Haye v Chisora

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Mack05 PM Mack05
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Posted: 5/14/2012 4:22:51 AM

Really Like this fight from a betting angle. I think Chisora is a live dog @+175 but I am not really interested in taking that price. I think there are only two realistic outcomes to this fight. Haye by points (could be conterversial) or Chisora by KO.

Haye is not knocking this guy out. Chisora has one of the best chins since Ray Mercer in his hayday. If Haye comes trying to blast this guy out I can see this being a very similar fight to Tommy Morrison v Ray Mercer back in the 90's where Tommy puts a beatdown on Ray for 6 rounds only for Ray to KO a clearly gassed Morrison.

Haye's biggest problem is stamina. The guy can't fight for 3 minutes of every round. Wlad controlled the fight and was happy to dictate the pace and not take chances. Chisora will be pressuring Haye from the opening bell. Haye in the meantime will be fighting off the back foot all night looking to outbox Chisora.

I think Haye could be very vulberable after round 8. Especially if he lands bombs and see's Chisora still coming after him. For Haye to win this fight he has to fight at his pace and dictate the tempo not wasting valuable energy. I can see him having some success doing this and also a fair hairy moments. Haye is the better boxer. I have no doubt about that and if he can stay out of trouble should cruise to a points win @+120. That will be my play but I will straddle it with a Chisora KO @+500.

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1) Haye on Points @ +120

2) Chisora by KO @ +500

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Posted: 5/15/2012 1:31:28 AM
I think haye wins this one pretty easy, I will bet on him simply to win the fight. chisora is too slow
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Posted: 5/15/2012 4:56:19 AM

Chisora is slow but effective in what he does. Haye simply doesn't have the stamina and skill to keep Chisora at bay for 12 rounds. At some stage he will feel the pressure. I'm sure when he does he will have a big poiints lead but laying -250 on a guy that has no chin, that will be pressured all night by a man that hasn't even remotely been wobbled in his career spells trouble for me.

Haye has power but its effective at cruiserweight. He dominated John Ruiz but you get the impression he was seriously starting to feel the pace. Chisora won't let up all night. He will keep coming. Laying -250 on Haye is nuts...

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Posted: 5/15/2012 7:49:13 PM
 haye is a level above this guy and if wladimir did not ko him, neither will chisora, and their is no way haye is going to lose a dec.  -250 is a lot but I almost never bet for a guy to win by ko or dec (even if I think they will),but simply to win the fight, I will put 500 on haye to get back 2 and to me that is a safe bet, betting on how he will win to me is a gamble. 
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Posted: 5/15/2012 9:11:18 PM
Both have good points, depends on how you like to play, I just wouldn't want not to win if I liked Haye and he got a late stoppage. Haye will probably give him a boxing lesson (he didn't come out of retirement to lose to this guy), he might be able to get to KO out of fear of getting KO'd himself. Haye -250 
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Posted: 5/17/2012 9:46:07 PM
Chisora is technically garbage. He's rugged and that's about it. If there was ever a classic case of a Mack05 "laying reasonable chalk" fight, this is it. I don't see any way Chisora wins this fight, especially since I feel his power is very mediocre. 

I LOATHE David Haye, but this is an easy money "comeback" fight with the glassing incident used to line Haye's pockets with more scam cash. Brilliant guy when you look at how little he's done and how much cash he has made.
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Posted: 5/17/2012 11:10:26 PM
Haye cannot fight on the inside. cHISORA will be my play. 
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Posted: 5/18/2012 9:39:30 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by walktheline:

Chisora is technically garbage. He's rugged and that's about it. If there was ever a classic case of a Mack05 "laying reasonable chalk" fight, this is it. I don't see any way Chisora wins this fight, especially since I feel his power is very mediocre. 

I LOATHE David Haye, but this is an easy money "comeback" fight with the glassing incident used to line Haye's pockets with more scam cash. Brilliant guy when you look at how little he's done and how much cash he has made.


walk my play is Haye on Points. The Chisora KO is just a straddle..
Mack05 PM Mack05
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Posted: 7/10/2012 9:07:58 AM
Plays for the weekend:

Same as above exceot the odds got better..

Plays...

1) Haye on Points @ +150

2) Chisora by KO @ +500


Also playing Khan on points against Garcia +140. I think Garcia is probably the play and will win the fight, but I think Khan will be given the fight by the judges. Khan is fast but his BIG problem is that he doesn't have a good boxing brain. If someone negets his speed then he is trouble. There is no plan b. He can't fight on the inside and can't adapt mid fight. Garcia is a VERY live dog here. Going to play the draw here as I smell conterversy
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Posted: 7/10/2012 10:52:44 PM
I like Chisora here.  David Haye can't fight on the inside and needs range to get off.  I can see a mid ruond stoppage here.  Chisora is not a fighter Haye has experienced.  
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Posted: 7/11/2012 6:21:22 PM
GL Mack...
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Posted: 7/13/2012 2:48:53 PM
This one is going the distance.  Vitali, Fury and Helenius couldnt hurt Chisora - Haye isnt going to either.

Haye will do a lot of circling and fighting on the outside.  He came at a low weight suggesting he will look to use speed and outpoint Chisora.


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Posted: 7/14/2012 5:32:23 PM
Haye by 5th rd. KO
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Posted: 7/14/2012 10:59:35 PM
yep lost a few dollars. I take the blow NEVER chase..
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