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#1 Posted: 4/18/2012 11:21:48 AM
Away: Atlanta
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#2 Posted: 9/1/2012 4:17:08 PM Kansas City - 20 Atlanta - 16
Chiefs +2  under 41.5
There was a time (10 years ago) this would be an automatic "w". Chiefs at home, week 1 vs nfc opponent usually =  . Let's go back to the future and hope they steal another one from the nfc.
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#3 Posted: 9/2/2012 3:56:07 PM |
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#4 Posted: 9/2/2012 4:10:43 PM They were decimated with injuries last year but appear healthy now.
With WR Bowe resigned as Franchise tender for 1 season he'll play his A$$ off for a deal next year, expecting a good year from Baldwin also.
The addition of RB Peyton Hillis (if he regains his form from 2010 campaign) is a positive, and with a healthy RB Jamaal Charles the run game may be a force to reckon with.
with some improvements on the O-line to protect Cassel I feel KC have the potential to come out ahead in the AFC West IF ALL STAY HEALTHY
Me thinks they are a good home dawg bet this week
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#5 Posted: 9/2/2012 9:51:39 PM one thing that no one can reverse is time . And the Falcons are getting old . Kc is rebuilding at RB with youth and looking tough with a 1-2 punch and a good defense
Beginning of the year , but chiefs look to be 1st or 2nd in thier divison.
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#6 Posted: 9/3/2012 1:38:45 AM |
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#9 Posted: 9/4/2012 1:28:07 AM Posted: 9/3/2012 8:23:15 PMI see no reason to believe KC has changed their losing ways. Paying -3. and taking Atlanta
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#10 Posted: 9/4/2012 6:25:02 PM  I refuse to pass up early season's gifts!
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#11 Posted: 9/4/2012 8:17:12 PM If this was December, and the Chiefs were gearing up for some sort of playoff run, and it was a snowing/drizzling 35 degrees with a sloppy field, then maybe I'd side with the outdoor team in arguably the loudest stadium in the country.
But, it's not - it's the opener, and it's going to be 80 degrees and sunny, with zero chance of rain, and the wind at 6 mph..........
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#12 Posted: 9/4/2012 9:46:39 PM TheQuadYeah
If this was December, and the Chiefs were gearing up for some sort of playoff run...
I have not heard or seen these words together for some time. Who knows... maybe some day... but not today. Dirty Bird by 6+ |
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#13 Posted: 9/7/2012 12:12:09 PM |
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#14 Posted: 9/7/2012 9:45:57 PM K.C. +3 & o/43.5.
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#15 Posted: 9/9/2012 2:10:20 AM
Yes Atlanta, or specifically Matt Ryan, has posted a 17-15 road record versus a 26-4 home record since 2008 in games he started, but here are the losses: -Saints(division opponent) -Saints(division opponent) -Saints(division opponent) -Panthers(division opponent) -Panthers(division opponent) -Bucs(division opponent) -Bucs(division opponent) -Eagles(played the falcons every year since 2008) -Eagles(played the falcons every year since 2008) -Bears(After losing the past two years in Atlanta-Revenge) -Patriots(who don't they beat at home) -Cowboys -Giants(overtime loss) -Texans(won AFC South last year) -Steelers(home opener in Pitt and lost in overtime)
Kansas City to me doesn't seem to be in the same category of teams that have beaten Atlanta on the road. Kansas City is also 1-3 its last four at home, with the one win on a Monday night against the Chargers, a division rival.
AFC West last four years are 1-3(All 2008, Matt Ryan's rookie year)
AFC Last four years are 4-12 against Atlanta
For those who are a huge fan of the KC running game, Atlanta was the 6th ranked defense against the run only allowing 97.0 yards per game. That's not against one player, but the whole team.
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#16 Posted: 9/9/2012 2:13:06 AM
Yes Atlanta, or specifically Matt Ryan, has posted a 17-15 road record versus a 26-4 home record since 2008 in games he started, but here are the losses: -Saints(division opponent) -Saints(division opponent) -Saints(division opponent) -Panthers(division opponent) -Panthers(division opponent) -Bucs(division opponent) -Bucs(division opponent) -Eagles(played the falcons every year since 2008) -Eagles(played the falcons every year since 2008) -Bears(After losing the past two years in Atlanta-Revenge) -Patriots(who don't they beat at home) -Cowboys -Giants(overtime loss) -Texans(won AFC South last year) -Steelers(home opener in Pitt and lost in overtime)
Kansas City to me doesn't seem to be in the same category of teams that have beaten Atlanta on the road. Kansas City is also 1-3 its last four home openers, with the one win on a Monday night against the Chargers, a division rival.
AFC West last four years are 1-3(All 2008, Matt Ryan's rookie year)
AFC Last four years are 4-12 against Atlanta
For those who are a huge fan of the KC running game, Atlanta was the 6th ranked defense against the run only allowing 97.0 yards per game last year.
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#17 Posted: 9/9/2012 2:13:27 AM Additionally, Atlanta(Matt Ryan) is 5-0 in West Coast games, 6-0 if you include the Rams -Seahawks -Seahawks -Rams -Chargers -Raiders -49ers |
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#18 Posted: 9/9/2012 2:14:42 AM |
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Matt Ryan is 26-1 against teams that finish that season they play the Falcons with a losing record. He doesn't lose to losing teams.
Of Matt Ryan's 19 losses, only one loss came to a team that finished with a record lower than 8-8. That was last year on the road against the division rival Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay finished 4-12.
His 19 losses:
2008 Road Tampa Bay(9-7) 2008 Road Carolina(12-4) 2008 Road Eagles(9-5-1) 2008 Home Broncos(8-8) 2008 Road Saints(8-8) 2009 Road Patriots(10-6) 2009 Road Cowboys(11-5) 2009 Road Saints(13-3) 2009 Road Panthers(8-8) 2009 Road Giants(10-6) 2010 Road Steelers(12-4) 2010 Road Eagles(10-6) 2010 Home Saints(11-5) 2011 Road Bears(8-8) 2011 Road Bucs(4-12 2011 Home Packers(15-1) 2011 Home Saints(13-3) 2011 Road Texans(10-6) 2011 Road Saints(13-3)
That's one losing team, four average 8-8 teams, and fourteen winning teams.
So if you think the Chief's can win this game, you would also considering placing a wager that the Chief's go over the 8 wins the books have them at right now.
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#19 Posted: 9/9/2012 2:15:35 AM Well, since the spread is even pick in some books and KC(+1) in most, here are some more relevant stats since this is a "who is gonna win" spread.
From 2001-2011:
Kansas City is 4-7 it's first game of the season 2001 L 2002 W 2003 W 2004 L 2005 W 2006 L 2007 L 2008 L 2009 L 2010 W 2011 L
Kansas City is 4-7 its first HOME game of the season 2001 Loss Raiders 24 - 27 2002 Loss Jaguars 16 - 23 2003 Win Chargers 27 - 14 2004 Loss Panthers 17 - 28 2005 Win Jets 27 - 7 2006 Loss Bengals 10 - 23 2007 Win Vikings 13 - 10 2008 Loss Raiders 8 - 23 2009 Loss Raiders 10 - 13 2010 Win Chargers 21 - 14 2011 Loss Bills 7 - 41
Since 2001 Kansas City has a 48 - 40 home record
If you only go back to 2008, KC is 12 - 20 at home, losing 3 of 4 opening home games. That ATS stat is crucial, but it's irrelevant when there essentially is no spread. |
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#20 Posted: 9/9/2012 2:17:04 AM | KC pro bowl LB Hali out week 1(suspension) |
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