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#26
Posted: 4/23/2012 11:44:36 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by woodsy5822:

jpero you really have no clue how to play.. BASIC strategy is a hit no a split... tell me why you want to split to 6's?? there are more sface cards in the deck than any other cards..do you really want 2 16s against the dealers 2??? no you dont. the 2 is not a break card for the dealer...you are 100 % wrong

 



Now fess up you are wrong and quit the bullshit.

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YOU SPLIT 6s vs a dealer 2. Learn to play basic strategy and stop infecting people's mind with wrong plays that limit their edge because you are wrong.
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Posted: 4/23/2012 11:53:51 AM
Just read what you wrote "do you really want to 2 16s against a dealer 2?"



You just said a 10 is going to come out... So in your theory breaking with a 22 is a better play then having a 16 vs a dealer 2.

And I know quite well a 2 is not a break card. 2 is a very dangerous card, somewhat of a wild card, and I have seen crazy things happen including the dealer drawing to 7 cards and hitting 21.

If you split 6s you have a very good chance of bettering your hand. You can get a double down opportunity or you can end up with a hand 13-17. Only cards 7-A (that is 5 cards) give you a hand of 13-17 while 5 cards (2-6) allow you to better your hand, potentially.
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Posted: 4/23/2012 12:26:41 PM
Be sure to play at tables with optimum rules - that is dealers stands all 17's, resplit aces, double any two and surrender.  Surrender is important - use it.

The house edge with proper rules and optimal play is only .21% I believe.  It's extremely low.  You really have almost as good a chance to win as lose.  And if you're betting enough to get comps and use those well, you're really not doing too badly at all.
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Posted: 4/23/2012 1:20:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jpero:





I get so much garbage from people when I split my 9s (except vs 7,10, A) and I just tell them its the right play.

Also get tons of garbage when I hit my 12s vs dealer 2s and 3s. I am consistent and always do it and it technically is the correct play. Only time I dont hit is when the deck is +2 or better.

I've been thinking, but can't figure out why 9's are a split vs. 8 or 9 but not a 7. Unless you meant 7-10 and not 7,10,A.

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Posted: 4/23/2012 2:10:39 PM
Your best bet is to buy a few book on BJ strategy. You need to learn basic strategy. There are a good dozen BJ books that tell you what you need to do on every single possible card combination, why you need to do it, what the odds are, etc. When you read it in terms of dollars it helps get the points across. Like why you split 88 against a dealer ten, sounds scary but once you read why its the correct move it becomes easier to accept.
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Posted: 4/23/2012 2:43:54 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Getty3:

I've been thinking, but can't figure out why 9's are a split vs. 8 or 9 but not a 7. Unless you meant 7-10 and not 7,10,A.



Easiest way to think of it is:

18 vs 7 (17 hypothetically) - no reason to split and possibly mess up a winning hand.

18 vs dealer 8 (18 hypothetically) push- So you split the 9s and based on there being more 10s in the decks you play to get 2 hands of 19 in simplest terms.

18 vs. 9 (19 hypothetically) - You are losing right now but if you split you can push or even win

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Posted: 4/23/2012 3:47:17 PM

jpero

 

i apoligize after you posted that link i did some investigation of my own... you are right that thats the play according to the book.im very surprised i consider myself as by the book as you can get. i hit my cards when im suppose to hit,i stay when im suppose to stay.. double down and split(except obviously in this case) when im suppose to.. etc..

 

that being said i dont agree with that play.. yes there is a solid chance i will bust hitting my 12...BUT i also wont have double the money up when i split 6s..which if we are honest.. a pair of 6s against a dealers 2 is a pretty shitty hand.. so why put more money on the table... id rather get more money on table when the dealer is showing 4,5,6.. thats when the player is at a real advantage..

from reading your other pasts i agree with every other strategy especially the 9's...

again i apolgize casue when i did the reasearch to my surprise your way was the play

 

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Posted: 4/23/2012 5:33:54 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by jpero:



Easiest way to think of it is:

18 vs 7 (17 hypothetically) - no reason to split and possibly mess up a winning hand.

18 vs dealer 8 (18 hypothetically) push- So you split the 9s and based on there being more 10s in the decks you play to get 2 hands of 19 in simplest terms.

18 vs. 9 (19 hypothetically) - You are losing right now but if you split you can push or even win

I didn't think hard enough. 
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Posted: 4/23/2012 10:54:54 PM

Never split 6's against a dealer 2.  You'll just lose more on the average.  If you do that all the time, you will lose more as opposed to just hitting the 12.  You would only hit it once because once you reach 13 you should stand against a dealer 2. 

As for betting systems, there are no successful betting systems out there unless can use a counting system.  Period.  This is an undisputable fact.

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Posted: 4/23/2012 10:59:58 PM
I stand corrected.  You actually SHOULD split 6's against a dealer 2.  My bad.
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Posted: 4/23/2012 11:09:54 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by woodsy5822:

 

you could not be anymore wrong.... a pair of 6's against a dealers 2 is a hit and a hit only.. not a split// learn to play

With all due respect you are wrong woodsy.  Look up basic strategy. 

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Posted: 4/23/2012 11:34:00 PM

      Why do I hear people saying all the time that there are more 10 value cards in a shoe than anything else?  There are only 16 of those in a deck of cards.  The other 36 cards (69% of the deck) are 2-9 and aces. 

     I hear people say this all the time and it simply isn't true.  I understand there are more 10's than 9's and that there are more 10's than there are 8's and so on, but at the same time, you only have a 31% chance of getting a 10 value card unless the count favors you.

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Posted: 4/24/2012 12:02:10 AM
My rules that I follow, that in the long run have served me well (don't get greedy).

1. I bet the min until I win the hand and the dealer busts, then I increase my wager (hoping I hit a streak and increase every bet even if the dealer doesn't bust, as BJ is streaky). If I push or lose, back to the min.

2. I follow the rules to the T. Rules

3. Exceptions to the rule. I strongly believe at least 1 card must be taken by someone in a hand, so if a dealer is showing a 3 and I have 13 and no one is going to hit, I will hit (first I say sorry to the table).

4. If people at the table don't know the rules, leave

5. If players are jumping in and out, I leave

6. I believe you need a certain number of people playing the same spots for streaks (yes, I know I can't prove this as everything is random, but it's what I prefer).  If we start losing, I will sit out or play two spots to change it up.

...and that's it.

I've sat at a BJ table and bet $15 for an hour, breaking even, down a little, dealer busts on your win (maybe a double down), I'll chance it and up my bets to $30, if I win, the $50, if I win, a $100, then maybe scale it back, but jump back up high if the dealer busts again. In a matter of 5 min, I can turn a roll of $200 to $700-800 if you're patient (and lucky), but usually can increase it to $400 then cash out.

Lastly, don't feel bad walking away at a high note. I've shocked the table when one a hand I'll end up splitting, double and win a few hundred on one hand and then cash out and whatever is left over continue better. If I lose it, walk away...
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