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Posted: 3/23/2012 10:44:13 AM
Since the last thread essentially got ruined and bogged down in alias accusations, thought I would re-post this.  

Eric Holder wants to brainwash your children.
Eric Holder's Brainwashing comments in the context of F + F 
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Posted: 3/23/2012 10:56:11 AM

Holder is Obama's Donald Rumsfeld.  The idea of teaching youths the dangers of guns is actually a good thing.  We try to teach youngsters about cigarettes, alcohol and drugs.

But his choice of words was alarming.  Since when should ANY government official use the word "Brainwashing"?  Isn't that what Hitler tried. 

Holder's mistakes are adding up, just like Rumsfield.  If Obama was smart, he'd cut him loose right now.

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Posted: 3/23/2012 12:16:36 PM

Yeah,I think "brainwash' was a poor word choice.I think we may be playing on the semantics of this more than is necessary,however.

Sounded like Holder's comments were designed specificaly toward the inner cities and African American communities of youth.

Holder mentioned the 'fascination' that a lot of youths have with carrying guns.
We all know how impressionable kids can be !

I didn't interpret Holder's comments as if he thinks 'responsible adults' shouldn't be permitted to exercise the 2nd Amendment. (I admit I do not know what Holder's feeling about this is).

BRAINWASH - sounded to me like he just simply wants to better educate children about the danger of guns and in the process simply "give them a better perspective." Again,I understand the opinion that he used poor word choice. I'm not convinced of a nefarious agenda as of yet.(~_^)

As for F+F, I would like to read more about why anyone may have suspicions about what the actual mission was.

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Posted: 3/23/2012 12:26:07 PM
Oakley, your assesment may be fair, and everybody is entitled to a few mistakes or slips of the tongue.  But Holder has made many mistakes.  One has to think that he's not the right guy for a job that is one of the most important in the country.
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Posted: 3/23/2012 12:31:15 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by promark12:

Oakley, your assesment may be fair, and everybody is entitled to a few mistakes or slips of the tongue.  But Holder has made many mistakes.  One has to think that he's not the right guy for a job that is one of the most important in the country.
I've written about this last week in which I asserted that If I knew about Holder like I do now as it pertains to his position - I wouldn't have voted him in that position if I had the option.
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Posted: 3/23/2012 12:35:32 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by promark12:

Oakley, your assesment may be fair, and everybody is entitled to a few mistakes or slips of the tongue.  But Holder has made many mistakes.  One has to think that he's not the right guy for a job that is one of the most important in the country.

promark12,
I would enjoy reading your comments about the 'many mistakes' that Holder has made.
Please explain your difference in philosophy as well as how Holder has served in violation of his lawful duties.
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Posted: 3/23/2012 12:38:36 PM
Again,
as a responsible adult, I'll be darned if I'm going to accept not having the right of the 2nd Amendment !
And yes,that RIGHT - NOT a PRIVILEGE
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Posted: 3/23/2012 1:37:58 PM
Holder gave Miranda rights to the shoe bomber. Enough said.
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Posted: 3/23/2012 2:17:13 PM
Man, you guys are really taking it easy on him. 

He wanted to roll out an agenda of brainwashing,  repetitively enforcing the ideals he set forth.  That garbage is just plain wrong.  The fact that he wanted to undermine the 2nd amendment by brainwashing children (who now are of voting age) is disturbing. 

More disturbing than that Oakely? 

How about the thousands of dead Mexicans, and the dead United States Law enforcement personnel that were victims of the cartels that benefited from the justice departments gun walking fiasco in Fast and Furious, and operation gunrunner.

How about perjury when hauled in front of congress to testify about said operations? 

None of that bothers you guys? 
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Posted: 3/23/2012 2:36:04 PM

Fast and Furious let major suspect go Free!!!!!

This is OUR Attorney General !!!!!!  A must watch. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZkRO6-3CDM

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Posted: 3/23/2012 6:25:42 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rick3117:

Man, you guys are really taking it easy on him. 

He wanted to roll out an agenda of brainwashing,  repetitively enforcing the ideals he set forth.  That garbage is just plain wrong.  The fact that he wanted to undermine the 2nd amendment by brainwashing children (who now are of voting age) is disturbing. 

More disturbing than that Oakely? 

How about the thousands of dead Mexicans, and the dead United States Law enforcement personnel that were victims of the cartels that benefited from the justice departments gun walking fiasco in Fast and Furious, and operation gunrunner.

How about perjury when hauled in front of congress to testify about said operations? 

None of that bothers you guys? 
Rick, I'm still not willing to believe that Holder wants to do anything besides 'wash' the fascination out and off of the minds of misguided youth.This is different than trying to indoctrinate people for their entire lifetime.

As far as Fast and Furious : I hadn't followed that situation,and thereby
wanted someone to elaborate their opinion as to the facts.

If the mission was a success would you feel the same way ?

Do you not agree with that operation in part or in its entirety ?

If Holder took responsibilty for the failure rather than having committed perjury (has he in fact ?),would you feel any different otherwise ?
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Posted: 3/24/2012 9:44:32 AM
He wants to use a federal platform to beat his beliefs into impressionable youths. This is not different from indoctrination.  It is the god-damned definition of indoctrination. 

The fact that anyone in this country is not mad as hell over this fiasco is just a testament to the brain-dead masses, caring more about superficial bullshit, than outright treason happening in front of their faces.

Honestly if you have not followed the situation it is going to be kind of hard to catch you up here.  

Essentially the ATF ordered local gun shops to illegally sell weapons.  After that took place, they let the weapons "walk" meaning they let them disappear.  

Thousands of weapons went to the drug cartels.  They have killed thousands in Mexico and a couple of our law enforcement agents.  

While this was taking place Obama did this:  Link 
And This was reported (pay close attention)  .  

Now,  the department of justice was involved in a cross-border operation.  Something that has to be approved (constitutionally) by the highest offices to be legal.  It is inconceivable that Obama did not know about this. 

Holder knew, or if he didn't he has presided over a DOJ that has gone rogue and he has no control and is inept.  Either way he should be done.  Most likely he should be in jail. 
Testimony  Testimony   ISSA 
Testimony ATF 


This is about 1000X bigger than Watergate because so many Mexicans were killed, not to mention our own law enforcement.  

IT is a travesty, just simply pathetic that nothing is happening to these guys.  

If the mission was successful?  
The mission was a stupid idea to start with. IT had zero chance of success.  

Do I agree with the operation? 
No, we should enforce our laws, and not supply mexican cartels with thousands of guns, then have our president get on tv the next week and say we need to pass laws restricting our 2nd amendment rights because Mexican Cartels are getting guns.  

I would feel different if Holder spent the rest of his days in a jail cell.  How he can live with himself is beyond me. 


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Posted: 3/24/2012 9:51:15 AM
Read this slowly. 

The Holder/Obama justice department purposefully ordered guns to be sold to Mexican cartels,
Obama got in front of the Country with Mexico's president to push for 2nd Amendment Reforms because American Guns were being sold to Mexican cartels. 

Are we really going to sit here and pretend that These men did not know about this operation?  

Is that really what this is boiling down to ? 


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Posted: 3/24/2012 12:22:59 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rick3117:

Read this slowly. 

The Holder/Obama justice department purposefully ordered guns to be sold to Mexican cartels,
Obama got in front of the Country with Mexico's president to push for 2nd Amendment Reforms because American Guns were being sold to Mexican cartels. 

Are we really going to sit here and pretend that These men did not know about this operation?  

Is that really what this is boiling down to ? 


RICK, THANX for your passion and adamancy !!!!
I'm in accord with you now that I've been informed.
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Posted: 3/24/2012 12:57:39 PM
The administration will downplay it until at least after the election.  And the Lamestream Media will follow suit.  I didn't myself think this was such a serious thing till you brought it to my attention, Rick.  Just another reason I couldn't fathom voting for Obama.
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Posted: 3/24/2012 3:37:36 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by OakleyDoak:

RICK, THANX for your passion and adamancy !!!!
I'm in accord with you now that I've been informed.

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