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Posted: 5/8/2012 2:15:41 AM
Definition of a Liberal - Open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values.

1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) relating to or having social and political views that favour progress and reform
2. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) relating to or having policies or views advocating individual freedom
3. giving and generous in temperament or behaviour
4. tolerant of other people
5. abundant; lavish a liberal helping of cream
6. not strict; free a liberal translation
7. (Social Science / Education) of or relating to an education that aims to develop general cultural interests and intellectual ability

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a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
c. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
d. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.
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a. Tending to give freely; generous: a liberal benefactor.
b. Generous in amount; ample: a liberal serving of potatoes.
3. Not strict or literal; loose or approximate: a liberal translation.
4. Of, relating to, or based on the traditional arts and sciences of a college or university curriculum: a liberal education.
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a. Archaic Permissible or appropriate for a person of free birth; befitting a lady or gentleman.
b. Obsolete Morally unrestrained; licentious.

Those of you who have seen my posts, know I'm not a democrat but
seems like a good word to me?
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Posted: 5/8/2012 7:02:17 AM

that definition does not fit the so called "liberals" i know

kinda like the word "conservative"

there aint a true one of either in the beltway

actions speak louder than words

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i take that back

b. Obsolete Morally unrestrained; licentious.

this fits, except it should read "morally obsolete"

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2. Not buying it.  Liberals love the Nanny state.  Govt control is not conducive to individual freedom. 

4. Tolerant of other people. Unless you are Christian, White, or dislike abortion. 

1A. Really ,  no Dogmas?  What about the man made global warming people? ,  Free from bigotry?   LAUGHABLE!



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Posted: 5/8/2012 8:06:31 AM
cannot speak for anyone else, but i loathe the idea, of being forced to subordinate to a higher power that steals my labor/money from me and liberally spends it away. modern day liberals, worship such a system as a religion
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Posted: 5/8/2012 10:22:23 AM
Modern society needs both liberals and conservatives.  But when either are in power, reality constrains ideology and they behave similar. 
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Posted: 5/8/2012 12:31:16 PM

Hmmm.

Liberal agenda that increases the cost of education while diminishing the effectiveness of such an education.

Does that mean that liberals want to make it more difficult for us to be educated or is it just ignorance to the inderect effects of their policies/agenda?

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Posted: 5/8/2012 12:38:13 PM
but
seems like a good word to me?

so is darn ..... it also has lots of meanings and uses , also is used a lot and also offends a lot of people..... 
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Posted: 5/8/2012 1:16:21 PM

My definition of a liberal...One who loves all people..tries to avoid war unless absolutely neccesary, but will fight if they must..Loves freedom and believes government protects those freedoms. 

When one loves people, they want all people to prosper, they hate things that harm people, like guns, murderers, rapists etc. And they hate greed. They are saddened by abortion, but believe every women has that right, and that God will punish accordingly.

 

My definition of a conservative = To conserve to ones self.

They want all they can get regardless of who they hurt. They want government out of the way so they can get more for themselves. They will kill anything that gets in their way. They no regard for animals, just another meal. Except dogs. they love dogs because dogs protect them and property. They want POWER, and control of the world, and are willing to nuke anybody.

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Posted: 5/8/2012 1:43:24 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by don juan:

My definition of a liberal...One who loves all people..tries to avoid war unless absolutely neccesary, but will fight if they must..Loves freedom and believes government protects those freedoms. 

When one loves people, they want all people to prosper, they hate things that harm people, like guns, murderers, rapists etc. And they hate greed. They are saddened by abortion, but believe every women has that right, and that God will punish accordingly.

 

My definition of a conservative = To conserve to ones self.

They want all they can get regardless of who they hurt. They want government out of the way so they can get more for themselves. They will kill anything that gets in their way. They no regard for animals, just another meal. Except dogs. they love dogs because dogs protect them and property. They want POWER, and control of the world, and are willing to nuke anybody.



in other words- Jesus.  don juan is Jesus.  it isn't tebow after all. 

why do rightwingers hate Jesus?


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Posted: 5/8/2012 2:01:52 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by don juan:

My definition of a liberal...One who loves all people..tries to avoid war unless absolutely neccesary, but will fight if they must..Loves freedom and believes government protects those freedoms. 

When one loves people, they want all people to prosper, they hate things that harm people, like guns, murderers, rapists etc. And they hate greed. They are saddened by abortion, but believe every women has that right, and that God will punish accordingly.

 

My definition of a conservative = To conserve to ones self.

They want all they can get regardless of who they hurt. They want government out of the way so they can get more for themselves. They will kill anything that gets in their way. They no regard for animals, just another meal. Except dogs. they love dogs because dogs protect them and property. They want POWER, and control of the world, and are willing to nuke anybody.


Liberal and Conservative has different meanings depending on the context.

When speaking about politics, at least when it comes to fiscal issues, I would define a liberal as someone who thinks we should look to the government for answers. I would define a conservative as someone who thinks we should look to the individual.
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Posted: 5/8/2012 2:22:07 PM

4. tolerant of other people

Yes, just try and have a conservative speak at a college campus, tell them that gays shouldn't marry, or say that there is no such thing as global warming and watch how "tolerant' they are.

 


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QUOTE Originally Posted by 14daroad:

4. tolerant of other people

Yes, just try and have a conservative speak at a college campus, tell them that gays shouldn't marry, or say that there is no such thing as global warming and watch how "tolerant' they are.

 




that gays shouldn't marry speech is better received at the weekly klan meetings.  i wouldn't branch out too far with it.


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that gays shouldn't marry speech is better received at the weekly klan meetings.  i wouldn't branch out too far with it.


Er, every state in America, including conservative bastions of CA & Maine, that has voted on the happy marriage issue has voted against it.

So, we'll mark your comment as epic fail. Ok?

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yes, happy marriage is illegal in a lot of states but there are also a lot of inbred religious freaks out there, a lot of insecure closet person rightwingers and other people who discriminate to make them feel better about themselves.  and as i mentioned, the gays shouldn't marry speech would be better received with those groups. 
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Posted: 5/8/2012 2:59:12 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

yes, happy marriage is illegal in a lot of states but there are also a lot of inbred religious freaks out there, a lot of insecure closet person rightwingers and other people who discriminate to make them feel better about themselves.  and as i mentioned, the gays shouldn't marry speech would be better received with those groups. 


Thank you for proving my point.

Me: Liberals aren't at all tolerant, just tell them that gays shouldn't marry.

You: Name call.

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Posted: 5/8/2012 3:04:41 PM
finally, one thing we agree on.  i'm not at all tolerant of racists/bigots and have no problem calling them out.  it's probably why we always argue. 
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Posted: 5/8/2012 6:32:25 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by don juan:

My definition of a liberal...One who loves all people..tries to avoid war unless absolutely neccesary, but will fight if they must..Loves freedom and believes government protects those freedoms. 

When one loves people, they want all people to prosper, they hate things that harm people, like guns, murderers, rapists etc. And they hate greed. They are saddened by abortion, but believe every women has that right, and that God will punish accordingly.

 

My definition of a conservative = To conserve to ones self.

They want all they can get regardless of who they hurt. They want government out of the way so they can get more for themselves. They will kill anything that gets in their way. They no regard for animals, just another meal. Except dogs. they love dogs because dogs protect them and property. They want POWER, and control of the world, and are willing to nuke anybody.

liberals love other peoples money

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Posted: 5/8/2012 7:24:45 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by don juan:

My definition of a liberal...One who loves all people..tries to avoid war unless absolutely neccesary, but will fight if they must..Loves freedom and believes government protects those freedoms. 

When one loves people, they want all people to prosper, they hate things that harm people, like guns, murderers, rapists etc. And they hate greed. They are saddened by abortion, but believe every women has that right, and that God will punish accordingly.

 

My definition of a conservative = To conserve to ones self.

They want all they can get regardless of who they hurt. They want government out of the way so they can get more for themselves. They will kill anything that gets in their way. They no regard for animals, just another meal. Except dogs. they love dogs because dogs protect them and property. They want POWER, and control of the world, and are willing to nuke anybody.


Right out of 1984  
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Posted: 5/8/2012 8:49:15 PM
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liberals love other peoples money

 

Now do you all see what I mean about conservatives ? They actually think liberals want their money.

Roost, have you ever considered that your taxes pays for your own pleasure and protection.. Roads, bridges, police, firemen, military, schools, teachers ?  But NOoooo. You are what I thought you were !

 

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Posted: 5/8/2012 9:20:03 PM
I don’t like the idea of government waste either.

I noticed the “tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others” and “dogmas; free from bigotry.” Parts are the things that sparked laughter.

I’m for freedom of religion, just keep it out of politics, and don’t force it on others. Also, practice what you preach and realize god was against bigotry, racism, and was for free will. People are against white supremacists, white republicans, white conservatives, white bigots, white confederates, and white racists. It is those types of whites, which make whites look bad.

Of course, people are going to be angry with those who want to use the government to enforce abortion laws. Those who are against abortion are authoritarians who want to control another person’s right to do with their body as they please. When I see people come out so aggressively against the idea of global warming, it disturbs me because they are not educated, to form an opinion on the subject, and it makes me question their psyche and mental capacity.

Unless you’re a scientist and a physicist, you shouldn’t even speak on global warming. The idea the conservative republicans think they know more than a physicist is hysterical. The idea that people should be tolerant of simpletons, bigots, racists, and screaming hate mongers is ignorant and insane.

Canovsp – I like your explanation.
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Posted: 5/8/2012 9:50:57 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by don juan:

 

Now do you all see what I mean about conservatives ? They actually think liberals want their money.

Roost, have you ever considered that your taxes pays for your own pleasure and protection.. Roads, bridges, police, firemen, military, schools, teachers ?  But NOoooo. You are what I thought you were !

 

you forgot abortions and needless wars

not just my taxes

every unborn child will owe 138,000+++ when they come crying out of their mothers vagina

maybe they do want to be aborted

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Posted: 5/8/2012 9:58:05 PM

13 trillion in debt and the roads are garbage, the bridges are crumbling, police are being laid off and not aresting white mexicans, military is an over extended black hole of waste, schools are now prisons of a failed system, teachers are too busy molesting the kids they teach, the kids are dumber than ever

id say im not getting any pleasure or much protection

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Posted: 5/9/2012 8:19:39 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rooster010:

13 trillion in debt and the roads are garbage, the bridges are crumbling, police are being laid off and not aresting white mexicans, military is an over extended black hole of waste, schools are now prisons of a failed system, teachers are too busy molesting the kids they teach, the kids are dumber than ever

id say im not getting any pleasure or much protection

Actually you are being protected, and you have the pleasure of driving around safely. And Obama tried to repair roads and bridges but was halted by the party of NO. Police are still at the border, but drugs are still coming because selfish people are buying them. Good teachers are working for less but you only hear of a couple o bad ones because you're a negative person who loves to put everyone down.

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