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Posted: 11/20/2011 12:11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ccbulldog:

I had Vandy as a pic em. So if the SEC rules the game a tie , I get a push.

 

Just when I thought when my IQ couldn't be any more supressed by continuing to read this thread, I read this post and am immediately proven wrong.

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Posted: 11/20/2011 12:11:55 AM

I had Vandy and felt that the refs were scared to make this call according to the rules.  I have seen several times not being able to everturn a call due to the ref blowing the whistle, the commentators were idiots as well, they had no clue that the whistel had blown and they too like these zebras must have had their xmas bonus on Ten, because they never mentioned the whistle after the call was made.  This game was fishy from the beggining for those of you who really paid attention.  Did anyone else notice on Vandys last poss when Rogers threw the ball out of bounds, the ball hit the ground and the clock ran off two extra seconds from like 24 seconds to 22 or something like that, someone was trying to tick off the seconds for sure.  In the end I felt like the refs were on Ten, as well as the crooked commentators.  Obviously the Tenn players knee didnt touch the ground, but it should not have been over turned due to the play being blown dead.  Obviously if I were on Ten, I would be ok with the outcome.  Goes both ways, I have won some games this way also.  Congrats to all the lucky Vol winners.  And I hope the refs get a pair of balls for xmas.

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Posted: 11/20/2011 12:16:12 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by canovsp:

NCAA Rules 3.1.2

 

ARTICLE 2. a. A live ball becomes a dead ball as provided in the rules or
when an official sounds his whistle (even though inadvertently) or otherwise
signals the ball dead (A.R. 4-2-1-II and A.R. 4-2-4-I).
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B-I-N-G-O

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Posted: 11/20/2011 12:24:11 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BigNiner:

The only people who got fucked were the under backers. The interception was an interception....Tennessee would have only had to kick a FG to win the game, so Vandy backers really have nothing to gripe over.

An easy FG, yeah, cause Vandy didnt block any FG's during this game...

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Posted: 11/20/2011 12:25:38 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Doghunter:

Tenn dominated the game if they didint throw a pick for 99 yds in the 3rd vandy would of never made it to ot.    Dudes knee was never down, darn that whistle excuse stuff


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Posted: 11/20/2011 12:40:22 AM
Wow, I can't believe you people.  You guys are complaining that an incorrect whistle that was blown should of been upheld.  Saying Vandy got hosed because a whistle that was blown, which CLEARLY shouldn't have been blown, got ignored.

The right thing happened in that game.  The defender picked it off, didn't touch the ground, and took it to the house.  TD.  Game over. Sorry you lost your bet.
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Posted: 11/20/2011 12:49:15 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by DanTos8715:

Wow, I can't believe you people.  You guys are complaining that an incorrect whistle that was blown should of been upheld.  Saying Vandy got hosed because a whistle that was blown, which CLEARLY shouldn't have been blown, got ignored.

The right thing happened in that game.  The defender picked it off, didn't touch the ground, and took it to the house.  TD.  Game over. Sorry you lost your bet.

Because when a whistle blows and the ref is marking the spot in the middle of the field and waving his hand, that means the PLAY IS OVER!!! Players are supposed to STOP playing at that moment. According to the rules of football, this game is still tied. Now weather the SEC will have the balls to do anything about it is another matter. Complicating that issue is both teams need a win to go bowling and a tie gives no one a win. Meaning the SEC would not be able to fill all it's bowls and lose $$$$. So I think we all know what that means. But in my mind this game is still tied .
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Posted: 11/20/2011 12:52:51 AM
The rule is, you shouldn't blow the whistle unless the players knee hits the ground.  Never came close.  The ref was blowing the whistle because and he couldn't even see the player from his view.  He was blocked by another player.  He made the wrong decision, and the right result came of it.
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Posted: 11/20/2011 1:10:40 AM
Sucks for baseball. Guy runs to first, clearly makes the tag but umpire calls it an out even with replay shown. That referee blew that whistle and it should've stood. Rules are rules, so why bother writing them off, even in this debacle of a game. 
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Posted: 11/20/2011 1:14:19 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by DanTos8715:

The rule is, you shouldn't blow the whistle unless the players knee hits the ground.  Never came close.  The ref was blowing the whistle because and he couldn't even see the player from his view.  He was blocked by another player.  He made the wrong decision, and the right result came of it.

It doesn't matter that the knee didn't hit the ground because he blew his whistle to STOP PLAY because he thought it did. Therefore, players stop playing and the play is DEAD. This game is still tied. I want to hear what bullshit the SEC is gonna come up with to explain this. 
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Posted: 11/20/2011 1:28:27 AM
yall are still arguing this garbage?
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Posted: 11/20/2011 1:35:28 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ccbulldog:


It doesn't matter that the knee didn't hit the ground because he blew his whistle to STOP PLAY because he thought it did. Therefore, players stop playing and the play is DEAD. This game is still tied. I want to hear what bullshit the SEC is gonna come up with to explain this. 

From what I seen, not 1 Tennessee player stopped playing.
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Posted: 11/20/2011 1:38:31 AM
in fact, 8 or so vandy players kept on playing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTAryBsTojo

4:00 minute mark

The fact that the refs initially called it a fumble is hilarious

poor job all around
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Posted: 11/20/2011 1:40:09 AM
I also never understood why you would blow a whistle on a questionable play.  Let it play out, then go back and correct the call after.
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Posted: 11/20/2011 1:45:06 AM

 

  TOUCHDOWN  TENNESSEE !    

 

 

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Posted: 11/20/2011 2:02:59 AM
The writing was on the wall at 21-14 when the crooks in striped shirts called running into the kicker on that missed Tennessee FG. The kicker's fall was a complete fake job and the Jerkoff that threw the flag knew it. Still, this fix wasn't nearly as bad as Boise.
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Posted: 11/20/2011 2:38:41 AM
They got the call right and that is what matters.
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Posted: 11/20/2011 3:25:02 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Jay4Prez:

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Posted: 11/20/2011 3:34:33 AM
Vandy backers deserve to lose this battle.. when you're dumb enough to bet for a team that is 1-27 the last 28 games.. You deserve all the bad garbage luck!!!
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Posted: 11/20/2011 10:01:54 AM

OK...  go easy....  I  will agree that a whistle blows the  play  dead. inadvertent or  not,,, the  play is  dead.  I  was  reacting to the comment that stated that the whistle was  not blown.What  was  announced by the  head refereee

Curles  addressed the Tennessee hometown crowd: "The previous play is under further review. Although the runner's knee was ruled down, there was no whistle or signal."

 

Then, today the SEC issued the foloowing  statement....

On the last play of the Vanderbilt-Tennessee game, in overtime, the Tennessee defender intercepted the pass, his knee did not touch the ground and he returned the interception for a touchdown. During the play, the head linesman incorrectly ruled that the Tennessee player's knee was down when he intercepted the pass by blowing his whistle and giving the dead ball signal. The play was reviewed as if there was no whistle on the field, and as a result, overturned the incorrect ruling. By rule, if there was a whistle blown, the play is not reviewable.

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Posted: 11/20/2011 11:14:58 AM

Ultimately...it is what it is and I'm over it. Wasn't expecting this thread to go this far, lol, I just couldn't resist complaining cause in 15 or so years of capping, I've never come close to as many BS losses as I have this season, and there's still a couple months to go lol.

Had a great day yesterday overall....so I'm over it.....but the fact remains that game was ultra sketchy and def shouldn't have ended how it did. My question now is what happens to the official? He blatently lied and told the head ref he never blew the play dead....that's crooked and he should be fired immediately for lying about a call he clearly made, right? My guess....nothing happens.

Oh well.....NFL Time! Good Luck today everyone!

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Posted: 11/20/2011 11:50:20 AM
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Posted: 11/20/2011 12:11:01 PM
Did any of you see the Vandy @ UF game?
Talking about bad calls. Vandy should have won that game.
As for this game. It is true once the whistle is blown the play is dead at that point. This is done for the players safety. Also once again I think there were a few questionable calls that went against both teams but Tenn was beneficial in bad calls throughout the game than was Vandy.
All that being said I do not understand why people whom bet on Vandy are so upset. Let's say that they call the play dead and hence no TD.
By OT rule Tenn would then take over at the 25 because Vandy got the ball first in this first OT. You have to think that they would have scored in some way barring a turnover.
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Posted: 11/20/2011 11:52:46 PM
Here it just for your douchebags that can't seem to understand the rules of college football.

KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - The Southeastern Conference says it incorrectly reviewed the final play of Tennessee's overtime win against Vanderbilt on Saturday night.

Eric Gordon intercepted Jordan Rodgers on the play and ran the ball 90 yards to the end zone for what ended up being the winning score in the Vols' 27-21 victory.

The officials first ruled Gordon down at the Tennessee 35 but overturned the call after the review.

SEC Coordinator of Officials Steve Shaw said in a statement that linesman blew his whistle when he thought Gordon's knee hit the ground. Shaw said that because a whistle blew, the play should not have been reviewable.

Had the play not been reviewed, Tennessee would have got the ball at the 25-yard line for its first offensive play in overtime.



There were multiple upsets in the top 10, the BCS is a mess and we saw the craziest endings so far. But unfortunately, outshining all of that for me was a very poor decision by officials in the Vanderbilt-Tennessee game that gave the Volunteers the victory.

Ironically, it was the right call; but according to the rules, it was all wrong.

Let me set the scene:

Vanderbilt had the ball, third-and-6 from the Tennessee 11-yard line with the score tied at 21 in the first possession of overtime.

Tennessee’s Eric Gordon intercepted Jordan Rodgers’ pass at the 10 and appeared headed for the 90-yard game-winning touchdown; however, the head linesman blew a whistle and signaled that Rodgers was down.

After a review, the play was reversed and Tennessee was awarded a touchdown and the game was over.

There are multiple issues here. First, it was an inadvertent whistle by the head linesman, who apparently did not step up and admit his error. Then, to make matters worse, the referee announced that there was no whistle and there was no signal, when clearly, there were both.

At the end of the day, they got it right. Tennessee deserved to win.


But you can’t set aside a rule, or a ruling that is made on the field, just to make it right.

The SEC is going to be forced to take some action. This reflects poorly on officiating on every level.

If you make a mistake, admit it. You have to step up when you make an error. Credibility and integrity are at stake.

The replay rule gives the replay official the option to correct an “egregious error,” even if it’s beyond the scope of the replay rules. I can’t see how that would apply here, because the whistle was blown and the signal was given at the 10-yard line. The play is essentially over at that point, and players who hear the whistle stop.

So based on the ruling, Tennessee should have gotten the ball at the 25-yard line for its overtime series.

The SEC issued a statement Sunday. Coordinator of Officials Steve Shaw said that the linesman blew his whistle when he thought Gordon's knee hit the ground. Because the whistle blew, Shaw said the play should not have been reviewable.

I feel horrible for that officiating crew, but somebody had to step up — and nobody did.


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Posted: 11/20/2011 11:58:52 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by archdriver:

I absolutley know the rule .... The whistle , if inadverdent, does not end the play.

You guys have absolutley zero knowledge if you think every whistle blows the play dead.

Simply put, it does not .

If you care to learn about football, you heard it here first.

You are dead wrong, if you think an inadverdent whistle stops the play.



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