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Posted: 11/17/2012 1:03:13 PM
See if this formats right, here are the NCAAB Setlines through yesterday:

0-0
-30.5+ 0-0 3-5 -14.5+ 5-3
0-0 -29.5+ 0-0 1-0 -13.5+ 0-1
0-1 -28.5+ 1-0 3-2 -12.5+ 2-3
1-1 -27.5+ 1-1 1-0 -11.5+ 0-1
0-0 -26.5+ 0-0 2-4 -10.5+ 4-2
0-0 -25.5+ 0-0 4-4 -9.5+ 4-4
1-0 -24.5+ 0-1 3-3 -8.5+ 3-3
0-0 -23.5+ 0-0 8-2 -7.5+ 2-8
1-0 -22.5+ 0-1 2-7 -6.5+ 7-2
0-2 -21.5+ 2-0 6-4 -5.5+ 4-6
3-3 -20.5+ 3-3 3-6 -4.5+ 6-3
2-0 -19.5+ 0-2 9-2 -3.5+ 2-9
1-1 -18.5+ 1-1 4-8 -2.5+ 8-4
1-1 -17.5+ 3-1 6-2 -1.5+ 2-6
5-0 -16.5+ 0-5 1-3 -0.5+ 3-1
3-0 -15.5+ 0-3
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Posted: 11/17/2012 1:15:23 PM
Pro-line set spreads can be found at

http://sportselect.wclc.com/lists/

Click on Point Spreads.

Today Den +6.5 Chi +6.5

There are no +2.5

Angle out, will be back later tonite. Currently NO angles listed on the insider angles website for NFL! I hope it gets updated!       
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Posted: 11/17/2012 1:27:21 PM
I was wondering what method is used for the NBA 2/H totals.
 
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Posted: 11/17/2012 3:28:56 PM
Ohio State vs Wisconsin (-1) for Game.
Texas Tech (+10) vs Oklahoma State for Game.
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Posted: 11/17/2012 3:33:55 PM
Ohio State vs Wisconsin (-1) for Game.
Texas Tech (+10) vs Oklahoma State for Game.
Northwestern (+7) vs Michigan State for Game.
Kent State +1  1half
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Posted: 11/17/2012 4:00:41 PM
LA TECH +3
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Posted: 11/17/2012 7:57:49 PM
stanford 1h +13
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Posted: 11/17/2012 9:01:01 PM
thanks very much for the updates on NCAABB Go Nads
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Posted: 11/17/2012 9:20:11 PM
Anyone have any advice on how to run a query on killersports.


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Posted: 11/18/2012 12:20:30 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ChipsNVouchers:

Saturday's NBA Quarters:

Grizzlies 2Q- Grizzlies 7-1 vs Bobcats 3-4

Jazz 1Q- Jazz 5-4 vs Wizards 1-6 

Spurs 4Q- Spurs 7-2 vs Nuggets 5-4

 

Hornets 1Q won again but I didn't play it.

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Posted: 11/18/2012 12:21:49 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ChipsNVouchers:

+6.5 13-2

+7.5 14-5  Illinois

+8.5  9-5

+10.5 8-2 West Virginia

+13.5 6-1

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Posted: 11/18/2012 1:35:24 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by paster21:

Anyone have any advice on how to run a query on killersports.



Best place to start is here:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/sportsdatabase

You can search for what you are looking for and get tips on how to run the queries with the right terms
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Posted: 11/18/2012 2:08:12 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by paster21:

Anyone have any advice on how to run a query on killersports.


Here's one I happen to like:

team=Knicks and season=2012 and P4>o:P4

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Posted: 11/18/2012 2:11:53 AM
First the bad news, the fade the Clips 2 game chase lost with Chi Bulls today

Good news, it was only 2 games!

GM1 chase with NO won today!

Now 7-2 NBA chases, with 1 loss on one game of 2 game chase with a push on GM2 and other today with 2 game loss.

With one unit profit wagered for each chase and counting points bought there is approx 5.5 units lost with 7 units won.

If I decide to raise the units I will advise, still early in the season. You will find this should be profitable in the long run.

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Posted: 11/18/2012 2:51:37 AM
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Week 11 NFL Angles from Insider Angles, a dot com website. I hope this doesn't mess up the page as I will copy and paste...
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It was a fantastic week 10 for the NFL Trends & Angles as the qualifying plays went 8-2 ATS on an individual game basis. Furthermore both losers came in on the only angle that points to favorites, as favorites coming off a bye went 0-2 ATS, meaning that all the rest of the angles went a collective 8-0!

As those of you that have followed in the past know, the vast majority of the angles will point you to live underdogs and live ‘unders’ when we have total angles. We kick things off this week with another angle that points to underdogs a vast majority of the time that has not applied for a while.

All of the season-long trends go back to 2005, as that gives us a large enough sampling without going back too far to games that may pre-date certain changes in the game that may make using older games less than ideal.

Also, you will occasionally see angles that refer to Good Teams and/or Bad Teams. We are not using those terms subjectively in those contexts, but rather, Good Teams are strictly defined as teams that have won at least 10 of their last 16 games and Bad Teams are defined as teams that have lost at least 10 of their last 16 games.

Here are the NFL Trends & Angles for Week 11, with all records being for the last seven seasons since 2005 plus the first 10 weeks of this season.

Angle #1 - Bet on any team that has lost at least four straight games ATS (71-47-5, 60.2% ATS since 2005): This is a contrarian angle that looks for potentially undervalued teams that most bettors tend to avoid, as they do not like betting on teams on decided ATS losing streaks.. It has not made much difference whether or not the team is now home (31-21-4 ATS) or away (30-26-1 ATS).  Qualifier: Philadelphia +4

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Angle4u999 warning! Please note starter Vick out and rookie QB Foles is starting. This can be a problem. This voids my Philly chase. Light play if at all for me.)

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Angle #2 - Play on any Bad Team on the road that was an underdog in each of its last four games (97-64-2, 60.2% ATS):Playing this angle may take some courage as it often points you to the dregs of the league, and on the road no less! But that is precisely the point as these teams often offer great value with no novice bettors wanting any part of them, as evidenced by the excellent winning percentage over a nice sampling. This angle won its only play in Week 10 with the Rams. Qualifiers: Cleveland +8 and Jacksonville +16.

Angle #3 - Play on any team that lost its last game by 28 or more points (92-58-4, 61.3% ATS): This angle combines two concepts, as professional teams in any sport do not like to get embarrassed and often bounce back strong in their next game, and also bettors tend to shy away from these teams, often leading to added line value. This angle went a perfect 2-0 in Week 10. Qualifier: Oakland +5. (This angle lost Thurs nite with Miami.)

Angle #4 - Play on any road underdog coming off of a road loss (133-73-5, 64.6% ATS): It used to be that teams playing consecutive road games were great fades, but as that angle became common knowledge, bookmakers started  to adjust the point spreads for teams playing on the road off of a road game. Well, based on these long-term results, they may have over-adjusted the lines, especially in the case of road underdogs, and this angle also adds in the motivation off wanting to bounce back after a loss. This angle went a perfect 2-0 in Week 10. Qualifiers: Arizona +10½, New York Jets +4 and San Diego +8.

Angle #5 - Play on any conference road underdog coming off of a road game (166-106-5, 61.0% ATS): The logic behind this angle is the same as the previous angle with two exceptions, as it does not matter if the team playing its second straight road game won or lost its previous game, and also it is restricted to conference game only as now facing a familiar foe lessens the travel effect since the team usually knows how to attack that foe and what to expect on defense. This angle went a perfect 2-0 in Week 10. Qualifiers: Arizona +10½, Indianapolis +10 and San Diego +8.

Angle #6 - Play on any favorite coming off of a bye week (82-46-4, 64.1% ATS): NFL teams that have had an extra week of preparation time have had a nice advantage in recent years, and the added time off often times has resulted in any injured players the teams may have also having extra recovery time, which is an added bonus. This angle went 0-2 in Week 10. Qualifiers: Green Bay -2½ or 3 and Washington -3.

Angle4u999 note: I have adjusted the lines from those on the website for optimum situation based on the time I posted this. On a few I of the dogs I added a half point and on a couple I added 1 point. On the 2 favorites, I lowered GB by half point and Wash by half point depending on your line.

I'm not overly concerned with the exact line, I just like to be sure and get over or under key numbers of 3, 7, 10 and 14. We don't see 21 very often in NFL. Even though I don't like to lose by a half point, I will play that if it covers up or below the key numbers. Buying one point can get expensive especially if getting over or under 3.

As you can see, San Diego and Arizona are DOUBLE angle, which has done well lately. I will put them in a 2 team parlay, which I forgot to do last week to my chagrin. Of course I can't buy points in a parlay so if I end up with SD +7.5 and Ariz +9.5 as they are currently, I will play that. The good thing about dogs is that the public tends to jack the line in our favor the closer it gets to gametime, but not always as most of you know. I will definitely have them in a teaser of some fashion that maximizes the line to cover the key numbers.

Also, Oak +5 (at current time) is GM2 of my 3 game chase. As it is an afternoon game I hope the line will get to 6 so I can buy to +7.

One think you need to know about the Raiders. They are much better catching points than giving! In the last few years if you followed that you would be smiling!


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Posted: 11/18/2012 3:23:32 AM
Here is some info I found on Oakland...

If you’ve ever wondered what a ‘sandwich’ game is, this could be the textbook example. The Saints had a huge win over the Falcons last week. After this one, New Orleans will host San Francisco, head to Atlanta for a Thursday game and then take on the Giants. Could you blame them for overlooking this one? Also consider that the Saints stock is higher than it’s been all season while the Raiders stock hit bottom with their 55-20 loss in Baltimore. This is not the right time to be buying Saints. Oakland usually comes up with something decent when least expected, as witnessed by their win over Pittsburgh in Week 3 after looking horrible in first two weeks. They did it again with near win in Atlanta after losing by 31 in Denver. When the Raiders decide to show up, they’re dangerous. Carson Palmer has thrown for over 350 yards in four different matchups and the defense he’ll face here is not only one of the league’s worst but it’s also in a real letdown spot. Expect the Raiders to come back to life here for at least one week.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 3:28:25 AM
Here is some info I found on Cleveland...

Dallas is far too desperate to take anyone lightly and need to win games like this to solidify its playoff chances. How many times have we heard that over the years? Dallas spotting more than a full touchdown is fool’s gold. When Dallas is supposed to win they usually don’t. They are a sloppy, undisciplined, self-destructive and one of the great underachieving teams of our time. They have just four covers in past 17 when giving points and they are offering them to one of the league’s best point takers.Cleveland has stayed within this range in three of its four road games. The only one they lost by more than eight was at G-Men when they built a 14-0 lead, took 91 yards in penalties and turned it over three times. That sounds more like a Dallas box score. The Brownies are rested and catch Dallas at the perfect time with the ‘Boys  waiting to host Washington on this upcoming Thanksgiving Thursday.

Plus the following info...

The Dallas Cowboys have the talent to win this game by plenty. But, over the past two years that talent has failed to manifest itself on the field. As a result, the Cowboys often find themselves in a battle week in week out regardless of the opponent. Going back to last year in a full season of games, Dallas is just 7-9 in their last 16, winning just two of those by more than 7 points. So 14 times they would have failed against this number, which is very telling. The fact is, Dallas plays up or down to their competition. Over the past three seasons, the underdog in Cowboys games has gone 34-12 ATS. Cleveland doesn't win many games, but they often find themselves in them, falling just short. The Browns are 2-11 straight-up in their last 13 games, but they have lost just one of the 11 by more than 10 points. Looking at those numbers from each side, as much as they shouldn't be, the Browns are likely to be in this game down the stretch. Cleveland is 7-2-1 ATS in their last 10 games when taking 6 or more points, and are 6-0 ATS following an ATS loss. Dallas has not played well at home, going 2-9 ATS in their last nine home games. Dallas is also 1-10 ATS the past two seasons after a win.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 3:47:29 AM
Before I sign off for the night, Hou/Jax qualifies for a correlated parlay in NFL. The only one I played in NFL this year won. By correlated I mean that the spread is related to the total. If  Hou can cover 15-16, there is a greater chance the game should go over 40. It also works the other way around, if Jax can stay within the 15-16 it could be a lower scoring game. I always make these plays small. Some books don't allow these plays. Sometimes you can change the amount by $1 and get both in, others don't allow the parlay because of high % of spread to total. You only need to hit one to make money obviously.

In NFL, I use 30%. This one is around 40%. Divide spread by total. If 30% or more, make 2 bets.

Bet one. Fave and over. (Hou/Over)
Bet two. Dog and under (Jax/Under)

(Two 2-team parlays)

Yesterday was bad for these plays in NCAAF as later in the season they don't hit as well as they do earlier when teams are playing cream puffs out of conference and the lines aren't as sharp.

When I see these kind of points in the NFL I always play these. Tough to watch as you don't know which way to cheer.

However, I will still have a separate unit on Jax straight up because of the angle play posted earlier. So I am hoping Jax/Under hits as well but will also play Hou/Over. I always play BOTH ways. Why, because that is the system!

Angle out. Will be back in morning.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 4:31:05 AM
Thanks Angle. I'll be all over the Browns for sure.

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Posted: 11/18/2012 9:15:59 AM

Quarter's for Sunday:

Lakers Q3 Lakers (4-1 home) vs Rockets (0-4 road)

Pistons 2Q Pistons (3-0 home) vs Celtics (1-4 road)

Raptors 1Q Raptors (3-1 home) vs Magic (1-3 road)

Knicks 1Q and 4Q  1Q (6-1) and 4Q (7-0)

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Posted: 11/18/2012 9:38:18 AM
Great information today Angle.  I always enjoy reading your insider angles column and your prospective of the information.  Best of luck today!
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Posted: 11/18/2012 10:58:58 AM
Good stuff angle. Like the angles today.  My play is wash, arz, and oak.  Good luck to all
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Posted: 11/18/2012 11:06:32 AM
Thur games on 11/17

0-0
-30.5+ 0-0 3-5 -14.5+ 5-3
0-0 -29.5+ 0-0 1-0 -13.5+ 0-1
0-1 -28.5+ 1-0 4-2 -12.5+ 2-4
1-1 -27.5+ 1-1 1-0 -11.5+ 0-1
0-0 -26.5+ 0-0 2-4 -10.5+ 4-2
0-1 -25.5+ 1-0 4-6 -9.5+ 6-4
1-0 -24.5+ 0-1 3-5 -8.5+ 5-3
0-1 -23.5+ 1-0 10-3 -7.5+ 3-10
1-0 -22.5+ 0-1 3-7 -6.5+ 7-3
0-2 -21.5+ 2-0 7-5 -5.5+ 5-7
3-3 -20.5+ 3-3 3-6 -4.5+ 6-3
2-3 -19.5+ 3-2 9-4 -3.5+ 4-9
1-1 -18.5+ 1-1 4-9 -2.5+ 9-4
1-1 -17.5+ 3-1 6-3 -1.5+ 3-6
6-0 -16.5+ 0-6 1-3 -0.5+ 3-1
4-0 -15.5+ 0-4
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Posted: 11/18/2012 11:09:20 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by randognsac:

Thanks Angle. I'll be all over the Browns for sure.



This morning I found that Dallas is a chase play in another system that
I use, so I am going to tread LIGHTLY here and hope they don't cover today.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 11:12:12 AM
Official chase play on Oakland, GM2 of 3.

We need to wait until we can buy one point to +7. I am seeing 5.5 some places. If it goes to 6, buy to 7, if it keeps going up to 6.5, buy to +7.5.
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