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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:31:12 PM

Everyone is so cofident that USC can win their conference, but I just don't think they can beat Oregon again

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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:57:32 PM
Many people think that Darron thomas left the ducks because Chip Kelly wouldn't garantee that he would start this year over Brian Bennett. Therefore I would say they are in good hands with Bennett.  In the USC game last year most of the offense cam in the third quarter from Kenjan Barner after LaMichael James left the game with an elbow issue. USC couldn't handle Barner for one quarter, skimming a victory by 3 points after Barner and De'Anthony Thomas brought them back from almost a 20 point gap. Now that James is gone they will get Barner for 4 quarters. Oh hey, Oregon also picked up Byron Marshall. No doubt he will be a huge factor. In their matchup last year Oregon had their top reciever and their two best defensive lineman out with injuries as well. The weekness for the Ducks last year was their passing game. This year it will be one of their top assets.  This could be the year that the Duck's defense finally catches up with the offense. Everyone is forgetting that with all their starters healthy last year Oregon destroyed the two teams that beat USC, Stanford and Arizona State. I have to say I can't believe they lost to Arizona state, one of the worst teams in the pac-12.
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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:59:25 PM
USC is Overrated!!
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Posted: 3/20/2012 6:23:47 PM
Going to be hard to beat Oregon twice, even if they stay healthy.
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Posted: 3/20/2012 6:50:17 PM

If SC, by some miracle, wins over the Ducks I will definately be cheering for the Trojans to unseat the SEC. Who is your team?

 

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Posted: 3/25/2012 4:45:58 PM

Pac 12 is going to fun to watch with Rich Rod and Leach back in the mix.....2 great offensive coaches in a conference where defense is optional.

Oregon and UW can run up the score as well.

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Posted: 3/26/2012 1:05:13 AM
I am dieing to see what Mike Leach can do with a UW team.  The Pac-12 has definately hit the gas on performance over the last few year, but I think the 2011 season was huge in elevating the conference. I hope we see a play off system in 2014. It will put an end to the SEC bias and give teams like Boise State a chance to prove themselves against overhyped SEC teams.
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Posted: 3/30/2012 12:13:23 AM

USC will have the best team in the country this year, 0 or 1 loss and then win the big game

 

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Posted: 3/30/2012 8:58:58 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by chef702:

Pac 12 is going to fun to watch with Rich Rod and Leach back in the mix.....2 great offensive coaches in a conference where defense is optional.

Oregon and UW can run up the score as well.

I agree that the PAC 12 should be fun to watch in the years to come.

 

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Posted: 3/30/2012 9:17:08 AM
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USC is Overrated!!

I agree that USC is probably slightly overrated.  I say that not because they won't have a very talented starting 22, but because they are anorexically thin behind those 22.  That said, if USC can make it to the national championship game, with the six-week Sabbatical that precedes the game, roster depth will be much less of a factor.  The trick for USC will be staying healthy enough throughout the season to get to the national championship game.  Personally I don't think they'll make it.  I like the Ducks to win the PAC 12.

 

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Posted: 3/31/2012 2:21:22 AM

I think the Ducks will win a 4th strait conference title, but if anyone stands a chance to stop them it is USC. SC is said to have the best passing game in the country, but it is yet to be seen. I might be more convinced if it were anything but speculation. The, usually wrong, sports analysts made the same predictions about Andrew luck and the Cardinal, aswell as Landry Jones and the Sooners. I think USC is overrated because of depth, but most importantly because the analysts are basing the Trojan offense off of what they SHOULD have, not what has been seen. Pulling off a 3 point squeeker over Oregon doesn't suddenly make you a National contender! I have no doubt that Oregon and SC can out compete any SEC team on the Offense side of the ball, but the SEC is known for amazing defense.  Oregon stands the better chance at the National Championship, but they will need to be unpredictable against a good SEC defense, but I guess that is what Chip Kelly is known for!! I would like to see the Pac-12 play against the Big -12 for the Nat.

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Posted: 3/31/2012 10:34:10 AM

When you return a QB who is the consensus 2012 Heisman favorite as well as the favorite to be the first overall pick in the 2013 NFL draft, and the #1 receiver in the country, expectations for USC this season are understandably very high.  And that's before we talk about the emergence of the other receiver Marqise Lee, and the guy toting the rock Curtis McNeal.  So there is no question they are loaded with weapons on the offensive side of the ball.  Their question mark on offense will be how will a relatively young offensive line hold up, and can they stay healthy.

Other than placing the pressure of high expectations on USC, what opinion pudits express of them will have little effect on how they play on the field IMO.

I could see a scenario where the SEC is left out of the national championship picture, but it will require Alabama, LSU, and maybe Arkansas two lose 2 games each.  That probably won't happen, but it could.

 

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Posted: 3/31/2012 12:18:48 PM
No, it probably wouldn't, but it is just what I would like to see. I agree with your comments about USC and the passing game. As I said I won't argue that they most likely have the #1 or #2 offense behind or ahead of oregon. I have witnessed it year after year, that it is more of a burden to labeled the "team to beat" I like were the ducks are sitting, and think it is a benefit for a team to enter the season somewhere in the top 10, but not #1 or even #2. I think the determining factor for USC and the Ducks will be witch coach has set up the better system. I still believe that despite all the incredible talent on the field for the Duck, their most important asset is Chip Kelly. Who always seems to find the perfect guy for each position, and put together the most explosive offense in the nation.
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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:02:28 AM

I am in agreement with you.  While I'm confident that the Trojans will be a very good team next season, I like the Ducks to win the PAC 12.

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Posted: 4/1/2012 2:25:52 AM
Because of the dominance on defense a lot of people underestimate the SEC on offense. LSU scored 40 & 47 respectively against Oregon and West Virginia, two BCS Bowl Winners.

Also, check out how many offensive players the SEC puts out as opposed to any other conference. 
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Posted: 4/1/2012 12:41:47 PM
What I mean is that it is not unheard of for a team in the SEC to have a productive offense, but it is not what they are known for. Look at both LSU, Bama games last year. They were both defensive shootouts. The Pac-12 is known for explosive offenses. The SEC can shut down a good offense because of the defenses they produce, then beat you with their special teams. Pac-12 teams tend to have these high scoring games, because they are the exact oposite. They haven't tryed as hard to develope great defenses in the past. They just put up as many points as they can, as fast as they can. Some comments that have been made by Ducks players to reporters indicate some good changes for the their defense, but Chip Kelly closed spring practice. The reason I give the victory to Oregon over SC is because of their  offense sure, but even more because of their defense. That conferense is not known for defense. When the Ducks suddenly show up with a great defense it will take everyone by suprise.
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Posted: 4/1/2012 5:09:36 PM
The Ducks are going to need a better defense if they want to beat USC.  Does anyone know if they are suppose to be better this year?
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Posted: 4/1/2012 7:53:41 PM
They are supposed to be much improved in interviews many of the players have stated that this is going to be the best Ducks defense they have ever seen. They will have a much improved defensive backfield with a couple guys, that if you can believe it, run the 40 faster that DeAnthony Thomas. The D-line has been bulked up, and has a strong side defensive end named Erik Armstead, most likely starting this year, that is known for dominating QB.  Many people believe that this is the year that the Duck's defense will finally be as good as the offense.
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Posted: 4/2/2012 7:40:13 PM
I will admit, when I'm not watching LSU I want to see a 50-49 score. It is more entertaining for a fan with nothing at stake.

It is different when it is your team. I know that 9-6 LSU/Bama game would have been boring for the avg fan but I was on the edge of my seat the entire game.
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Posted: 4/2/2012 10:37:39 PM
I was pretty excited in the first LSU Bama game. It was just too big of a showdown. All the tension that built up to it was more than anyone could deny, regardless of who their team is.  Unfortunately it was a little boring, and I thought, "well there is no way that could happen twice!" I guess that was just the way it was supposed to turn out because the second one was a replay of the first.  Wisconsin and Oregon had me on the edge of my seat in the Rose bowl. I am an Oregon fan, but Montee Ball just wouldn't quit!! He deserves credit!! The Duck's helments were sweet!!
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Posted: 6/10/2012 9:45:16 PM
I didn't realize the Ducks D is anticipated to be that much better than last year.  Why is that so?  Do they have upgraded personnel, or did they just not lose anybody and so they are all veterans now?  
I have to give the nod to USC, and the reason is how they were playing at the end of the year last season -- they were the best offensive team in CFB last November IMO and all of their playmakers are back.  Additionally, their recruiting has been phenomenal considering they have been on probation - the Trojans have better talent in numbers at most positions.  But we shall see, if Ducks defense is really a lot better this year, not a little better but a lot better, then they could win it all.
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