal.
Utmost respect for you KOAJ but I disagree. This line is 9 for a reason. Pats D is absolutely suspect but their run game is a bit better then people perceive it to be and the overall offense speaks for itself. On the flip side of that coin you've got a Baltimore D that isn't as good as it's reputation suggests that might be without Ed Reed. Additionally I have a hard time believing that Flacco and Co. will be able to trade blows with Brady's offensive unit. A few other factors to consider are that the Patriots have one more day then the Ravens to prepare and there is a serious revenge factor in play. To me the line of -9 speaks volumes. I think most people would assume it would be under a TD and the -9 feels like Vegas will get people taking the large number with Balty only to be disappointed. BOL next weekend pal.
I took the Ravens -8 and now I see a few books already down to 7..The over 7 points was pounded and rightly so...
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Quote Originally Posted by ratherBgambling:
Utmost respect for you KOAJ but I disagree. This line is 9 for a reason. Pats D is absolutely suspect but their run game is a bit better then people perceive it to be and the overall offense speaks for itself. On the flip side of that coin you've got a Baltimore D that isn't as good as it's reputation suggests that might be without Ed Reed. Additionally I have a hard time believing that Flacco and Co. will be able to trade blows with Brady's offensive unit. A few other factors to consider are that the Patriots have one more day then the Ravens to prepare and there is a serious revenge factor in play. To me the line of -9 speaks volumes. I think most people would assume it would be under a TD and the -9 feels like Vegas will get people taking the large number with Balty only to be disappointed. BOL next weekend pal.
I took the Ravens -8 and now I see a few books already down to 7..The over 7 points was pounded and rightly so...
I am curious why you would figure the line would be at four?
i guess it depends on how linesmakers read the public. honestly not sure how lines are made but i figure its a combo of power rankings and public perception trying to get even cash on both sides
public liked tebow a lot and saw 45 from brady. public saw a disgusting game from baltimore today and was willing to lay more than 4 points, more than 7 in fact
i think the matchup favors baltimore and especially ray rice and torrey smith. if Flacco plays a good game, Baltimore wins. they can throw deep, they can throw short, they can run and throw out of the backfield. as a ravens backer, i dont fear NE's defense and running game like i did houston's today, even with a rookie qb
if the line was 4 i stay away. i always try to figure what will make me stay away from a game and thats a good line in my own world. 4 i stay away, -2 i take NE, +7.5 i take baltimore
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Quote Originally Posted by beamjim:
I am curious why you would figure the line would be at four?
i guess it depends on how linesmakers read the public. honestly not sure how lines are made but i figure its a combo of power rankings and public perception trying to get even cash on both sides
public liked tebow a lot and saw 45 from brady. public saw a disgusting game from baltimore today and was willing to lay more than 4 points, more than 7 in fact
i think the matchup favors baltimore and especially ray rice and torrey smith. if Flacco plays a good game, Baltimore wins. they can throw deep, they can throw short, they can run and throw out of the backfield. as a ravens backer, i dont fear NE's defense and running game like i did houston's today, even with a rookie qb
if the line was 4 i stay away. i always try to figure what will make me stay away from a game and thats a good line in my own world. 4 i stay away, -2 i take NE, +7.5 i take baltimore
Regardless of the actual X's and O's, ya gotta think the line is slightly inflated.
New England/Tom Brady's reputation along with the beatdown they just handed Denver is adding a few points that otherwise wouldn't be. Of course that doesn't guarantee an ATS win, but there's definitely some value on Baltimore.
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Regardless of the actual X's and O's, ya gotta think the line is slightly inflated.
New England/Tom Brady's reputation along with the beatdown they just handed Denver is adding a few points that otherwise wouldn't be. Of course that doesn't guarantee an ATS win, but there's definitely some value on Baltimore.
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