Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
I think cops and firefighters should get a sustainable decent wage.
How is a cops or firefighters level of danger different then a truck driver's? Truck drivers die on the job all the time. Firefighters do dangerous work...so do roofers...or most contractors.
A police officer statistically speaking, be involved in one or two shootings (actually pulling the trigger) in their entire career. A roofer or truck driver actually may have a more dangerous job.
Many teachers are good. I encountered far too many teachers that weren't worth their weight in poo. Teachers should be paid based on effectiveness not in tenure. Its for the kids right?
What makes you think I don't see both sides simply because I don't agree with you?
Your friend could not have gone to internal affairs in the first place?
And no...our economy can't support people retiring in their 40's and not to mention double dipping. That is a huge reason that California is in financial trouble. They are the large scale example of the pension headache.
I’ll give you an example my friend was in the force for 20 years and under his 20 years, he lost four fellow officers. Why I hate the drug war is because all of their lives were lost because of the war on drugs. I will share one example.
My friend’s partner was on duty around 3am and saw a man swerving in and out of traffic. He pulled him over and started walking towards the car and pop pop pop he was shot twice in the chest and once in the head and took off.
Luckily another cop was on the same road, saw the car take off, and caught up to him. The reason he was swerving was that he was nervous when he saw the cop and he killed my friend’s partner because was he had weed on him and didn’t want to go to jail. My friend has gone into pitch-black houses and has been shot at multiple times. Botched robbery attempts and been in multiple knife and gunfights.
Truck drivers drive for a living. Cops protect people and put others lives before their own. I can’t believe a person can even think that way. I have had my right’s violated and had my ass beat by cops and I am still smart enough to know they put their lives on the line on a daily basis. Yeah because we all know those truck drivers, roofers, and contractors are shot at and have to deal with psychos on a daily basis.
Teachers unions make the lives of teachers better and give them protection but the system can be abused. You see the theme I have been trying to get across on this thread? Everything is susceptible to corruption and including free markets and that is why unions were created in the first place.
You don’t see both sides even a single bit. If you did, you would see why it needs tweaking and doesn’t need to be discarded.
The police chief hires internal affairs officers. Internal affair officers are to make sure police officers do their job, treat civilians with proper respect, and don’t break laws. Not to make sure a cops boss doesn’t wrongfully fire cops and black ball other cops. You see even internal affairs has flaws but is necessary.
I’m done with this thread…
The reason California is in trouble, just like the rest of the Untied States, is because both republicans and democrats wasting money on bullshit. Every time I listen to politicians, it’s about re-writing history, stopping minorities, mexicans, gays, marriage, enforcing values, global warming, birth control, abortion, pointless wars on culture, terror, drugs, and christmas. Instead of moving forward, focusing on real issues, and fixing the United States.