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Posted: 5/24/2012 7:51:05 AM

How can the media so convincingly proclaim Tyson Chandler the Defensive Player of the Year

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The NBA coaches so clearly have Lebron as Defensive Player of the Year?.....note LBJ was on 1st Team all Defense and received the most votes......Chandler was on 2nd team all defense

Could it be that the media is biased and/or not a true subject matter expert when it comes to the NBA game

I feel LBJ may have been robbed of an objective panel ....man might of should of been defensive player of the year this year

For those that say no way

1.   Other SF shot 20% against LBJ this year

2.   He was top 3 or 4 in the league this year in steals

3.   Coach Spoelstra said and we witnessed LBJ guarding multiple positions this year....effectively

4.   Chase down blocks...which requires timing, athleticism, skill and speed....and he does this so well.

Media "hate" might of cost him this award.....can this award ever go to a non-center?

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Posted: 5/24/2012 7:55:32 AM
go lick LeBrick's person one more time
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Posted: 5/24/2012 7:55:46 AM
LeBron James is CLEARLY the best defensive player on the floor. He can stop/slow any player he is put on in a key moment at any position (see Derrick Rose/Carmelo Anthony for some examples).

The only explanation I can see for James not winning (and Chandler winning) is that James is not asked to play another's teams best player for long stretches during the regular season because of the energy it takes and probably gets more matchups that allow him to conserve some of his energy. Defense is Chandler's entire reason for being on the court so while I don't think there's any valid argument other than James being the best in the league defensively, I think the roles each play on their team played a role in the media's incorrect vote.
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Posted: 5/24/2012 7:57:29 AM
The more popular you are, the more the media wants to bring you down.......human nature to be jealous.......
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Posted: 5/24/2012 8:08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Mad_Skillz123:

go lick LeBrick's person one more time

Folks probably hated on MJ during the 80s and 90s and found themselves on the wrong side of sports history as MJ was annointed the best athete of past 100 years

I think the media comes up with a story 1st......1st!!!!   then they gather the facts to make their story come true

All year long they hyped Chandler....Dallas lost him ...Knicks got him....wow look at the Knicks defense (cant believe I even wrote that...Knicks "D")

Media had a bias.....as far as my writing about LBJ......well I feel I am on the right side of history

LBJ is da man in this league right now in the NBA....noone does as many things as does well

But for the sake of this thread.....I think he got hosed by the media for defensive player of the year

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Posted: 5/24/2012 10:09:06 AM

Who do you trust more to know......guys that are paid tons of money to coach the game of basketball or guys that are paid to write stories? Coaches clearly are way more in the know then media.

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Posted: 5/24/2012 1:06:10 PM
imo serge ibaka shoulda won defensive player of year, lebron is way overrated as defender cuz people always see his chase down blocks on sportscenter.  Dont get me wrong he is good but in no way impacts game as ibaka does or dwight lebron can take 1 person out of game where as ibaka patrols the whole paint and swats anything that comes to rim.  and u say he shut down rose why because rose missed a couple shots in lasts years playoffs he guarded him on a handful of possessions.  In no way should he have won defensive player of year seriously get off the guys person hes lucky he won mvp having 4th best record in league
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Posted: 5/24/2012 1:10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KobezKing:

imo serge ibaka shoulda won defensive player of year, lebron is way overrated as defender cuz people always see his chase down blocks on sportscenter.  Dont get me wrong he is good but in no way impacts game as ibaka does or dwight lebron can take 1 person out of game where as ibaka patrols the whole paint and swats anything that comes to rim.  and u say he shut down rose why because rose missed a couple shots in lasts years playoffs he guarded him on a handful of possessions.  In no way should he have won defensive player of year seriously get off the guys person hes lucky he won mvp having 4th best record in league

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Posted: 5/24/2012 1:14:20 PM
ct there is not 1 person on this whole site that blows lebron as much as you.  Guess wat out of the 3 main categories Pts reb an asst durant finished ahead of lebron in 2 of them with a better team record and with multiple game winning clutch shots.  What has lebron done in clutch im sorry he had 1 game where he took over in reg season against the nets.  Durant shoulda ben mvp and ibaka def player of year. Dude had trip dub with blocks and 2 gfames with over 10 blocks but im sorry they werent on sportscenter top 10 like every lebron play.  Like the other night for example on sportscenter top 10 lebron james falling out of bounds pass was number 1 and wades 3 quarter court 1 handed pass to lebron didnt even make top 10  which was a better pass than lebrons u guys wana say media hates on him r u guys serious i cant even watch sportscenter becuz all they do is feed u lebronits so annoyin the only reason people hate is becuz they shove lebron bein the greatest down ur throat.  The NBA has ben doin this for years now and lebron lets em down every year. I dont need some espn ancor thats neva played bball in life to tell me lebron is best player in league il judge for myself and i think its durant that doesnt make me wrong or u righjt its my opinion and durant has way bigger upside than lebron
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Posted: 5/24/2012 1:19:21 PM
and dont say record dont matter in mvp cuz if that was the case kobe bryant shoulda won mvp 4 str8 years Kobe  35.4 6 reb 5.6 asst  nash 15 pts 11 asst and wins mvp over bryant. The voters should forever b ashamed that kobe has only 1 mvp
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Posted: 5/24/2012 8:25:38 PM
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ct there is not 1 person on this whole site that blows lebron as much as you.  Guess wat out of the 3 main categories Pts reb an asst durant finished ahead of lebron in 2 of them with a better team record and with multiple game winning clutch shots.  What has lebron done in clutch im sorry he had 1 game where he took over in reg season against the nets.  Durant shoulda ben mvp and ibaka def player of year. Dude had trip dub with blocks and 2 gfames with over 10 blocks but im sorry they werent on sportscenter top 10 like every lebron play.  Like the other night for example on sportscenter top 10 lebron james falling out of bounds pass was number 1 and wades 3 quarter court 1 handed pass to lebron didnt even make top 10  which was a better pass than lebrons u guys wana say media hates on him r u guys serious i cant even watch sportscenter becuz all they do is feed u lebronits so annoyin the only reason people hate is becuz they shove lebron bein the greatest down ur throat.  The NBA has ben doin this for years now and lebron lets em down every year. I dont need some espn ancor thats neva played bball in life to tell me lebron is best player in league il judge for myself and i think its durant that doesnt make me wrong or u righjt its my opinion and durant has way bigger upside than lebron

I was curios what your response post would be...I was @ work and could not access covers.

I concede that Ibaka probably should be defensive player of the year..over LBJ.....but the coaches....THE COACHES...agree with me that LBJ is a stud on defense. Why did he get so many coaches votes as being a solid defender......the chase down blocks may be what makes espn highlights....but they have tracked LBJ all year and it revealed that SFs that he has defended revealed they shot 20% vs LBJ.......that is good ole fashion moving youir feet and contesting the shot defense....you may have missed that but the coaches did not.

Now you have to ask yourself why does the media cover this guy so much?   I think I know the answer....and you are right....I constantly post it on covers

the elephant in the room is that LBJ is to basketball what Hank Aaron was statistically to baseball.....he will break many records and/or be at the top of the charts across many basketball categories when it is all said and done.

As far as your comparison to KD...who I agree KD is a STUD.....LBJ beats him by far in efficiency rating...LBJ already has almost 5 of the top 10 most efficient seasons in NBA history.....the point I was trying to convey about LBJ and KD is

LBJ led the heat in pts, rebs, assts, steals and was probably 2nd on Heat in blocks.....KD did not lead OKC in all of those categories nor did any other player lead their team in that many categories....that , in my opinion, is the epitome of what am MVP is.

Why do I post so much about LBJ on covers......to offset the crazy negative and sometimes irrational (that was not a shot at you) commentary.....example....skip balyless espn 1st take said everyone is eligible for mvp except LBJ....STUPID irrational comment to me

Inside covers...folks have gone overboard with clutch....so I show up to provide factual stuff about the 3 time MVP

But sticking to oue debate....LBJ does more & leads the heat in more ways than KD does for the thunder.....the stats back that up

and dont give me that mythical media created clutch crap

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Posted: 5/24/2012 8:29:35 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Mad_Skillz123:

go lick LeBrick's person one more time



YOU ARE SUCH A LITTLE LITTLE MAN, SKILLZ

EXCELLENT POINTS OP
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Posted: 5/24/2012 9:24:42 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by KobezKing:

and dont say record dont matter in mvp cuz if that was the case kobe bryant shoulda won mvp 4 str8 years Kobe  35.4 6 reb 5.6 asst  nash 15 pts 11 asst and wins mvp over bryant. The voters should forever b ashamed that kobe has only 1 mvp


totally agree, this was highway robbery
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