Is this a dumb idea?

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lordspoint PM lordspoint
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:34:40 PM
Ok, so we have high gas prices right now.
Should we as a nation always have in our own country, on the market, ready for consumption, X amount of gas so the price stays steady. This would mean companies cannot sell their gas elsewhere unless we are at that threshold.
I know we have our reserves but I am not talking about those.
I know gas taxes add to the price but I am not talking about that right now.
I know speculators drive up the gas price (not my area of expertise) but leave them out of the equation if that's possible.
We have plenty of gas so why can we not control our own destiny?
Maybe I am over simplifying but it came up at work today and thought I would get the forums thoughts
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dl36 PM dl36
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:37:15 PM
So are you saying that gas should be run/controlled by the government?
lordspoint PM lordspoint
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:46:43 PM
I am not personally saying anything actually. I am repeating what was discussed at work but I suppose yes, it would be something to that effect
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lordspoint PM lordspoint
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:52:47 PM
I guess the premise was that to stabilize the price and free us from OPEC then we should always have x amount of gas on the market. But can we really but a true # on what X amount should be with the ebbs and flows of demand?
I don't have the answers just looking for opinions from you guys.
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Randisist PM Randisist
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:58:34 PM
If the government took control of the oil and gas companies and nationalized them it would be great!!! Then we could have free gas cards!!!

Medical taken care of...
Food provided...
Section 8 housing...
Monthly check so we have cash/folding money...
Government Lifeline program for free broadband and cellphone..

Kick in a government gas card...

Just realized that we need a program that provides an automobile.
Ktrain PM Ktrain
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Posted: 3/28/2012 10:01:44 PM
I think one way to lower gas cost could be to use less gas. I.E. better forms of public transportation or walking/riding bikes more frequently. 

Unfortunately I do not follow any of my own suggestions and feel semi-hypocritical for even suggesting them. 

I do however drive a four banger that gets good gas mileage.....and of course it's not American. 
lordspoint PM lordspoint
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Posted: 3/28/2012 10:04:12 PM
Ha ha rand.
Good points. Nationalization is dangerous indeed.
Any solutions to find a price control method so we have stability?
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wallstreetcappers PM wallstreetcappers
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Posted: 3/28/2012 10:05:46 PM
Using less gas wont break the monopoly in the short term, especially with speculators leveraging the hell out of it off the rumps of the consumer.

To break a monopoly you have to be self sufficient with supply and not reliant on the monopoly.

It is too bad that speculators would also destroy what potential we really have, which is Natural Gas.

Say the government subsidized every single vehicle and add help to provide a nationwide network so we could access it with abundant supply..

Speculators would ramp the hell out of NG like they did in 2008.

Get the speculators out..that is one thing we can do, but we wont.

SarasotaSlim PM SarasotaSlim
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Posted: 3/29/2012 12:10:39 AM
ALGAE ..........
bowlslit PM bowlslit
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Posted: 3/29/2012 12:36:12 AM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by lordspoint:

Ha ha rand.
Good points. Nationalization is dangerous indeed.
Any solutions to find a price control method so we have stability?

My understanding of the only drawback to the hydrogen fuel cell is the explosion hazard. Im not sure.

So if we could just find a way to protect the hydrogen tank from the worst possible car wreck....maybe make the walls of the tank 3 inches thick or somthing.

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