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Posted: 6/21/2011 10:25:17 PM
Besides not fighting Paul Williams, Sergio Martinez and of course Manny Pacquiao, I would like to bring back his statements regarding his return since retirement.
The one thing I remember very clearly was on HBO's 24/7 covering the Mayweather-Marquez fight. I know HBO's 24/7 is there to promote and bring rivalry to the fight but there is a line that should not be crossed. Floyd was showing his house and fancy items and made the statement "The difference between me and everybody else...my sh%t is paid for, what about yours!" Basically in a way of calling out other boxers, celebs and in a manner he showed low-class stating that to viewers and the majority are average working class people. That's a cold statement to make especially at the time where the real estate market was forclosing at the highest rate ever on homes in the U.S. and even banks were going under as a result. You have people losing everything, homeless and an economy compared to the great depression.
You reap what you sow. The Marquez post fight interview with Mayweather a reporter stated "According to USA today, Oscar De La Hoya paid your 6 million tax bill to keep the IRS from swooping in and taking your money. In what way does that indebt you to Oscar De La Hoya?" Floyd responded  "Sorry I don't know what you're talking about sir,anymore questions?" Some laughed about it and then Mayweather added, "I'm not worried... I'm not about on your personal business, why you're about on my personal business." He was just showing the world his high style living and what he owns, now he wants privacy in that area. Does this sound hypocritical to anyone?
Apparently he wants to flaunt the all good and pretty and keep quiet and private bad and ugly.
Does he realize he called this out on himself?
Apparently Floyd Money Mayweather technically didn't own all that stuff he flaunted on HBO 24/7 if he owed the IRS 6.2 million back taxes. The items he claimed "he paid for", technically the IRS "paid for" and therefore he was showing off the government's sh%t!
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Posted: 6/21/2011 10:45:03 PM

Here are the video clips for those who would like to see Mayweather creating his own dilemma. First is the 24/7 clip at the very beginning where he make the statement about "paid for". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnQTiSRhU_Y&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL The next clip is at 17:35 in the clip when the reporter ask him the IRS question. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc7LlV1drHU

ENJOY!

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Posted: 6/21/2011 11:55:16 PM
Listen man, you have absolutely no idea what the hell you are talking about. I'm going to try to not insult your opinion (which I somewhat share) but your collection of facts if so far off base it's comical.

Ready? 

The IRS never owned any of his garbage. They can place a bullshit lean to force payment, but of course Floyd had the resources to pay the bill in full. Worst case scenario? He pays interest until he pays in full. 

Also, you don't believe that Mayweather plays a character more than anything else? Floyd became HUGE only after he developed the "Money Mayweather" persona prior to the ODLH fight. He played a the bad guy part and sold that fight more than Oscar did. This guy supports dozens and dozens of people. Without Floyd, they don't have a chance to eat. From putting his boys on staff to starting non-profits, he is responsible for feeding many families. Like him or not, that's what a real man does.

Is it possible GBP fronted him some cash at some point? Absolutely. However, why did they do that? Because Mayweather was going to make them an amount of money they couldn't have obtained without being associated with him. Consider it similar to an advance a recording artist often receives. 

Listen, you seem like an ok guy and I enjoy your posts. Just don't start speaking of things you have no idea about. 

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Posted: 6/22/2011 12:53:41 PM
In 2002, Floyd Mayweather Jr pleaded guilty to 2 charges of misdemeanor domestic violence.
In 2004, Mayweather received a 1 year suspended jail sentence, was ordered to seek counseling for “impulse control”, and fined a $1000 after being convicted for misdemeanor battery of 2 women in a Las Vegas nightclub.
In 2004, a warrant for his arrest was issued in Grand Rapids, Michigan for failure to appear at a trial. He was accused of kicking a bouncer in the head at a bar. Mayweather pleaded no contest to misdemeanor assault and battery. He was fined and ordered to perform community service.
In 2005, Floyd was found innocent in a trial for assaulting his girlfriend outside a Las Vegas club in 2003. The girlfriend, also the mother of his children, changed her story on the stand.
In 2009, Police executed a search warrant on Floyd’s house because witnesses identified Mayweather’s car leaving the scene of a shooting at a Las Vegas skating rink. Witnesses also identified one of Mayweather’s associates as the shooter.
In 2010, Floyd was charged with grand felony larceny, robbery, domestic battery and harassment. According to those authorities, Mayweather did much more than steal a phone during his argument with Josie Harris. He also allegedly pulled her hair, threw her to the floor and threatened to kill her. Just as troubling, prosecutors claim that Mayweather warned his children, Koraun and Zion, that he would beat them if they called the police.



Yup, he just "plays" the bad guy for promotional purposes.....
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Posted: 6/22/2011 3:12:52 PM
I know the play acting very well. When you play a part so long you fool yourself you are that person. Floyd naturally produces positive things. Take a majority who believe George W Bush was one of the worst president. Yes, they can show many bad decisions, yet you can take away the positive legislative acts he passed. I'm not saying Floyd is a bad guy. Also, IRS regulations, I know the law more than well, I was stating a point without making it a law lesson. I could continue, but we get the picture!
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Posted: 6/22/2011 8:34:00 PM

walktheline: I posted another thread in response to me having no idea. I hope you read or seen them. Naturally I can't express my entire opinion in a thread and expect anyone to totally understand it. I was making a point that he seems to over step the bounds where it doesn't add to anything. I been involved over 20 years with boxing, regards to fighting and promotional aspects. Same for MMA but back then living in NY they banned not only the UFC but the PPV events to being viewed before legislature got involved. Had to go to NJ or MA locally if we wanted a match. NJ had the japanese format (like Pride) with ring ropes and shoes were allowed. It was strange, but back to the point. I slightly remember the Oscar issue that was a rape then a sexual assault, etc..., but I didn't follow it much or give it much thought. I see gamblingallday had posted a rap sheet regarding Mayweather. I was familiar with the instances posted as they were headline news especially 2009 and 2010. I also realize Mayweather's fights and promotions help feed families and that is a great thing, but remember also that it is a trickle-down effect.

Drugs: I didn't post it earlier but Floyd has a set on him, as his camp speaks for him stating Manny uses steroids. Floyd wanted all the tests. The only person shown to have used was Floyd. It has been stated that Xylocaine has been used for a decade by Mayweather. People assume because it's not steroids that it's not helpful or cheating. If you can numb pain (especially is you get it in your hands), apparently there is a benefit and it is considered cheating. In Las Vegas it's legal, but illegal in Texas and many states. There are many reasons I call out Floyd's integrity, I just posted a popular one I found with video that seemed funny. If Floyd owed money he couldn't pay at the time, then that's why they seize assets. I know Floyd's money generation makes that amount small, but it was more the statements he made and taking offense after being questioned. If your income is one generated from being in the spotlight, then you must expect media to be in your business. You want to profit from it but not pay the toll. He could have simply said yes I have a monetary issue that recently happened and I'm going to reconcile that accordingly with my accountant and attorneys. Over and done. It's hard on the spot being called out, but that's life when you do interviews.

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Posted: 6/23/2011 11:52:42 AM
good vs evil if pac and floyd ever go at - would lean evil up to -150 or so
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Posted: 6/23/2011 7:19:16 PM

They had props Maywether -150 Manny +130... it seems accurate. I agree on that wager, and prop Mayweather by decision.

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Posted: 6/25/2011 7:17:43 PM
nc1capper: Good vs Evil (lol), nice touch. That's a funny remark. Mayweather I guess I would of used bad, Evil maybe a tad harsh, even though it's rhetorical. Even though I posted a few rough remarks on Mayweather, I don't take forget the point that promotion plays. For the record, during the gag order, Manny agreed to testing up to the fight, although prior he wouldn't test within 2 weeks. Mayweather's camp denies it and several of the so called possible contracts for the fights saying they never talked, but the independent 3rd party did speak up admitting there were talks, but didn't say specifics.
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Posted: 6/29/2011 1:52:30 AM
Mayweather is overrated!  Always finds an excuse to avoid fights he knows he can't win!  He should just stick with professional wrestling, that way he can script all his fights! LOL!
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Posted: 6/29/2011 12:19:53 PM
The only time I agreed with Mayweather making a fighter wait or think he might not fight was Mosley. When they both started, Mosley rose to fame quick and with the Oscar wins to superstar. Mayweather was #1 on all lists be he found other fighters to fight. Then when Mayweather returned against Marquez, Mosley was pressing for a fight and then stepped in the ring 1 minute after the decision was announced and grabbed the mic and said the world wants to see us fight after his Margarito victory. Floyd basically said step up and show a little respect, maybe the only time I agree with Mayweather on his attitude and his statement. I don't think Floyd avoids he can't win, but more fights that could cause several difficulties. I feel he can beat anyone, but he makes it easier instead of fighting the very best every time. That's why in a statement I said although Oscar was over-rated and failed to win in big fights against the best fighters, he still fought everyone and did everything to make it happen.
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Posted: 6/30/2011 2:36:13 AM
HI_5-0: I don't think Mayweather is over-rated. Is he great? Yes. Is he currently the best pound-for-pound? I think so (top 3), but the problem lies just like you stated in your post... his competition. Take a look at who he hasn't fought and who he did. He never fought the likes of Manny Pacqiuao, Amir Khan, Paul Williams, Antonio Margarito, Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Miguel Cotto, Joshua Clottey and a few bigger guys that would have dropped weight such as Winky Wright and Sergio Martinez. Starting a decade ago he beat Diego Corrales, Castillo, Zab, Oscar (34, was way his great days but fought well that night), Hatton (lol, c'mon), Marquez (36, past his day and above his weight class) and Mosley (38, low stamina and not the fast counter-puncher he was when he fought Oscar). I named 10 fighters he somehow missed and then fought the best of his competition against guys in their late 30's. Manny fought and fights anyone and everyone, and he wins in spectacular fashion most of the time. Sergio is very gifted and fights whoever and comes to put on a show. He beat Cintron, KO'd Williams in a rematch where he lost a majority decision (that was a toss-up, even fight) and beat Pavlik with ease. He destroyed undefeated Dzinziruk with a 8th round TKO knocking him down 5 times! Also, besides the popular 3 (Mayweather, Pacquiao & Martinez), you can include Khan, Williams, Bute, Ward, Hopkins (the ageless wonder) and the recently retired Joe Calzaghe (who dominated Kessler and Hopkins). Unfortunately Calzaghe's division wasn't amped with talent at the time but he proved his place against Kessler and Hopkins.   So, Mayweather has the skills, proved it in his fights but falls short on proving consistency against the great competition (The sad part is many times people say a fighter was around when there wasn't many talented fighters in his weight class... NOT TRUE for Mayweather. He had the opportunity to take on several excellent fighters in their prime but didn't seize the opportunity. All he had to do was fight 3 or 4 of the ten I listed and if he won convincingly then the argument would be much different.) The END !!!
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Posted: 7/2/2011 1:57:45 PM
Thanks for pointing out the obvious and what no one besides you and Max Kellerman mention. His weak record. Compare his competition to say Sugar Ray Leonard, one of the best welterweights ever, along with Tommy Hearns.. You wouldnt stop laughing for three days. I disagree with you about whether Floyd is a bad guy. His racist tirade against Pacquiao is all you need to know about Floyd and the people who influenced him. That You tube tirade pretty much made him a bad guy in my eyes.
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