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#1 Posted: 8/26/2009 4:28:12 PM So I was playing some $1 - $2 No Limit at the Borgata this afternoon....good game but I was waiting for an opening in the $2 - $5 No Limit game.
I played in this $1 - $2 game for about 45 minutes when my name got called for the $2 - $5 game. No big deal right?
Well about 30 minutes later I see a guy from the my old table starting to scream and jump up and down. Dude hit the bad beat jackpot that was up around $173,000. Everyone else at the table got at least $10,000.
The hand was quad 4's losing to qaud 8's. Both guys flopped sets. Turn was a 4. River an 8.
Bye Bye $10,000 
At least it was not sitting in that seat that hit the jackpot.
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#2 Posted: 8/26/2009 4:33:20 PM F**k me
although had you stayed, it would have likely changed the course of events leading up to that hand and it never would have happened anyway
that blows tho dude
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#3 Posted: 8/26/2009 4:33:44 PM At least I was not sitting ^^ |
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#4 Posted: 8/26/2009 4:36:31 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by NL_Holdem34:
F**k me
although had you stayed, it would have likely changed the course of events leading up to that hand and it never would have happened anyway
that blows tho dude
Yeah....that's what I'm trying to tell myself.
Also the tournament was pretty big today so there were not alot of $2 - $5 games going at the time. I normally dont even play $1 - $2.
But damn...that would have been sweet. |
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#5 Posted: 8/26/2009 6:54:40 PM |
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#6 Posted: 8/26/2009 8:02:33 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by bigkat:
I have a black card at the Borgata but am tryin 2 learn poker now online b4 I go play with real cash. I do have question though, how do they determine the bad beat of the day???
There is no bad beat of the day.
It's a progressive jackpot that only hits when you lose a hand with at least quads. Pretty rare. You also must also use both of your hole cards. So if you have Let's say AQ and the flop comes QQQ with a K on the turn and K on the river and the other guy has KK. The jackpot does not cash since you did not use both your hole cards.
The 173,000 jackpot that hit today took some time to build up to that number.
The action at Harrah's last night was dead because everyone was at the Borgata since the jackpot was so high.
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#7 Posted: 8/26/2009 10:23:44 PM so how much did the guy actually get? The whole $173K, or what was left after all the other players got their 10 grand? Also did they have to fill out tax forms etc. or just get the cash on the spot? |
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#8 Posted: 8/26/2009 11:02:18 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by NL_Holdem34:
so how much did the guy actually get? The whole $173K, or what was left after all the other players got their 10 grand? Also did they have to fill out tax forms etc. or just get the cash on the spot?
To be honest I dont even know. I stopped paying attention after a few minutes. All I know is someone at my table said the loser of the hand gets like half the jackpot, then the winner of the hand gets a certain amount....then everyone else at the table splits whats left over. I asked a floor person on my way out what the payout for the other players are the table was and he said around 10 grand.
And i'm sure they had to fill out tax forms. I'm guessing it's paid out like a tournament cash. You can take cash, chips or check but you still have to pay uncle sam.
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#9 Posted: 8/27/2009 12:33:56 AM wow....thats cards for ya!!  |
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#10 Posted: 8/27/2009 2:35:36 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by Weathered:
There is no bad beat of the day.
It's a progressive jackpot that only hits when you lose a hand with at least quads. Pretty rare. You also must also use both of your hole cards. So if you have Let's say AQ and the flop comes QQQ with a K on the turn and K on the river and the other guy has KK. The jackpot does not cash since you did not use both your hole cards.
The 173,000 jackpot that hit today took some time to build up to that number.
The action at Harrah's last night was dead because everyone was at the Borgata since the jackpot was so high.
The jackpot should pay in this case as the Ace does play with the AQ hand. Some places say any Quads beaten , but players must have a pocket pair, I have seen that at one of the big places in LA, don't know if straight flush ove str fl counts in this case...
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#11 Posted: 8/27/2009 5:52:25 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by Weathered:
To be honest I dont even know. I stopped paying attention after a few minutes. All I know is someone at my table said the loser of the hand gets like half the jackpot, then the winner of the hand gets a certain amount....then everyone else at the table splits whats left over. I asked a floor person on my way out what the payout for the other players are the table was and he said around 10 grand.
And i'm sure they had to fill out tax forms. I'm guessing it's paid out like a tournament cash. You can take cash, chips or check but you still have to pay uncle sam.
It's usually 40% to the loser of the hand
20% to the winner
40% chopped by whoever else was dealt in the hand.
Some places do half to the loser
You have to fill out all the forms, so whatever you receive just cut that in half too. lol
Weathered where you from in Jersey?
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#12 Posted: 8/27/2009 11:07:51 AM Wow Weathered. I was there too. I was sitting at table 1, by the entrance, closest to the cashier. I was two tables away from where the bad beat hit. Did you see the drama though? There was a tenth player at the table, but he was away from the game when the bad beat hit. He came back, but he was not eligible for a slice because he wasn't dealt in. It was the guy in the Giants jersey. The guy who won the hand said that everyone should give him his cut (about $1200 from each of their prizes). Easy for him to say, because he gets his full 20% no matter what. But he's right. If I was at the table, I would've give him $1200. It's the right thing to do. If I went to the bathroom, and came back to find out the bad beat was hit, they better cut me in (if I was playing for a few hours, as this guy was). The lady at the table was saying that it's too bad for him, and she wasn't cutting him in. The guy who had the quad 8s hit her with "You're a greedy girl." She had a male friend at the table, and he stood up and went towards the guy. Security had to intervene (they were already there though). My table was getting a fill at the time, and the floorman said, "How could these people be chopping up 170K, and be mad?" I agree. Giving that guy his cut was absolutely the right thing to do. The guy that won the pot gave the guy his whole stack (about $800). Wild scene though. People were five deep around the table, trying to see what was going on. The game was stopped for two hours, while they reviewed the tape. |
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#13 Posted: 8/27/2009 12:25:53 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by DannoDanger:
Wow Weathered. I was there too. I was sitting at table 1, by the entrance, closest to the cashier. I was two tables away from where the bad beat hit. Did you see the drama though? There was a tenth player at the table, but he was away from the game when the bad beat hit. He came back, but he was not eligible for a slice because he wasn't dealt in. It was the guy in the Giants jersey. The guy who won the hand said that everyone should give him his cut (about $1200 from each of their prizes). Easy for him to say, because he gets his full 20% no matter what. But he's right. If I was at the table, I would've give him $1200. It's the right thing to do. If I went to the bathroom, and came back to find out the bad beat was hit, they better cut me in (if I was playing for a few hours, as this guy was). The lady at the table was saying that it's too bad for him, and she wasn't cutting him in. The guy who had the quad 8s hit her with "You're a greedy girl." She had a male friend at the table, and he stood up and went towards the guy. Security had to intervene (they were already there though). My table was getting a fill at the time, and the floorman said, "How could these people be chopping up 170K, and be mad?" I agree. Giving that guy his cut was absolutely the right thing to do. The guy that won the pot gave the guy his whole stack (about $800). Wild scene though. People were five deep around the table, trying to see what was going on. The game was stopped for two hours, while they reviewed the tape.
Yeah I kinda saw what was going on but like I said I stopped paying attention since there were soooo many people crowding around the table and you could not really tell what they were all talking about. I was playing in a game were my back was toward the action going on...i was facing the tournament and high limit section, my seat was in the isle you turn left down to the bathrooms....i'm sure you know the spot i'm talking about in relation to the table the jackpot hit....I basically got tired of looking behind me to see what was going on. I saw people fighting and stuff and I saw the security come in. The guy in the Giants jersey is there everyday. I forget his name but I was talking to him about the days bases card...he loves to bet sports. He was wearing a Plaxico Burress jersey tuesday night and a Brandon Jacobs jersey yesterday. I did not know that he missed the hand. That's a worse beat than I took!! |
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#14 Posted: 8/27/2009 12:30:04 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by markp851:
It's usually 40% to the loser of the hand
20% to the winner
40% chopped by whoever else was dealt in the hand.
Some places do half to the loser
You have to fill out all the forms, so whatever you receive just cut that in half too. lol
Weathered where you from in Jersey?
I think thats about right....someone said it was 50% to the loser but either way it's a nice chunk of cash.
I'm from Bergen County. 20 minutes or so from New York City. I was down there for a couple of days getting my Poker fix in before Football season starts and my focus turns to gambling on that. |
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#15 Posted: 8/27/2009 1:28:39 PM The loser of the hand got about 68K, the winner of the hand got about 34K, and the other 7 people got about 9700 each.
The guy in the Jacobs jersey ended up getting money though. The guy who won the hand gave the guy his whole stack, and most of the people gave him the 1200. I'm not sure exactly how much he got, but I overheard him talking later and saying that they took care of him and most of them were nice about it.
I was at the window cashing out when the guy who won the 68K was getting his money. He said, "I'm now even for my poker career." I thought that was pretty funny. He was an older guy with a hat and glasses.
I live in Essex County, right near Bergen. I go to AC on Mondays and Wednesdays usually. |
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#16 Posted: 8/28/2009 5:31:05 PM
I was at a table that hit a small jackpot a few years ago, there was 1 player who was on a smoke break or whatever, came back 10 mins after the jackpot was hit and it was no big deal. A big jackpot would be a different story though...
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#17 Posted: 8/29/2009 12:27:57 AM wow - helluva story
absolutely they had to cut that guy in, if he was at the table for a long time and just happened to miss the hand. Could have been interesting if someone was there only for like 1/2 hour, was annoying to other players, obnoxious, etc. I could easily see someone getting cut out
And I would have slapped that greedy girl upside her head if she would have copped attitude like that
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#18 Posted: 8/29/2009 10:38:42 AM
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#19 Posted: 8/30/2009 1:56:59 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by DannoDanger:
The loser of the hand got about 68K, the winner of the hand got about 34K, and the other 7 people got about 9700 each.
The guy in the Jacobs jersey ended up getting money though. The guy who won the hand gave the guy his whole stack, and most of the people gave him the 1200. I'm not sure exactly how much he got, but I overheard him talking later and saying that they took care of him and most of them were nice about it.
I was at the window cashing out when the guy who won the 68K was getting his money. He said, "I'm now even for my poker career." I thought that was pretty funny. He was an older guy with a hat and glasses.
I live in Essex County, right near Bergen. I go to AC on Mondays and Wednesdays usually.
 Good story. Finally a story about a group of poker players with class, unlike the jerk offs that are highlighted on TV. And for being such a rude girl, I would not have tipped the dealer a red cent.
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#20 Posted: 8/30/2009 2:08:03 AM |
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#21 Posted: 8/30/2009 8:57:36 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by wizardofroz:
Good story. Finally a story about a group of poker players with class, unlike the jerk offs that are highlighted on TV. And for being such a rude girl, I would not have tipped the dealer a red cent.
The dealer wasn't involved at all. Now that I think about it, I'm not sure which dealer it was. It was another player at the table who refused to give the guy his cut. |
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#22 Posted: 8/30/2009 10:56:11 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by DannoDanger:
The loser of the hand got about 68K, the winner of the hand got about 34K, and the other 7 people got about 9700 each.
The guy in the Jacobs jersey ended up getting money though. The guy who won the hand gave the guy his whole stack, and most of the people gave him the 1200. I'm not sure exactly how much he got, but I overheard him talking later and saying that they took care of him and most of them were nice about it.
I was at the window cashing out when the guy who won the 68K was getting his money. He said, "I'm now even for my poker career." I thought that was pretty funny. He was an older guy with a hat and glasses.
I live in Essex County, right near Bergen. I go to AC on Mondays and Wednesdays usually.
I dont go to AC on a set schedule. Just when the mood hits me to play Poker. Maybe like 10 times a year thats about all.
I like Poker....dont love it.
I used to be a big time Poker player....but like anything life takes over and you can only do so much when you settle down with a wife and family so something had to give. I'm still bet Sports everyday and I play Golf (and gamble on the Golf course) about 4 times a week. So my need for action is not a problem.
But the next time I head down to the Borgata I'll post in this forum, if your down there at the time i'll buy you lunch 
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#23 Posted: 8/31/2009 10:42:46 PM I'll be down there alot in the next four weeks. The Borgata Poker Open starts next Wednesday. I plan on playing at least three events. The WCOOP starts this week on PokerStars too. I'll be playing a few of those events too. I've got a busy September ahead of me. With football starting too, my girlfriend might be leaving me. |
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#24 Posted: 9/2/2009 12:53:33 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by Weathered:
You also must also use both of your hole cards. So if you have Let's say AQ and the flop comes QQQ with a K on the turn and K on the river and the other guy has KK. The jackpot does not cash since you did not use both your hole cards.
I sure would use both
Quad queens, Ace kicker
Now if I was dealt Queen Jack...
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#25 Posted: 9/2/2009 10:04:42 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by DannoDanger:
I'll be down there alot in the next four weeks. The Borgata Poker Open starts next Wednesday. I plan on playing at least three events. The WCOOP starts this week on PokerStars too. I'll be playing a few of those events too. I've got a busy September ahead of me. With football starting too, my girlfriend might be leaving me.
I'm probably going to stake a couple of guys into an event or two at the Borgata. I might even play an event myself.
Let me know the tournaments your planning on playing |
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