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#76
Posted: 3/20/2013 10:49:59 AM
busy week for this newsletter.


apparently, the "god of second chances" isn't quite the christian family values god that the well, other god, is as mark sanford, who we all know is the married christian family values ex south carolina governer who diseappred from that governor job and his wife and kids to cheat on his wife with some chick from argentina, in argentina, (likely using public funds in some way) who is now, of course, embraced by the christian family values republicans as he runs for congress, as what else but a rightwing republican.

or, just another day in rightwing family values fantasy land. 

who wants to bet that if this guy wins and has more access to public funds, he'll make his way down to brazil in 2014 for the World Cup.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/Sanford-advances-in-SC-race-Colbert-s-sister-wins-4369063.php
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Posted: 3/20/2013 12:51:46 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Rostos:

It blows my mind that in this day and age people believe Universes pop into existence from nothing.......

Oh let me guess, you will say, "i dont believe that"....

Typical backdoor Atheist.....Pose and boast, but when challenge is put in front of you, whimp out and hide behind Agnosticism.....

You are like a cat that chases its tail....


sorry, I don't say I don't "believe", I say I don't know, and I'm fine with that...

you thinking you do know, is arrogant...

but, what I don't believe...

-is that if you don't believe in "god" you go to this fiery place and you are tortured for eternity

-or that a man died and the rose again 

-or a man was born from a virgin 

-or a man walked on water

and so on...

what I do know...

-is that people believe to make themselves feel better 

-or pretend to believe to back their own agendas

-or believe because they just aren't that intelligent

in fact most people don't truly believe, because if they did they would be living there lives a lot differently (including you).

so you can stop your judging and leave it to your make believe "god"....


religion = crock


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Posted: 3/20/2013 6:22:33 PM
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sorry, I don't say I don't "believe", I say I don't know, and I'm fine with that...

you thinking you do know, is arrogant...

but, what I don't believe...

-is that if you don't believe in "god" you go to this fiery place and you are tortured for eternity

-or that a man died and the rose again 

-or a man was born from a virgin 

-or a man walked on water

and so on...

what I do know...

-is that people believe to make themselves feel better 

-or pretend to believe to back their own agendas

-or believe because they just aren't that intelligent

in fact most people don't truly believe, because if they did they would be living there lives a lot differently (including you).

so you can stop your judging and leave it to your make believe "god"....


religion = crock


Do you have any evidence its not a Supreme Creator?

Yes or no?

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Posted: 3/20/2013 6:23:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

rostos, i think that's using your brain.  in my professional, life, i have to judge people, statements, situations all of the time.  i can't go through the day with my brain turned off and foxnews turned on or i might as well dig ditches for a living. 

same goes for my personal life, especially with kids.  you have to be thinking, assessing, judging to maximize your effectiveness as a productive and effective person in society.  whoever says don't judge is either lying or is just completely checking out of intellectual and responsible society.  don't let the bible put you in either group. 

You can judge all you want bud, but just remember, wwho the f## are you?

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Posted: 3/20/2013 7:14:33 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Rostos:

You can judge all you want bud, but just remember, wwho the f## are you?



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Posted: 3/20/2013 7:30:58 PM
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You go around preaching subjective morality then claim your view on things is right?

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Posted: 3/20/2013 7:49:41 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Rostos:

You go around preaching subjective morality then claim your view on things is right?



bring up some issues, i will guide you to the correct path.  1st 5 are free. 
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Posted: 3/20/2013 8:50:35 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by GSP10:

That ok. Agnostic say "they don't know". Not one day they known and next week they don't know. If you are incorrect are you still willing to be "committed?" Btw you didn't reply why not be a deist? There is nothing higher than reason (do you agree?)

Do you ever wonder where we came from? Why are we here?
A roll of the cosmic dice.
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Posted: 3/21/2013 12:33:22 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Rostos:

Do you have any evidence its not a Supreme Creator?

Yes or no?


no, just like I don't have any evidence that it is...
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Posted: 3/21/2013 1:47:24 AM
When the critic says there's no God he's basing this on his own insight, and unless he has insight into 100% of all knowledge he can never be sure he's right.
 
 
 
 
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Posted: 3/21/2013 11:54:04 AM
drake, that offer goes for you too.  i'll be your spiritual guidance counselor through the month.  you and rostos put away your religion for march and come to the Church of ClubDirt for all questions from who will cover in the world cup qualifiers to how to treat other people who might be different from you. 
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Posted: 3/21/2013 12:48:44 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

When people say there is a God he's basing this on his own insight, and unless he has insight into 100% of all knowledge he can never be sure he's right.
 
 
 
 

fixed it for you....

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Posted: 3/21/2013 6:59:04 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


no, just like I don't have any evidence that it is...

SO you have a belief just like believers have a belief...

Yet you go around bagging believers...........

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Posted: 3/21/2013 9:56:35 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Rostos:

SO you have a belief just like believers have a belief...

Yet you go around bagging believers...........


you got me, I don't believe there is a "god", just like I don't believe in santa, or the easter bunny...

problem is, when you try to feed me the religious crap...

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Posted: 3/22/2013 2:57:05 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


you got me, I don't believe there is a "god", just like I don't believe in santa, or the easter bunny...

problem is, when you try to feed me the religious crap...

Just like i dont believe universes can pop into existence from nothing and life can come from non life.....

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Posted: 3/22/2013 10:42:43 AM
But he still believes in something, his atheism is self defeating.
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Posted: 3/22/2013 11:58:34 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by OnlyGod:

But he still believes in something, his atheism is self defeating.

correct, I only believe in things that I have evidence for...

never said I believe the universe "popped" into existence...
those are rostos words...

nice try...
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Posted: 3/22/2013 12:45:32 PM
Me: I don't know how the universe actually began. What I do know is that there was a big bang that started it all and over the course of about 14 billion years, the universe as we see it today slowly developed leading to life on our planet, which evolved into everything we see today.

Rostos: I know how the universe actually began. Since it didn't pop into existence out of nothing, the only explanation possible is that a supreme being (that popped into existence out of nothing?) created a big bang that started it all and over the course of about 14 billion years, the universe as we see it today slowly developed leading to life on our planet, which evolved into everything we see today. (For some reason, this supreme being decided he wanted to create a universe in this exact manner at that exact moment and then leave it alone for 14 billion years...and counting)
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Posted: 3/22/2013 6:57:32 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

Me: I don't know how the universe actually began. What I do know is that there was a big bang that started it all and over the course of about 14 billion years, the universe as we see it today slowly developed leading to life on our planet, which evolved into everything we see today.

Rostos: I know how the universe actually began. Since it didn't pop into existence out of nothing, the only explanation possible is that a supreme being (that popped into existence out of nothing?) created a big bang that started it all and over the course of about 14 billion years, the universe as we see it today slowly developed leading to life on our planet, which evolved into everything we see today. (For some reason, this supreme being decided he wanted to create a universe in this exact manner at that exact moment and then leave it alone for 14 billion years...and counting)
Tell me about this "big bang" and how it started it all.

 I trust your understanding of how things were going down 14 billion years ago. You seem like you're capable of time travel. 
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Posted: 3/22/2013 8:02:44 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


you got me, I don't believe there is a "god", just like I don't believe in santa, or the easter bunny...

problem is, when you try to feed me the religious crap...



Do NOT bad mouth the Easter Bunny... Last thing you want is to upset him...
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Posted: 3/22/2013 8:22:06 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

Me: I don't know how the universe actually began. What I do know is that there was a big bang that started it all and over the course of about 14 billion years, the universe as we see it today slowly developed leading to life on our planet, which evolved into everything we see today.

Rostos: I know how the universe actually began. Since it didn't pop into existence out of nothing, the only explanation possible is that a supreme being (that popped into existence out of nothing?) created a big bang that started it all and over the course of about 14 billion years, the universe as we see it today slowly developed leading to life on our planet, which evolved into everything we see today. (For some reason, this supreme being decided he wanted to create a universe in this exact manner at that exact moment and then leave it alone for 14 billion years...and counting)

So your an Agnostic?

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Posted: 3/22/2013 10:21:45 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Rostos:

So your an Agnostic?


From Wikipedia

Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1][2] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[3][4][5] Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.[4][5][6][7] Atheism is contrasted with theism,[8][9] which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.[9][10]


I do not believe in deities. Therefore, I am an atheist. ARGUMENT. OVER.
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Posted: 3/22/2013 10:22:50 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Getty3:

Tell me about this "big bang" and how it started it all.

 I trust your understanding of how things were going down 14 billion years ago. You seem like you're capable of time travel. 

Talk to the scientists. They can explain it far better than I can. Google can provide you with ample information.
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Posted: 3/22/2013 11:35:07 PM
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drake, that offer goes for you too.  i'll be your spiritual guidance counselor through the month.  you and rostos put away your religion for march and come to the Church of ClubDirt for all questions from who will cover in the world cup qualifiers to how to treat other people who might be different from you. 

But if I'm right believing there is a God, having accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord Savior I go to heaven and live happily every after in everlasting eternal blissful paradise, whereas you go to the place of eternal punishment for your sins.

But if you are right there is no God, then we won't know anything about it because we are going to be just as dead as doorknobs having no conscious awareness that we are now in the state of non-existence.

Either way I'm better off believing there is indeed an Almighty God, Creator of the universe and everything that exists.

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Posted: 3/22/2013 11:39:30 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

But if I'm right believing there is a God, having accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord Savior I go to heaven and live happily every after in everlasting eternal blissful paradise, whereas you go to the place of eternal punishment for your sins.

But if you are right there is no God, then we won't know anything about it because we are going to be just as dead as doorknobs having no conscious awareness that we are now in the state of non-existence.

Either way I'm better off believing there is indeed an Almighty God, Creator of the universe and everything that exists.


What if you believe in the wrong god? And the actual god is really pissed that you didn't believe in him?
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