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Posted: 11/16/2011 8:23:20 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by GameHunter:



Hey NRopp...it's a polish middle to me. If he lays 4 on UAB and lays 1 on Creighton and the game lands UAB 1 or 2, he loses both.....anyway, always good to see you...had us all scared with the Jimmy Hoffa rumors that you had disappeared earlier this year and may not be with us anymore....glad you are ok...

Anyway, I think Creighton has talent but has possibly one of the worst head coaches in Division 1 basketball. McDermott is clueless and was the worst hire possible. he has no game plan, doesn't communicate with his players and is hated. When he was at Iowa State, 29 out of 33 players left his program withour graduating and many transferred. Creighton probably has the best talent in the MVC this year but the real enigma is Gregory Ecehenique, who I feel could easily be a second round draft pick, but McDermott has no clue how to use him. He was the leading rebounder in the Bog East as a freshman and had all sorts of potential but McDermott uses him just 20 minutes a game. When he gets the ball, he is extremely efficient. Doug McDermott is possibly the best player in the Valley. Antoine Young is a very solid PG. He's not the better shooter in the world but has a very solid assist to turnover ratio. Jahenns Manigat has really stepped up his game early on and the Bluejays have a lot of depth. The one thing that hurt Creighton the most last year was they don't pressure the ball on defense and I think they ranked 2nd worst in the country in creating turnovers. McDermott has athletes and depth and needs to pressure the ball more. In addition, McDermott is horrible at making halftime adjustments and the Bluejays often struggled to score in the second half in games last year. Tonight's an interesting matchup as UAB has size upfront to offset Echenique, who has struggled in his first two games and I understand he is overcoming a concussion. Overall, I expect them to be 1st or 2nd in the MVC but they must pressure the ball and learn to play on the road. I lean towards Creighton +3 tonight. Best of luck!

On the same page. Especially the coaching situation.
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Posted: 11/16/2011 8:26:02 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by MattK:

Great write up Neil as always and love the plays!

I also like San Jose St +11.5, now I know San Jose St is playing 4 games in 8 days, but I can not believe this San Fran team is picked by this much.  I think these teams are pretty even with a slight edge to San Jose St.  I suppose there is a revenge factor as San Fran got beat by 10 last year, but 11.5 is still too many IMO.

Thoughts??

I think you got the right frame of mind. Just a matter of how much you think that revenge is worth. I personally wouldn't lay that much in just about any game, but I also couldn't back SJST with that defense.
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Posted: 11/16/2011 8:27:44 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by trackem:

nropp11,

I sent you a PM. f you get time, check it out.

Thanks for all your work

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Sorry, don't have much experience with the PM feature and don't use it often. Will check it out tommorow.

GL
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Posted: 11/16/2011 8:30:47 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

No SEMO?

 

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Need to see Geno's team. Got quite a few SEMO spots circled in OVC play.
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Posted: 11/16/2011 8:46:40 PM
any thoughts on pitt?
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Posted: 11/16/2011 8:51:23 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by swammi11:

any thoughts on pitt?

much better spots.
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Posted: 11/16/2011 9:26:08 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by GameHunter:



Hey NRopp...it's a polish middle to me. If he lays 4 on UAB and lays 1 on Creighton and the game lands UAB 1 or 2, he loses both.....anyway, always good to see you...had us all scared with the Jimmy Hoffa rumors that you had disappeared earlier this year and may not be with us anymore....glad you are ok...

Anyway, I think Creighton has talent but has possibly one of the worst head coaches in Division 1 basketball. McDermott is clueless and was the worst hire possible. he has no game plan, doesn't communicate with his players and is hated. When he was at Iowa State, 29 out of 33 players left his program withour graduating and many transferred. Creighton probably has the best talent in the MVC this year but the real enigma is Gregory Ecehenique, who I feel could easily be a second round draft pick, but McDermott has no clue how to use him. He was the leading rebounder in the Bog East as a freshman and had all sorts of potential but McDermott uses him just 20 minutes a game. When he gets the ball, he is extremely efficient. Doug McDermott is possibly the best player in the Valley. Antoine Young is a very solid PG. He's not the better shooter in the world but has a very solid assist to turnover ratio. Jahenns Manigat has really stepped up his game early on and the Bluejays have a lot of depth. The one thing that hurt Creighton the most last year was they don't pressure the ball on defense and I think they ranked 2nd worst in the country in creating turnovers. McDermott has athletes and depth and needs to pressure the ball more. In addition, McDermott is horrible at making halftime adjustments and the Bluejays often struggled to score in the second half in games last year. Tonight's an interesting matchup as UAB has size upfront to offset Echenique, who has struggled in his first two games and I understand he is overcoming a concussion. Overall, I expect them to be 1st or 2nd in the MVC but they must pressure the ball and learn to play on the road. I lean towards Creighton +3 tonight. Best of luck!

Coaching 101. McDermott goes to zone, which is a brilliant decision against a UAB team who has no outside presence. UAB fails to score a FG last 10:55 of 1H. McDermott comes out man-to-man 2H. Hasn't gone back to zone yet. LOL.
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Posted: 11/16/2011 9:28:09 PM
UAB storming back now...
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Posted: 11/16/2011 9:55:47 PM
good call on creighton nropp
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Posted: 11/16/2011 10:17:58 PM
Great call Neil
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Posted: 11/16/2011 10:23:39 PM
thanks Nropp - and great call w/ daily threads. definitely the way to go.
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Posted: 11/16/2011 10:33:13 PM
creighton
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Posted: 11/16/2011 11:49:31 PM
In college, players are just chess pieces. Coaches are the 'players'.
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Posted: 11/17/2011 12:24:59 AM
wow, now that's a tough beat... winning outright at the half only to let is slip away in the 2nd half and lose by the hook. I know they say the lucky wins and bad beats always even out, but it sure as hell doesn't seem like that. Hang with em bud
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Posted: 11/17/2011 12:26:58 AM

read today's post this evening and wound up getting hofstra +10.5 

better to be lucky than good sometimes.

don't post too often, but follow you closely neil.   thanks for all your efforts!

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Posted: 11/17/2011 12:36:03 AM
10.5? Where? I don't think that line hit 10.5 anywhere... at least not according to the line movements at any book i've seen. 10 i've seen, 10.5 I haven't
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Posted: 11/17/2011 12:54:17 AM

yeah bro, i spend my time lying about getting an extra half-point that nobody else got because it makes me feel good about myself. 

apparently, you didn't scour every single internet book.

 

Wager details for ticket number 25556281-1:

Wager Type: Spread (or run line)
Wager Status: Win
Risk / To Win Amount: 165.00 / 150.00 (USD) Accepted 11/16/2011 10:01 PM - EST
Won: 150.00
Amount Paid: 150.00
Sport / Period: NCAA Basketball / Game ( Hofstra: 72 - Oregon State: 82 )
Line:
Hofstra 11/16/2011 10:00:01 PM - (EST)
+10½ -110

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Posted: 11/17/2011 12:59:24 AM

here's one for you to chew on:  my biggest bet of the season (to date).

only showing you this to save you your time questioning the bet's legitmacy (or my veracity) when i post about being happy i won it.

Wager details for ticket number 25556573-1:

Wager Type: Spread (or run line)
Wager Status: Pending
Risk / To Win Amount: 2,750.00 / 2,500.00 (USD) Accepted 11/16/2011 10:59 PM - EST
Sport / Period: NCAA Basketball / Game ( San Jose State: 0 - San Francisco: 0 )
Line:
San Jose State 11/16/2011 11:00:01 PM - (EST)
+11½ -110

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Posted: 11/17/2011 10:39:19 AM
well done sir... glad you hit. 
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