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Posted: 2/21/2012 6:35:49 PM
Yep, the man faked documents from the Heartland institute and all the major media ran with his fakes.  A sort of retraction now from the NY Times.

 Andrew Revkin of theNew York Times now writes:

Peter H. Gleick, a water and climate analyst who has been studying aspects of global warming for more than two decades, in recent years became an aggressive critic of organizations and individuals casting doubt on the seriousness of greenhouse-driven climate change. He used blogs, congressional testimony, group letters and other means to make his case.

Now, Gleick has admitted to an act that leaves his reputation in ruins and threatens to undercut the cause he spent so much time pursuing. ...

One way or the other, Gleick’s use of deception in pursuit of his cause after years of calling out climate deception has destroyed his credibility and harmed others. (Some of the released documents contain information about Heartland employees that has no bearing on the climate fight.) That is his personal tragedy and shame (and I’m sure devastating for his colleagues, friends and family).

The broader tragedy is that his decision to go to such extremes in his fight with Heartland has greatly set back any prospects of the country having the “rational public debate” that he wrote — correctly — is so desperately needed.

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Posted: 2/21/2012 8:38:29 PM

Another climate AGW warmist goes down like the Hindenburg ...

Following his admission, Gleick's resignation was accepted by the National Center for Science Education.

...and his name has been removed from a Task Force on Scientific Ethics at the American Geophysical Union (AGU), a prominent science organization..........

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Posted: 2/21/2012 8:48:57 PM
Gleick, doing the job other scientist won't do to keep government grants flowing ...
 
Reminiscent of Dan Rather's - Fake but True memo.. .
 
 
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Posted: 2/21/2012 10:13:35 PM
The Caped Climate Crusader ......
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Posted: 2/21/2012 10:13:57 PM
drJ, I appreciate you  posting about this topic in a mature way rather then another classless juvenile attempt at a weather utilized by the partisan aliases...


Perhaps if KKkroger could have stopped his history of multiple classless racist and bigoted posts/threads he would not have gotten himself banned...



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Posted: 2/21/2012 11:23:23 PM
oh dl, Kroger is just a passionate man who gets excited.  we all make mistakes but he made too many, didnt know he was banned, i thought a hiatus? or banned?.
 i think we're polluting the planet but the real issue is whether or not the co2 shows exponential warming as predicted.  it seems to be a milder trend but the debate rages on.

im just reporting someone faking issues to prove his point which is not ethical at all.
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Posted: 2/22/2012 12:18:38 AM
its funny that when another well known racist alias had the kfc hat avatar you took exception to it....

he got boxed for dropping an n-bomb... and then his continued bigoted posts/threads even after warned...

I really have a problem with his view along with others that GOP/right winged is some how related with racism and that you must be on board with it...  It kinda reminds me of what KOAJ always talks about in terms of conservatism being mixed with theocracy and intrusive regulation and taking away of rights and freedoms...

I agree with you that we are polluting the planet and I think it is a complex interaction/interdependence...  I also thought that any claims that co2 emissions being related to temperature is going to be effected by the volcanic eruptions in Europe that increases particles in the air resulting in less sunlight coming through as what happened with  the famous krakatoa eruption... 

So to isolate temperature as the only symptom for an awareness of environmental issues is as ludicrous as talking about a isolated day or temperature as the partisan SAFs have done over and over and over


It is interesting to me that there are groups of people that back science/medicine and there are groups of people that oppose/fear/reject science and medicine...  Like when it comes to stem cell research and watching peyton and other athletes have to go outside of the country to get treatment...

But because it is based on prescribed partisan perception and scripted reaction the prospects on a "rational debate" are impossible... just spewing more rhetoric and Spin...

it is funny how threads in this forum get so cluttered with posts, the majority of which are partisan aliases that are basically just dropping leaflet of propaganda and Spin.... While quality posters like yourself, rick, skeltooth and others cant compete with the partisan attention person


the KKkroger alias is not passionate about the issues, if not he would have engaged passionately in discussions... He was more about just being in the Frontrow and Center of attention

Or a better metphor might be that he lights the weed in the bong or pipe trying to pass around what he is smoking... and once the bowl is lit there are certain posters that cant hit it enough...




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Posted: 2/22/2012 12:51:00 AM
I am not an n bomb fan, thats richard a ?  delivered in anger.  played many a hoops game with black dudes that said it all the time but not said to a black dude.
i never saw that from kroger but i cant say i paid attention to those conversations once two people were fighting. 
hope you are well and happy dl36.  I have been very very busy.
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Posted: 2/22/2012 1:31:28 PM

Posted by DL36

<<I agree with you that we are polluting the planet and I think it is a complex interaction/interdependence... I also thought that any claims that co2 emissions being related to temperature is going to be effected by the volcanic eruptions in Europe that increases particles in the air resulting in less sunlight coming through as what happened with the famous krakatoa eruption...>>

So my argument in another thread about the volcanoes swayed you?

In that thread you tried to make me look like a fool when I pointed out that volcanoes have spewn crap into the atmosphere for thousands of years.

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Posted: 2/22/2012 3:13:58 PM
What is hilarious to me is the number of news papers etc that have rushed to Gleik's defense because he did it for such a noble cause.  Holy crap, think of how it would be spun if it was a right wing fake like this
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Posted: 2/22/2012 3:17:54 PM
not surprised to hear this
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Posted: 2/24/2012 3:05:21 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:

Posted by DL36

<<I agree with you that we are polluting the planet and I think it is a complex interaction/interdependence... I also thought that any claims that co2 emissions being related to temperature is going to be effected by the volcanic eruptions in Europe that increases particles in the air resulting in less sunlight coming through as what happened with the famous krakatoa eruption...>>

So my argument in another thread about the volcanoes swayed you?

In that thread you tried to make me look like a fool when I pointed out that volcanoes have spewn crap into the atmosphere for thousands of years.



looks like I have a stalker


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Posted: 2/24/2012 3:13:08 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by drJ:

I am not an n bomb fan, thats richard a ?  delivered in anger.  played many a hoops game with black dudes that said it all the time but not said to a black dude.
i never saw that from kroger but i cant say i paid attention to those conversations once two people were fighting. 
hope you are well and happy dl36.  I have been very very busy.



I hope things have well, just didn't see you around for a while... I know you had some health issues so I am glad to see you okay and back posting...

RitardA was an racist alias... so was KKkroger...

RitardA was also a cut and paste alias... so was KKkroger...

The whole site knows about the SAFs (acronym)...  and the few Slimeballs that constant try to "bail them out"...   you just got to see for yourself... once you realize that the dozen or so accounts that come in and out of the forum are really the same 2 or 3 people you get the picture...

That is why you see them cycle and with KKkroger getting banned you should be and should have seen some accounts/aliases coming to the forum...  stay here long enough and you will know like everyone else about the SAFs... because it is always the same cut/paste and talking points... and the same posters that constantly try to give them the "bail out" to certify them as aliases...

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Posted: 2/24/2012 4:09:16 AM
I hope if warms the souls of the 300 Europeans that have died of hypothermia recently to hear this fraud exposed. 
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Posted: 2/24/2012 11:21:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dl36:




I hope things have well, just didn't see you around for a while... I know you had some health issues so I am glad to see you okay and back posting...

RitardA was an racist alias... so was KKkroger...

RitardA was also a cut and paste alias... so was KKkroger...

The whole site knows about the SAFs (acronym)...  and the few Slimeballs that constant try to "bail them out"...   you just got to see for yourself... once you realize that the dozen or so accounts that come in and out of the forum are really the same 2 or 3 people you get the picture...

That is why you see them cycle and with KKkroger getting banned you should be and should have seen some accounts/aliases coming to the forum...  stay here long enough and you will know like everyone else about the SAFs... because it is always the same cut/paste and talking points... and the same posters that constantly try to give them the "bail out" to certify them as aliases...

Covers knows

He has been around for a long time.

What about your alias? I'm sure DrJ knows that you spend most of your threads calling people stalkers or aliases and little time...as van smak would say..."Having a take"

There certainly are many more topics than your usual and Sarah Palin and the Teaparty are not ''hot stove' anymore.

Please explain why you said I was a fool for bringing up volcanoes influence months ago but now you agree that volcanoes have contributed to air quality?

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Posted: 2/24/2012 12:13:24 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by dl36:

its funny that when another well known racist alias had the kfc hat avatar you took exception to it....

he got boxed for dropping an n-bomb... and then his continued bigoted posts/threads even after warned...

I really have a problem with his view along with others that GOP/right winged is some how related with racism and that you must be on board with it...  It kinda reminds me of what KOAJ always talks about in terms of conservatism being mixed with theocracy and intrusive regulation and taking away of rights and freedoms...

I agree with you that we are polluting the planet and I think it is a complex interaction/interdependence...  I also thought that any claims that co2 emissions being related to temperature is going to be effected by the volcanic eruptions in Europe that increases particles in the air resulting in less sunlight coming through as what happened with  the famous krakatoa eruption... 

So to isolate temperature as the only symptom for an awareness of environmental issues is as ludicrous as talking about a isolated day or temperature as the partisan SAFs have done over and over and over


It is interesting to me that there are groups of people that back science/medicine and there are groups of people that oppose/fear/reject science and medicine...  Like when it comes to stem cell research and watching peyton and other athletes have to go outside of the country to get treatment...

But because it is based on prescribed partisan perception and scripted reaction the prospects on a "rational debate" are impossible... just spewing more rhetoric and Spin...

it is funny how threads in this forum get so cluttered with posts, the majority of which are partisan aliases that are basically just dropping leaflet of propaganda and Spin.... While quality posters like yourself, rick, skeltooth and others cant compete with the partisan attention person


the KKkroger alias is not passionate about the issues, if not he would have engaged passionately in discussions... He was more about just being in the Frontrow and Center of attention

Or a better metphor might be that he lights the weed in the bong or pipe trying to pass around what he is smoking... and once the bowl is lit there are certain posters that cant hit it enough...





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Posted: 2/24/2012 9:43:31 PM
Its funny that bowlsit is accusing me of being an alias
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bowslit, I am guessing that your volcano BS is simply something that someone else said and you simply copied it as a talking point only to regurgitate it...  it is funny to think that you would actually claim a thought as your own when you are known for being just another one of the mindless partisan propaganda Slimeballs on this site...

My guess is that it has been said before that volcanic ash contributes to climate change and you are simply trying to take credit for an idea that is not your's....

show me your post where you talked about volcanos


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Posted: 2/25/2012 6:33:06 AM
There seems to be a lot of Anne Coultiers on this site he don't think what happened in Japan isn't a problem.
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QUOTE Originally Posted by gers:

There seems to be a lot of Anne Coultiers on this site who don't think what happened in Japan isn't a problem.
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Posted: 2/25/2012 6:36:49 AM
When the next one melts down nearest to you make sure to inhale some after all it's good for us.
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QUOTE Originally Posted by gers:

There seems to be a lot of Anne Coultiers on this site he don't think what happened in Japan isn't a problem.


Science and reality seems to be the enemy of the Spin masters who are constantly preaching their propaganda
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Science and reality seems to be the enemy of the Spin masters who are constantly preaching their propaganda


The climate change nuts should be transported back to 1932 Germany
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Posted: 2/26/2012 6:54:42 AM
How can anybody make clips of blowing up children for their climate change religion while they ignore oil spills in the Gulf and nuclear plants melting down.
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Did everyone die of natural causes in the Ukraine since radiation is good for everyone according to the parrots on tv.
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