Trivia- In which sport is there the greatest correlation between spending money on players and wins?

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Posted: 4/30/2012 3:28:27 PM
has to be baseball

I have data somewhere that I need to find that shows something like the top 10 payrolls have made the playoffs 65% of the time over the past 5 years or something
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Posted: 4/30/2012 3:29:14 PM
The person that said soccer is probably correct. I was thinking of the 4 major US sports.
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Posted: 4/30/2012 3:31:07 PM
Soccer and not even close 



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Posted: 4/30/2012 3:36:49 PM
yes.  soccer. 

what about of the 4 major american sports?
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Posted: 4/30/2012 3:40:18 PM

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Posted: 4/30/2012 3:53:30 PM
I don't know that you could even begin to calculate a meaningful conclusion.  There are so many random elements like injuries.  Length of the playing season is key, so my guess would be football.
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Posted: 4/30/2012 4:01:04 PM

Soccer

 

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Posted: 4/30/2012 4:17:10 PM
This is data from 1995-2008. I am sure if it was updated with data from 2009-2011 it would hold pretty consistent.

Since, I think 162 games is a better barometer of trends I have chosen to look at playoff teams to see the impact of payroll dollars. Here are some interesting stats.

There have been 112 playoff teams since 1995. The average payroll ranking of a playoff team is 9.88

The top payroll team has made the playoffs 79% of the time.
The top 5 payroll teams (or roughly 17% of of the league) have accounted for 31% of the 112 playoff teams
The top 10 payroll teams have accounted for 60% of the 112 playoff teams
The top 15 payroll teams have accounted for 78% of the 112 playoff teams

Conversely,
The bottom 10 payroll teams (or roughly 1/3) have accounted for 12% of the 112 playoff teams.
The bottom 5 payroll teams have accounted for 8% of the 112 playoff teams.


What I am saying for 2009 is:

50% of the playoff teams were from the top 7 teams in payroll.
62.5% of the playoff teams came from the top 10 payroll teams.
87.5% of the payroll teams (7 of 8) came from the top 18 payrolled teams.
12.5% or one team came from the bottom 12 payrolled teams.

I think you can see that the majority of playoff teams come from top 10 in payroll. Another way to look at this is that of the top 9 payroll teams 50% made the playoffs. Of the bottom 21 teams 14% made the playoffs. That trend is pretty consistent with the past 15 years.
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Posted: 4/30/2012 4:52:24 PM
1. NHL
2. MLB
3. NBA
4. NFL


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Posted: 4/30/2012 5:07:09 PM
final trivia question, which covers poster has the lowest correlation between money gambled and wins? 
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Posted: 4/30/2012 5:16:26 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Posted: 4/30/2012 6:04:17 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

final trivia question, which covers poster has the lowest correlation between money gambled and wins? 

 

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Posted: 4/30/2012 6:17:53 PM
caca, gilmo 

here's the article.  i don't think they were focusing on playoffs but a more general study or wins and money spent
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Posted: 4/30/2012 7:31:03 PM
That article leaves a lot to be desired... I really want to know WHY the NHL is #1... WHY?!?!?  What is it about the salary cap in the NHL that doesn't level the playing field as much as the NFL?  It can't be that there just isn't as much depth in the athletic pool, and that you must buy the elite players to have a good team, there are plenty of good young hockey players out there... so WHY?  WHY!?!
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Posted: 4/30/2012 7:32:01 PM
Hey dirt - what do you take away from that poem that you quote in your avatar?
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Posted: 4/30/2012 7:58:59 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

final trivia question, which covers poster has the lowest correlation between money gambled and wins? 
Poo ?
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Posted: 4/30/2012 8:26:30 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

final trivia question, which covers poster has the lowest correlation between money gambled and wins? 


real wagers or fake renegar wagers?
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