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Posted: 1/15/2007 4:44:36 PM
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MrBator,I can't believe how secure you feel with that Indy play,nothing points to it being a easy play,I've been doing this for over 35 years, I don't feel like the Pats are a sure play either, but none the less they are the play.In any game where the favorite and the dog are a toss up grab the points and head to the bank.The Pats can win this outright,and more things point that way then Indy covering 3. We all know anything can happen, but the Colts just aren't bankable till they can win a playoff final to get to the superbowl.
 
 
 
 
The game is not a toss up.  Motivation is lopsided in this one.  Every football player will scratch and claw on the day he has a chance to earn a trip to the Super Bowl, but it's the Colts who will come out steaming while the Patriots will again try to "hang around and make some plays at the end."  That was their admitted strategy yesterday and that won't cut it this Sunday.
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Posted: 1/15/2007 4:45:44 PM
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golfa4            Maybe the prize is larger for Indy because since Manning has been there and done so well
                        but no ring. Brady has had his superbowls and New England might not be so hungry. Indy does
                        seem to be peaking. And you know about gambling, its our educated guess after caping. I thought New England looked good but not as crisp as San Deigo. I was sitting there yesterday with N.E and pts.   
 
                                        Thanks for posting
                         
 
                    
 
                        
 
 
 
Well said, stuff.
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Posted: 1/15/2007 4:46:22 PM
MRBator,
 
I have to admit it surprises me that someone
who exhibited the expertise you have, is going to ignore
all the past playoff history for the Colts(bad) and all the playoff
history for the Pats (good)
 
I mean I can see thinking the Colts are going to win
but you seem to know the Colts are going to win.
 
Even though I am going against you I admire
that kind of confidence!!
 
I have to be honest, the more pyschotic you are going on Indy,the more I
 like the Pats!
 
NOW who is the crazy one?
 
(and it is only Monday!!!)
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Posted: 1/15/2007 4:47:40 PM
Mr. B,
 
Thanks for the reply and your advice.
 
I am going to stick with the Pats and if they lose, it won't be the first,
nor the last time I was wrong!
 
 
 
You're a good man, TomCurtis, and this is becoming a pretty good thread.
 
 
 
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Posted: 1/15/2007 4:48:55 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by golfa4:

Stuff, I thought it was pretty clear that SD was the better team on the field yesterday, and thats just proof again that there is no more mentally tough team than the Pats. With the talent they do have and the obvious toughness, are why the Pats keep winning so many playoff games.Their a very special group!
 
 
 
 
With the way they were seemingly DETERMINED to self-destruct, the Chargers would have lost a close one to Chula Vista High.
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Posted: 1/15/2007 5:47:54 PM
Bator.

Have you placed your bet on this or are you wating for the juice to go down?
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Posted: 1/15/2007 5:56:50 PM
The sad thing is that those who choose to wait until the Superbowl to hop on the Colts moneytrain will get nowhere near the value that they did the last two weeks and this week.
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Posted: 1/15/2007 6:06:22 PM
TomCurtisNY    The intellectual pursuit non citizens refer to as handicapping/investing is quickly
                             coming to a halt. You have 5 days to cap 2 games,or 1 game. We'll toss this around and look up stats but don't be to hasty. The result is what we have at the end of this thread,gut feelings and stats. Mr. Bator
has had a really good education and can write,But slow down and wait until at least Friday to get down. I can tell from reading Mr. Bators line that he loves everybody and if he had his way we would all hit with our investments.
At least we know that that there is a great opportunity for investing money 1-21-07 LOL  Lots of Love
                                                           Down South..............
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Posted: 1/15/2007 6:14:12 PM
Crazy thread.... Looks like a stalemate.  Good thing the books allow players to bet on EITHER team.  Maybe if we lived in China or something, we would all be forced to bet on the same side.
 
 
 
 
 
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Posted: 1/15/2007 6:14:22 PM
Stuff,
 
I hear you but I have been doing this for some thirty odd years now.
 
One of the MANY costly lessons I have learned is, do not
over think a game.
 
There is no weather to factor soooooo.....
 
The trend is on New England, my play will be New England.
 
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Posted: 1/15/2007 6:17:00 PM
rad,
 
As Confucius says,
 
Even blocken crock is collect once a day.
 
I am that broken clock!
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Posted: 1/15/2007 6:17:16 PM
I mean twice a day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 1/15/2007 6:42:53 PM
mr bator i respect your knowledge ,but what makes a team great?The patriots
 have 3 superbowls under there belt in the last 5 years and still competing in the playoffs every year, if thats not great than i would like to know what is.Granted this years team might not be as good as some of the
past years,but i still believe there a great team.You cant compare them to teams from differant eras, cause
players back in the day dont have the size and speed that they have 2day.To me a great team answers the call,and the pats answer it when it matters.
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Posted: 1/15/2007 6:44:58 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TomCurtisNY:

MRBator,
 
I have to admit it surprises me that someone
who exhibited the expertise you have, is going to ignore
all the past playoff history for the Colts(bad) and all the playoff
history for the Pats (good)
 
I mean I can see thinking the Colts are going to win
but you seem to know the Colts are going to win.
 
Even though I am going against you I admire
that kind of confidence!!
 
I have to be honest, the more pyschotic you are going on Indy,the more I
 like the Pats!
 
NOW who is the crazy one?
 
(and it is only Monday!!!)
 
 
 
Tom, I'm aware of the playoff history, particularly between these two teams, but both times they met, it was in Foxboro and there was no question in my mind then that the Patriots had the better team.  I bet the Patriots for big money in both of those games and in fact, the Pats 20-3 home dog win in January of 2005 was my biggest straight bet ever (up to that point).  This time, though, it's the Colts who are the better team, its the Colts who are at home, and most importantly, this time its the Colts who want it more.  I have no doubt that Belichick will once again have his team prepared to play.  It won't do him any good.
 
 
 
I have to be honest, the more pyschotic you are going on Indy,the more I
 like the Pats!
 
 
Doesn't sound like a recipe for success.  I've been scorching hot for months on my top plays.  Maybe next year it won't be the same story, but right now it doesn't make sense to fade me.  The Patriots cannot win this game, Tom. 
 
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Posted: 1/15/2007 6:50:02 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TomCurtisNY:

Stuff,
 
I hear you but I have been doing this for some thirty odd years now.
 
One of the MANY costly lessons I have learned is, do not
over think a game.
 
There is no weather to factor soooooo.....
 
The trend is on New England, my play will be New England.
 
 
 
 
Right, winter weather won't be a factor.  Another advantage for Indianapolis!
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Posted: 1/15/2007 6:52:44 PM
Advantage Bator, Tom to serve.  Add out and break point.
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Posted: 1/15/2007 6:52:55 PM
I do not know how much an advantage the Colts will have facing Tom (10-0 in domes, 12-1 on turf) Brady
but you never know
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Posted: 1/15/2007 6:53:40 PM
For what it's worth MrB, I'm not gonna fade you!  And I realize that we are gambling.  Anything could happen.  That's why they call it gambling!  A person would have to be a moron to cuss someone out if they picked a game wrong and he lost money because he followed his advice.  IT'S GAMBLING.  And I've enjoyed some nice plays.  Thanks B.
 
Good luck this weekend! 
 
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Posted: 1/15/2007 6:54:08 PM
radi,
 
I beleive it is now deuce
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Posted: 1/15/2007 6:56:20 PM
I think that shot was out of bounds.... Isn't Peyton's record at home and inside his dome a lot stronger than Brady's?
 
Need Clarification but I think that ball was out.
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Posted: 1/15/2007 6:56:52 PM
Quick Timeout:  Hey Bator, Marquette or Louisville?
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Posted: 1/15/2007 6:59:45 PM
If that ball is out I want a new line judge.
 
As Johnny Mac would say (or scream) "what are you blind?
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Posted: 1/15/2007 7:05:43 PM
On the blackberry sitting on a plane checking covers. I do have issues. To the person who mentioned indy's home record, you may want to check what the charger home record was going into yesterday. Just tossin that out there. But I am with Bator on this one. Indy is the play. Bator have you released your early lean NFC style? If this paragraph comes out screwy sorry first post on phone. Good luck to all.
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Posted: 1/15/2007 7:07:30 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by march:

mr bator i respect your knowledge ,but what makes a team great?The patriots
 have 3 superbowls under there belt in the last 5 years and still competing in the playoffs every year, if thats not great than i would like to know what is.Granted this years team might not be as good as some of the
past years,but i still believe there a great team.You cant compare them to teams from differant eras, cause
players back in the day dont have the size and speed that they have 2day.To me a great team answers the call,and the pats answer it when it matters.
 
 
 
march,
 
You pretty much backed up my assertion that the Patriots are good but not great when you wrote:
 
Granted this years team might not be as good as some of the
past years
 
 
Right, several years ago they were great.  Now they just don't have the team, and the Colts do.
 
 
To me a great team answers the call,and the pats answer it when it matters.
 
march, the only reason the Patriots season isn't over right now is because Marlon McCree wasn't taught by the Schottenheimer coaching staff to BAT THE BALL DOWN ON 4TH DOWN.  If the Chargers weren't morons who all game long were looking for ways to lose, the Patriots would have lost decisively.  When Tom Brady threw that interception to McCree on 4th and 5 with 6:25 remaining in yesterday's game, the Patriots were a beaten team.  But by the grace of McCree's stupidity, they are alive today.  New England didn't advance because they are great, they advanced because the Chargers were friggin terrible. 
 
Get over this idea that the Patriots are some kind of band of unbeatable, unflappable playoff heroes who will always make the winning plays when it counts the most.  They will be down by at least 10 points late in Sunday's game, and maybe, just maybe, they might score to cut it under 10, but I doubt it.  And the game itself will not be in danger.
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