Have you joined the pro abortion movement today?

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Posted: 5/1/2012 1:30:02 PM
why not?  there's still time.

make abortions harder to get, create more crime, so we need bigger government, more government programs, we need more money allocated to police and prisons.  i see what those ultra liberals in conservative clothing are doing to increase government and make themselves essential. 

obama's 2013 budget, like bush's before him, calls for approximately $25 for the war on drugs.  and $0 for the pro abortion movement.  i see what they are doing making it harder for women to choose abortion.  damn liberals.
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Posted: 5/1/2012 1:59:22 PM

Know this ain’t the point, and I’m missing the sarcasm.

 

“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”

 

I got plenty of faults, but I’m gonna judge anyway.

 

What kind of woman would ingest opiates when pregnant knowing it might damage her kid?

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Posted: 5/1/2012 2:09:35 PM
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Posted: 5/1/2012 2:18:39 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by captjohn67:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-KDCBb2Y4mhbmYY/the_big_lebowski_1998_bunny_has_been_kidnapped/

 

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Posted: 5/1/2012 2:58:33 PM

obama's 2013 budget, like bush's before him, calls for approximately $25 for the war on drugs.  and $0 for the pro abortion movement. 

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Are you seriously suggesting Obama's budget doesn't contain funding for Planned Parenthood?

Are you just lying or engaging in satire?

make abortions harder to get, create more crime

Your link had nothing to do with crime and further there is no correlation between the two (abortion & crime rates).

 

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Posted: 5/1/2012 3:04:52 PM
planned parenthood is pro choice.  we are pro abortion. 

the link didn't mention crime, but to make the correlation between unwanted babies, drug dependent babies and shitty parents and crime, you may have to exercise in a little something some of us call, independent thought.  i'm not sure you're going to find a link to help you with that. 
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Posted: 5/1/2012 3:11:20 PM

I am both pro life and pro choice.

Pro choice- before conception.

Pro life- after conception.

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Posted: 5/1/2012 3:20:49 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:

I am both pro life and pro choice.

Pro choice- before conception.

Pro life- after conception.



Your satire is pathetic... Go have sex with your aunt or something
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Posted: 5/1/2012 3:28:42 PM

 The thing that most people do not understand about the abortion issue is this.... American women WANT THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE.   Just ask republican appointed Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Conner .

 

I am AGAINST ABORTION MYSELF and against government providing .. But the majority of women want that right !

The answer is in preventing unwanted pregnancies, and setting up adoption programs ...not fighting about it election after election. Sometimes I wonder if repulsicans really want to solve the matter, they do not want the issue to go away.

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Posted: 5/1/2012 3:32:08 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by Stiln:



Your satire is pathetic... Go have sex with your aunt or something

I like you stiln. You remind me of when I was young and stupid.

Do you even comprehend how intelligent you aren't?

 

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Posted: 5/1/2012 5:11:53 PM
the link didn't mention crime, but to make the correlation between unwanted babies, drug dependent babies and shitty parents and crime, you may have to exercise in a little something some of us call, independent thought.

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Um, this silly line of "independent thought" presumes that "shitty parents" and those doing drugs have abortions.

Further, there are a whole range of groups that keep statistics on such things and your post reflects there are no statistics.

Want to guess why that is?

planned parenthood is pro choice

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 98% of the services Planned Parenthood perform on pregnant women are abortions.

So you keep telling yourself that.

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Posted: 5/1/2012 5:28:24 PM
Um, this silly line of "independent thought" presumes that "shitty parents" and those doing drugs have abortions.

no, this statement presumes, well proves actually, that you didn't understand my post, which is the norm for you. 

however, if you have ranges of groups keeping statistics that contradict my point, i'd be happy to look at them.  since you didn't understand my point, let me restate it.  what i meant was there is a correlation between unwanted babies/drug dependent babies/shitty parents who have no business having babies and crime.  now, i'm not sure how your ranges of groups producing statistics will measure the shitty parent who shouldn't have kids factor or the unwanted baby factor, but inaccuracy has never inhibited you from posting so it shouldn't be an obstacle for you now. 

as for planned parenthood, whether you call pro choice or pro abortion or anything else, i'm all for it. 




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Posted: 5/1/2012 5:58:07 PM
Definitely, 

Forced sterilization for anyone under the poverty line.

Especially minorities,  the jails are filled with them, so that must mean they are inherently evil.  I say we re-start the Negro project.  
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Posted: 5/1/2012 6:13:50 PM
 what i meant was there is a correlation between unwanted babies/drug dependent babies/shitty parents who have no business having babies and crime

Like this?


 African-American women account for 36.4 percent of all pregnancy terminations in the United States, although blacks make up only 13 percent of the population
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Posted: 5/1/2012 6:15:56 PM
The biggest determining factor in whether or not one completes high school or goes to jail is whether or not they grow up in a 2 parent home.

Now you seem to be making the argument that if you don't grow up "wanted" or with parents who aren't "shitty" then you should die.

Good luck with that, you little Hitler.
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Posted: 5/1/2012 6:17:09 PM
the abortion rate among black women is roughly triple the national average.

And since if you're black you're more likely to commit a crime, you're ok with this outcome, right clubdirt?
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Posted: 5/1/2012 6:22:11 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by don juan:

 The thing that most people do not understand about the abortion issue is this.... American women WANT THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE.   Just ask republican appointed Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Conner .

 

I am AGAINST ABORTION MYSELF and against government providing .. But the majority of women want that right !

The answer is in preventing unwanted pregnancies, and setting up adoption programs ...not fighting about it election after election. Sometimes I wonder if repulsicans really want to solve the matter, they do not want the issue to go away.

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Posted: 5/1/2012 7:26:16 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rick3117:

Definitely, 

Forced sterilization for anyone under the poverty line.

Especially minorities,  the jails are filled with them, so that must mean they are inherently evil.  I say we re-start the Negro project.  


rick, don't fall into the trap of completely ignoring the women's right to choose aspect of the debate.  you're better than santorum. 

14daroad, i'm not going down that road with you.  save that for your next klan meeting.
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Posted: 5/1/2012 7:44:09 PM
I am not ignoring women's right to choose. 

I am against anything "pro-abortion"
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Posted: 5/1/2012 7:55:44 PM
Club, don't bother with all the zealots that have occupied this thread. They want infants to suffer.
 
Just imagine how fucked in the head you gotta be to actually believe that "God" wants helpless defenseless infants to suffer.
You make a mockery of what the real meaning of "morality" really is.
You gotta be a sick darn to want infants to suffer. 









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Posted: 5/1/2012 7:59:58 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rick3117:

I am not ignoring women's right to choose. 

I am against anything "pro-abortion"


since there is still hope for you to become an official Church of ClubDirt card carrying pro abortion movement member, i will clarify the pro abortion movement.  it does not mean we believe anyone should have an abortion who doesn;'t want one.

after handling thousands of criminal cases at this point, if you asked me the most common characteristic among criminals, far away it would be parents who are gone, don't pay child support, don't support the kid financially/emotionally, etc, parents who basically don't give a garbage and act like a kid is more of a burden than anything else. 

therefore, the pro abortion movement does mean every women who wants or needs an abortion should have one (with very few restrictions) and anyone on the fence between abortion and no abortion should feel equally free to choose either option.  so pro abortion largely refers to, if you want one, by all means get one.
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Posted: 5/1/2012 8:01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



rick, don't fall into the trap of completely ignoring the women's right to choose aspect of the debate.  you're better than santorum. 

14daroad, i'm not going down that road with you.  save that for your next klan meeting.

These are facts that I’m sure none of us like. But they’re facts, however uncomfortable.

 

Let’s thinks of solutions rather than the all too prevelant racist accusations.

 

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Posted: 5/1/2012 9:04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



since there is still hope for you to become an official Church of ClubDirt card carrying pro abortion movement member, i will clarify the pro abortion movement.  it does not mean we believe anyone should have an abortion who doesn;'t want one.

Here's the thing:

a right winger opposed to abortion is often also opposed to the following:

-additional funding for welfare

-additional funding for state-run orphanage/adoption programs

-additional educational funding for afterschool programs

-additional funding for childcare programs

-additional funding for health care programs

statistically (because daroads comment on the racial disparity in abortions is correct) children whose parent would have been more likely to seek an abortion while disproportionally require the above.

What becomes the solution? It cannot be the old adage of 'don't get pregnant.' In real life, Superman cannot spin around the Earth and turn back time.

 

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Posted: 5/1/2012 9:22:27 PM
it doesn't make sense to limit funding for those programs dj mentioned but to keep feeding people into those programs by restricting abortions.  that's the pseudo conservative position.  we're going to pay one way or another.  if not into education and prevention, then we pay to make government, law enforcement bigger and to build more prisons.  why we insist on spending so much money on law enforcement, prisons, government, etc. at the expense or education and treatment/prevention is beyond me. 

14daroad's race stats may be true but my position is that people who want abortions should get them regardless of race.  kids growing up in the environment i mentioned above often turn out bad regardless of race.  nobody should have more or less access and right to an abortion due to race.  i would argue it's more of a socioeconomic issue but in relation to my abortion position, it's irrelevant.  everyone gets the same choice and access.  
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Posted: 5/1/2012 10:06:55 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by djbrow:

Here's the thing:

a right winger opposed to abortion is often also opposed to the following:

-additional funding for welfare

-additional funding for state-run orphanage/adoption programs

-additional educational funding for afterschool programs

-additional funding for childcare programs

-additional funding for health care programs

statistically (because daroads comment on the racial disparity in abortions is correct) children whose parent would have been more likely to seek an abortion while disproportionally require the above.

What becomes the solution? It cannot be the old adage of 'don't get pregnant.' In real life, Superman cannot spin around the Earth and turn back time.

 


Good use of the word additional 
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