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#1 Posted: 3/24/2012 2:46:35 PM
It's 80 degrees 2 1/2 weeks into March but Management makes Troopers sweat in long sleeves...
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - Ohio state troopers are
hot under the collar in a dispute over who determines when they can
switch from long-sleeved to short-sleeved uniforms.
The Columbus Dispatch newspaper reports (http://bit.ly/GI5nfE ) record-high spring temperatures prompted the troopers' union to request the change earlier than specified in their contract.
Patrol superintendent Col.
John Born told the union on Thursday the troopers could switch early
only if management gets to make the call in future years. Troopers opted
to stick with long sleeves and ties.
The contract says short-sleeved, open-collared uniforms can be worn from April 15 to Nov. 1.
Union president Larry
Phillips says when the long-sleeved Ohio State Highway Patrol uniform is
worn with a tie and a protective vest, a trooper's body temperature
rises "significantly," especially in 80-degree weather.
A patrol spokeswoman says the superintendent is following the contract.
I don't blame the Troopers. They've learned the hard way too many times before, NEVER GIVE THESE MANAGEMENT PRICKS COMPLETE CONTROL because they will darn YOU EVERY TIME POSSIBLE BY WANTING TO CONTROL EVERYTHING.
Better to suck it up for a couple weeks and stay in control of your work environment.
Good choice Troopers. 
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#2 Posted: 3/24/2012 3:16:33 PM If they were non-union they wouldn't need to be going through this contract bs.
The union that is supposed to protect them ended up screwing them. HMMMM |
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#3 Posted: 3/24/2012 3:32:49 PM
Better yet, lose the ties and wear open collar year round.
Let Management wear ties year round in their heated and air conditioned offices.
The public should want their State Troopers as comfortable as possible year round because their lives are on the line, day in and day out, so darn the ties completely. Let the Management pricks wear the ties.
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#4 Posted: 3/24/2012 3:39:45 PM
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#5 Posted: 3/24/2012 4:03:36 PM |
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#6 Posted: 3/24/2012 5:18:35 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by rick3117: Don't staties get to sit in air conditioned cars anyway?
They can be in and out quite a bit.
This sounds like petty BS, but when you are in a stressful job already, you don't need little daily aggravations. Management could have easily relaxed the requirements without playing any games.
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#7 Posted: 3/24/2012 6:24:08 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:
They can be in and out quite a bit.
This sounds like petty BS, but when you are in a stressful job already, you don't need little daily aggravations. Management could have easily relaxed the requirements without playing any games.
You don't get it at all. Its in the contract. The union isn't gonna let anything slide thats in the contract either. |
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#8 Posted: 3/24/2012 7:22:31 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit: If they were non-union they wouldn't need to be going through this contract bs.
The union that is supposed to protect them ended up screwing them. HMMMM
you just cant find enough things to bash unions for, can you? The insurance fuckin crook bashing people who are out trying to save lives and put crooks in jail and you want to bash them over this.
I truly hope and am going to pray every night that you get hot with so much bad karma in your life, because you really are a solid person with this non union crap.
I notice how you never said one word about the non union workers who got fired for wearing orange shirts to work, even thou there was no rule against doing it.
Yup get rid of the rights of workers and just let management be able to fire somebody for wearing a color shirt they didnt like that.
The same way you got fired form the plant, i hope you get canned from the insurance company.
So go ahead keep bashing the people who put their lives on the line protecting little desk jockey pussies like you.
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#9 Posted: 3/24/2012 7:25:02 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:
You don't get it at all. Its in the contract. The union isn't gonna let anything slide thats in the contract either.
This is really a matter of just plain common sense. You would think management would want their officers not over heated, but bash away, desk jockey. Get any papercuts this week working in that dangerous environment you work in?
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#10 Posted: 3/24/2012 7:26:11 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:
You don't get it at all. Its in the contract. The union isn't gonna let anything slide thats in the contract either.
Union contracts are amended all the time when needed.
You act like Management was making some HUGE concession that was going to cost them time and/or dollars.
Well IT WILL. You don't think the Troopers will remember this slap in the face??? That sword cuts both ways. The Troopers will now feel obligated to deny any Management request now, even if it is reasonable.
Q) Where does that get anybody?
A) Nowhere
No question Management looks like BIG TIME fool here.
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#11 Posted: 3/24/2012 7:38:19 PM Ironoic how unions can't always promote unity.
This situation should be amended & Management does look assholish in this case.
I can't believe cd. is going to pray that bowl. get hot with bad karma ! |
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#12 Posted: 3/24/2012 7:39:39 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:
This is really a matter of just plain common sense. You would think management would want their officers not over heated, but bash away, desk jockey. Get any papercuts this week working in that dangerous environment you work in?
It is very much common sense. Its in the contract that they have to wear long sleave shirts for two more weeks.
The union swas dumb enough to allow that language in the contract.
Management probably considers how the relationship has been over the last few months. (How many questionable/trivial grievances were filed) Then they determine if they will look the other way or not.
Common sense would say they should look the other way on this. Unless one or more of the stewards has been a pain in the behind of management. Then common sense would say they should wait until they are not contractually obligated.
Either way, I wish everyone was born with common sense. Oh well!
p.s. Notice CD offered no argument again? Notice CD tried to take a stab at my chosen profession again? |
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#13 Posted: 3/24/2012 7:40:53 PM 
I even proofread that booger and missed it. |
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#14 Posted: 3/24/2012 7:46:48 PM I notice how you never said one word about the non union workers who got fired for wearing orange shirts to work, even thou there was no rule against doing it.
CD I have never been fired from a job and never had the mentallity that I needed other people to represent ME.
I believe in an employers right to fire anybody for any reason.
I could be wrong but it looks like there is something else going on with those that were fired from the law firm. |
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#15 Posted: 3/24/2012 8:04:27 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:
I notice how you never said one word about the non union workers who got fired for wearing orange shirts to work, even thou there was no rule against doing it.
CD I have never been fired from a job and never had the mentallity that I needed other people to represent ME.
I believe in an employers right to fire anybody for any reason.
I could be wrong but it looks like there is something else going on with those that were fired from the law firm. Really ? Any reason ? ! |
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#16 Posted: 3/24/2012 8:12:26 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by OakleyDoak:
Really ? Any reason ? !
Can you believe this clown? Thats right, he wants our workers to have no friggin rights and get fired for anything the boss wants to fire you for. Yup maybe the boss doesnt like the car you drive to work, so out you go. Maybe the boss doesnt like that you are a democrat, so out you go. etc etc
This clown could be one of the biggest jerkoffs to have ever posted on this site.
He wants everybody fired because he got fired from the plant and now his occupation is robbing people on a daily basis from his 4x4 cubicle. I cant wait until he gets canned from this job.
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#17 Posted: 3/24/2012 8:14:56 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by OakleyDoak: ironoic I even proofread that booger and missed it.
No worries it is only the really pathetic people on this site that embarrass themselves and as a last ditch effort desperately are
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#18 Posted: 3/24/2012 8:46:07 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by OakleyDoak:
Really ? Any reason ? !
Can a worker quit for any reason?
Why not have the playing field even? |
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#19 Posted: 3/24/2012 8:49:55 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by OakleyDoak:
Really ? Any reason ? !
I was assuming you would assume that I was talking about the current legally reasons you can be fired.
I do not belive a person can be fired for religion, race, creed, etc.
I believe a person should be able to be fired if they are a douche bag. Sorry DL. |
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#20 Posted: 3/24/2012 8:54:25 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:
Can a worker quit for any reason?
Why not have the playing field even?
are you really serious with this post or just trying to stir the pot.
That is like a night and day comparison
comparing a person quitting a job to letting an employee having any rights on the job.
Honestly this could be your worst post on this site
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#21 Posted: 3/24/2012 8:58:31 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:
are you really serious with this post or just trying to stir the pot.
That is like a night and day comparison
comparing a person quitting a job to letting an employee having any rights on the job.
Honestly this could be your worst post on this site
Really?
You act like having a job is a right rather than a priveledge. You should check into that further.
So a small company cannot be screwed over by having the employee quit in an untimely manner? |
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#22 Posted: 3/24/2012 9:43:11 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:
If they were non-union they wouldn't need to be going through this contract bs.
So if they were non-union does that mean they would have their choice? Or do think maybe they would have a dress code imposed by management?
The union that is supposed to protect them ended up screwing them. HMMMM
So you assume the union was the one to put that in the contract.Have a link to back it up? Seems your hatred for the unions has clouded your judgement. |
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#23 Posted: 3/24/2012 9:45:39 PM
I think Marines still can.
Some asshat general decided that it would be good to show camaraderie with our brothers over-seas if we don't roll up our sleeves.
now you can only roll your sleeve 2 inches from your wrist, and even that is taboo.
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#24 Posted: 3/25/2012 1:08:34 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by darkhorse12:
I think if they weren't unionized and therefore had no contract, perhaps it would just be a standard and left up to individual divisions. Officers in that division could decide ( as a group ) if they were gonna go short or long sleeves
I would imagine that it is management that wanted it in the contract. Not the smartest standard for the rule. They could have had temperature or left an option for a vote or something.
I also would imagine that the union steward is probably a thorn in the side of management already or they would have possibly made an exception. Depends on if the union cries like a baby all the time or not. IMO |
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#25 Posted: 3/25/2012 1:13:15 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:
Really?
You act like having a job is a right rather than a priveledge. You should check into that further.
So a small company cannot be screwed over by having the employee quit in an untimely manner?
So CD...you didnt answer my question.
Is having a job a priveledge or a right?
Since workers can quit without notice and potentially screw the company over. Companies should be able to fire without cause.
Most companies would be stupid to fire the good/smart workers. So whats the problem? |
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