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#76 Posted: 3/27/2012 9:20:44 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by djbrow:
Do you notice again that you are the only one calling names?
Are you suggesting that arresting officers or officers at the scene are trained not to discuss the case with a suspect?
So all of those cases of Miranda and in-custody when the suspect is in a police car are all an aberration?
You don't happen to have a link that says that it is standard practice for officers at a crime scene to NOT question the suspect do you? 
Since I've seen many cases on the show "The First 48 Hours".
I am inclined to beleive that most serious questioning is done at the police station, in the interview rooms, where there is audio and video recording devices. |
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#77 Posted: 3/27/2012 9:28:22 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:
Since I've seen many cases on the show "The First 48 Hours".
I am inclined to beleive that most serious questioning is done at the police station, in the interview rooms, where there is audio and video recording devices.
There are various times of questioning of suspects. The most important thing to remember is pre-Miranda is generally going to yield more information than post.
But it depends on the charge and the case.
Officers are trained to obtain as much information at the scene as possible under the circumstances. The simple reason is it is almost all inculpatory and almost always admissible.  |
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#78 Posted: 3/27/2012 9:30:39 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:
I see an expert on police dispatchers jobs now
do you know if that dispatcher is actually a trained police officer assigned to dispatch? Do you also know if the supervising police officer in the dispatch room made that call?
Face you are not an expert on every subject.
You continue to act like a douchebag.
I happen to know for fact that dispatchers don't need to be trained as police officers and also that it is not against the law to disobey a dispatcher. Ruckin fetard.
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#79 Posted: 3/27/2012 9:40:12 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:
You continue to act like a douchebag.
I happen to know for fact that dispatchers don't need to be trained as police officers and also that it is not against the law to disobey a dispatcher. Ruckin fetard.
A dispatcher has no way to show a badge for verification. umbdass
hey dumbass, once again you are wrong. A lot of police departments actually use police officers as their dispatchers and even if they are just civil dispatchers, there is always a supervising officer in the dispatch room, to over see all calls coming in. So once again dickhead, stick to driving trucks. Its so comical how you think you know the exact detail of other occupations, when all you know how to do is for a living.
Were you really born this dumb or did all the behind beat downs you got on your way to school give you brain damage?
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#80 Posted: 3/27/2012 9:42:03 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by djbrow:
There are various times of questioning of suspects. The most important thing to remember is pre-Miranda is generally going to yield more information than post.
But it depends on the charge and the case.
Officers are trained to obtain as much information at the scene as possible under the circumstances. The simple reason is it is almost all inculpatory and almost always admissible. 
DJ, dont bother, he gets all his expert info watching cop shows
my guess is he straps on his toy gun and badge while watching the shows
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#81 Posted: 3/27/2012 9:44:55 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:
hey dumbass, once again you are wrong. A lot of police departments actually use police officers as their dispatchers and even if they are just civil dispatchers, there is always a supervising officer in the dispatch room, to over see all calls coming in. So once again dickhead, stick to driving trucks. Its so comical how you think you know the exact detail of other occupations, when all you know how to do is for a living.
Were you really born this dumb or did all the behind beat downs you got on your way to school give you brain damage?
Look dumbass.
On the official call mr Z made there were no transfers to a supervisor so it was a regular pee on dispatcher that told him...
"We don't need you to do that" notice nobody ever said
"Dont follow him" or anything close to that.
HE WAS TOLD THAT HE DIDN'T NEED TO FOLLOW not YOU ARE INSTRUCTED NOT TO FOLLOW.
Get it pumkin?
Good. fkin sit down and shut up.
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#82 Posted: 3/27/2012 9:50:06 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:
DJ, dont bother, he gets all his expert info watching cop shows
my guess is he straps on his toy gun and badge while watching the shows
Duely noted that because your debating skills are sub par you always resort to trying to belittle me in some way.
Beating the insurance thing to death even though most people agree that car/home insurance is a good thing. Trying to say that anyone needs to have an engineering degree to see a pothole or lack thereof. I don't think that ignorance makes your folks proud of you. |
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#83 Posted: 3/27/2012 9:56:54 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:
Look dumbass.
On the official call mr Z made there were no transfers to a supervisor so it was a regular pee on dispatcher that told him...
"We don't need you to do that" notice nobody ever said
"Dont follow him" or anything close to that.
HE WAS TOLD THAT HE DIDN'T NEED TO FOLLOW not YOU ARE INSTRUCTED NOT TO FOLLOW.
Get it pumkin?
Good. fkin sit down and shut up.
First off dickhead, you are once again making a complete fool of yourself on a subject you know nothing about. 1, do you know if the dispatcher was a police officer or civil dispatcher? no 2.do you know what the supervising officer int he room was telling the dispatcher? no
now shut the darn up, you really are a dumb person.
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#84 Posted: 3/27/2012 9:59:06 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:
First off dickhead, you are once again making a complete fool of yourself on a subject you know nothing about. 1, do you know if the dispatcher was a police officer or civil dispatcher? no 2.do you know what the supervising officer int he room was telling the dispatcher? no
now shut the darn up, you really are a dumb person.
It really doesn't fuckin matter dumbass because MR Z is not going to be charged with 'Disobeying a dispatcher'.
The only thing that matters is that he was NEVER told NOT to follow the subject. NEVER.
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#85 Posted: 3/27/2012 10:01:32 PM CD if you had any common sense at all you would not get caught up in the stuff that doesn't even matter. Just like a little kid that can't see the big picture.
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#86 Posted: 3/27/2012 10:05:23 PM Post #2 says it all The rest is just fodder |
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#87 Posted: 3/27/2012 10:05:30 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:
Duely noted that because your debating skills are sub par you always resort to trying to belittle me in some way.
Beating the insurance thing to death even though most people agree that car/home insurance is a good thing. Trying to say that anyone needs to have an engineering degree to see a pothole or lack thereof. I don't think that ignorance makes your folks proud of you.
lmfaooooooooooo you think roads only need to be repaired because you see a pothole. Did you ever think that road on your street that got repaired when your expert road repair disagreed with the repair, might have got redone, because the company used faulty materials or a ton of other reasons. Its funny how you are on a gambling forum complaining about a road in your neighborhood that got redone when you didnt think it was needed, yet you didnt march your behind down to any city, county or state offices to find out why? That makes you a lazy piece of garbage in my book and a guy who just likes to sit on his front porch complaining and crying about everything, but never actually jumping in and doing something about it. You go ahead and keep crying about it on covers, that should get your problem solved, meathead.
As far as this insurance stuff. The insurance industry is one of the most corrupt industries in the entire world and all the salesman are nothing but modern day snake oil salesmen, who would sell earthquake insurance to their own Mothers in New York, JUST TO GET THEIR COMMISSION. In battle of slimeballs insurance agents vs car salesman, insurance agents probably win the slimeball title
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#88 Posted: 3/27/2012 10:09:04 PM Watch the last word with Lawrence odonnell and you can see some smear taking place |
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#89 Posted: 3/27/2012 10:12:53 PM Zimmerman has a black male friend who is defending him and odonnell is accusing him of all sorts of stuff. It's like a public crucification of his friend. |
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#90 Posted: 3/27/2012 10:14:04 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:
lmfaooooooooooo you think roads only need to be repaired because you see a pothole. Did you ever think that road on your street that got repaired when your expert road repair disagreed with the repair, might have got redone, because the company used faulty materials or a ton of other reasons. Its funny how you are on a gambling forum complaining about a road in your neighborhood that got redone when you didnt think it was needed, yet you didnt march your behind down to any city, county or state offices to find out why? That makes you a lazy piece of garbage in my book and a guy who just likes to sit on his front porch complaining and crying about everything, but never actually jumping in and doing something about it. You go ahead and keep crying about it on covers, that should get your problem solved, meathead.
As far as this insurance stuff. The insurance industry is one of the most corrupt industries in the entire world and all the salesman are nothing but modern day snake oil salesmen, who would sell earthquake insurance to their own Mothers in New York, JUST TO GET THEIR COMMISSION. In battle of slimeballs insurance agents vs car salesman, insurance agents probably win the slimeball title
Off topic and I was talking about a freeway not a road in my city. And if the materials lasted 3 years with very little damage, I bet you could correctly summize that the materials were not faulty. Dumbass.
Beat it to death. Thats all you got on me mr NO COMMON SENSE. |
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#91 Posted: 3/27/2012 10:17:46 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:
Off topic and I was talking about a freeway not a road in my city. And if the materials lasted 3 years with very little damage, I bet you could correctly summize that the materials were not faulty. Dumbass.
Beat it to death. Thats all you got on me mr NO COMMON SENSE.
lmfaooooooooooo the expert on wrongful firings, unions, police and firefighter jobs, road repair, police dispatchers, arena football money matters, etc etc etc all while never having a job in your life, outside of sitting at a desk and shuffling papers. Did you get all these expert credentials watching TV shows?
I told you what you are an expert at 
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#92 Posted: 3/27/2012 10:28:53 PM U would think Zimmermans friend pulled the trigger. I can't stand to watch this it's a friggin joke line of questioning. This is a sad portrayal of our society |
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#93 Posted: 3/27/2012 10:30:39 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:
lmfaooooooooooo the expert on wrongful firings, unions, police and firefighter jobs, road repair, police dispatchers, arena football money matters, etc etc etc all while never having a job in your life, outside of sitting at a desk and shuffling papers. Did you get all these expert credentials watching TV shows?
I told you what you are an expert at 
Any dumbass would remember that I worked at Alcoa for nearly 15 years. Matter of fact. You and I talked about it yesterday.
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#94 Posted: 3/27/2012 10:41:50 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:
Any dumbass would remember that I worked at Alcoa for nearly 15 years. Matter of fact. You and I talked about it yesterday.
Do you have alzheimers?
No i have a great memory. I realized the alcoa thing was just make believe. I think thats why you are mad at unions, you couldnt get a union job at that plant. Honestly i dont think you are an insurance agent.
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#95 Posted: 3/27/2012 10:46:41 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:
No i have a great memory. I realized the alcoa thing was just make believe. I think thats why you are mad at unions, you couldnt get a union job at that plant. Honestly i dont think you are an insurance agent.
Only mad at unions because they bilk our municipalities out of extra jingle they don't have. 
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#96 Posted: 3/27/2012 11:21:03 PM Yup all the unions fault same broken record
I know we should just pay cops and firefighters 10 bucks an hour, with no health insurance, vacation days or pension plans thats more then fair for those type of jobs. They are simple jobs
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#97 Posted: 3/28/2012 5:40:21 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by DiscoD69:
nickel please. 
I'm giving the idea of patience and courtesy for 14 a bad name... 
Gladly, might I add.
Disco murder suicide happened here in Winnipeg the other day why don't you spin this maybe he was a Conservative.
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#98 Posted: 3/28/2012 5:55:43 AM Disco Inferno = left wing nut job |
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#99 Posted: 3/28/2012 6:06:27 AM Disco the 7 Eleven was robbed last night quick make a thread thread and spin this into another political cause. |
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#100 Posted: 3/28/2012 8:30:16 AM do you know if the dispatcher was a police officer or civil dispatcher? no
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It doesn't matter. The suggestion from the police dispatcher that he not pursue Martin was not some sort of a lawful order he must obey, and in any case, Zimmerman claims to have complied .
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