exactly WSC
The GOP has been nothin but hypocrites ever since I started voting. Always extolling true conservative values but never followin thru & GWB was the worst. Instead, catering to the wealthy/corp America, panderin to the religious right for support & gettin involved in short-sighted ridiculous military conflicts while keeping the industrial military complex beefed up to extremely unneccessary levels.
exactly WSC
The GOP has been nothin but hypocrites ever since I started voting. Always extolling true conservative values but never followin thru & GWB was the worst. Instead, catering to the wealthy/corp America, panderin to the religious right for support & gettin involved in short-sighted ridiculous military conflicts while keeping the industrial military complex beefed up to extremely unneccessary levels.
WSC -
Couldn't have said it as well myself. And despite our soldiers being proud volunteers or not (tho many go into the milatary for different reasons), all I know is when your dead, you're gone from this life, period. No chance to grow & develop as a person, raise a fam, be a support or husband/wife/son/daughter & to live your life. Not to mention all the needless, innocent Iraqi lives lost which is just as tragic.
WSC -
Couldn't have said it as well myself. And despite our soldiers being proud volunteers or not (tho many go into the milatary for different reasons), all I know is when your dead, you're gone from this life, period. No chance to grow & develop as a person, raise a fam, be a support or husband/wife/son/daughter & to live your life. Not to mention all the needless, innocent Iraqi lives lost which is just as tragic.
It was the United States Congress who voted for the resolution to authorize the invasion of Iraq..it was the United States Senators who Ok'ed the war without reading the key report...
Sen.Hillary Rodham Clinton did not read the 90-page, classified National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq,... The Washington Post reported in 2004 that no more than six senators and a handful of House members were logged as reading the document.
Clinton is one of six presidential candidates who were in the Senate in October 2002 who voted for the resolution to authorize the invasion of Iraq.
These are the people who leveraged death of future generations to stop that big bad boogie man Saddam...Not I, WSC..........
It was the United States Congress who voted for the resolution to authorize the invasion of Iraq..it was the United States Senators who Ok'ed the war without reading the key report...
Sen.Hillary Rodham Clinton did not read the 90-page, classified National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq,... The Washington Post reported in 2004 that no more than six senators and a handful of House members were logged as reading the document.
Clinton is one of six presidential candidates who were in the Senate in October 2002 who voted for the resolution to authorize the invasion of Iraq.
These are the people who leveraged death of future generations to stop that big bad boogie man Saddam...Not I, WSC..........
It was the United States Congress who voted for the resolution to authorize the invasion of Iraq..it was the United States Senators who Ok'ed the war without reading the key report...
Sen.Hillary Rodham Clinton did not read the 90-page, classified National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq,... The Washington Post reported in 2004 that no more than six senators and a handful of House members were logged as reading the document.
Clinton is one of six presidential candidates who were in the Senate in October 2002 who voted for the resolution to authorize the invasion of Iraq.
These are the people who leveraged death of future generations to stop that big bad boogie man Saddam...Not I, WSC..........
It was the United States Congress who voted for the resolution to authorize the invasion of Iraq..it was the United States Senators who Ok'ed the war without reading the key report...
Sen.Hillary Rodham Clinton did not read the 90-page, classified National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq,... The Washington Post reported in 2004 that no more than six senators and a handful of House members were logged as reading the document.
Clinton is one of six presidential candidates who were in the Senate in October 2002 who voted for the resolution to authorize the invasion of Iraq.
These are the people who leveraged death of future generations to stop that big bad boogie man Saddam...Not I, WSC..........
WSC,
You said "I am glad YOU support the leveraged death of future generations to stop that big bad boogie man Saddam."
My support or lack of support like Barack Obama who was a member rof the Illinois Senate and not able to vote on authorizing the invasion of Iraq...or had access to Congressional Intell ...;
But if you are saying the US Congress should rely on the media for their information to commit you troops to war and not top congressional intelligence reports .........you are reeeealy grasping for straws .........and not as schmart as some here including myself ..give you credit for .................
WSC,
You said "I am glad YOU support the leveraged death of future generations to stop that big bad boogie man Saddam."
My support or lack of support like Barack Obama who was a member rof the Illinois Senate and not able to vote on authorizing the invasion of Iraq...or had access to Congressional Intell ...;
But if you are saying the US Congress should rely on the media for their information to commit you troops to war and not top congressional intelligence reports .........you are reeeealy grasping for straws .........and not as schmart as some here including myself ..give you credit for .................
In 2004 the Senate Intelligence Committee said, in a report adopted unanimously by both Republican and Democratic members:
Senate Intelligence Committee: The Committee did not find any evidence that intelligence analysts changed their judgments as a result of political pressure, altered or produced intelligence products to conform with Administration policy, or that anyone even attempted to coerce, influence or pressure analysts to do so. When asked whether analysts were pressured in any way to alter their assessments or make their judgments conform with Administration policies on Iraq’s WMD programs, not a single analyst answered “yes.” (p273)
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......and since the United States Congress is solely responsible for authorizing the use of force in Iraq ..and has the FINAL say ...based on wherever Congress obtains their information the media,the UN ,top secret Intelligence reports,relatives or the Oprah Winfrey Show ....it was their Call ,,their curtain call to make ..........
In 2004 the Senate Intelligence Committee said, in a report adopted unanimously by both Republican and Democratic members:
Senate Intelligence Committee: The Committee did not find any evidence that intelligence analysts changed their judgments as a result of political pressure, altered or produced intelligence products to conform with Administration policy, or that anyone even attempted to coerce, influence or pressure analysts to do so. When asked whether analysts were pressured in any way to alter their assessments or make their judgments conform with Administration policies on Iraq’s WMD programs, not a single analyst answered “yes.” (p273)
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......and since the United States Congress is solely responsible for authorizing the use of force in Iraq ..and has the FINAL say ...based on wherever Congress obtains their information the media,the UN ,top secret Intelligence reports,relatives or the Oprah Winfrey Show ....it was their Call ,,their curtain call to make ..........
The U.S. Senate voted unanimously last week to adopt a resolution apologizing for slavery.
Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, lead sponsor of the resolution, said, "You wonder why we didn't do it 100 years ago. It is important to have a collective response to a collective injustice."
Only after decades of public education ignoring and distorting U.S. history can such a huge lie be said with a straight face.
Senator, you didn't do it 100 years ago because 100 years ago you Democrats were enforcing Jim Crow segregation laws, poll taxes to keep blacks from voting, and riding around in sheets and pointy hats just in case blacks didn't get the message.
You say "It's important to have a collective response" because you want to bury the origins, purposes, and historical practices of your own party.
The worst part is, Republicans in the Senate let you get away with it.
Principled Republicans knowing their history would have authored a resolution reciting the facts that the Republican Party was formed, among other reasons, to oppose slavery and that the Republican Party and its first President Abraham Lincoln responded to Southern, Democrat-led secession with a successful war that preserved the union and freed the slaves.
After Lincoln's assassination (by a Democrat), the Republican-led Congress (over the objections of the Democratic Party minority) amended the Constitution to confirm the liberation of the slaves (13th Amendment: slavery abolished), and the 14th Amendment (freed slaves are citizens equal to all citizens) and the 15th Amendment (right to vote guaranteed to freed slaves).
Southern Democrats spent the next 100 years trying to keep freed slaves down with segregation laws, poll taxes to deny the right to vote, and lynching to enforce the social order. The KKK was formed by a Democrat; no Republican has ever been a member of the KKK. This is the heritage of the Democratic Party.
In fact, the Democratic Party was formed in the first place to defend and expand slavery.
In 1840, the very first national nominating convention of the Democratic Party adopted a platform which read in part:
Resolved, That Congress has no power ... to interfere with or control the domestic institutions of the several states ... that all efforts by abolitionists ... made to induce Congress to interfere with questions of slavery ... are calculated ... to diminish the happiness of the people, and endanger the stability and permanency of the union.
Got that, Sen. Harkin? Your party was born defending slavery as necessary for the happiness of the people and threatening secession and war if slavery were challenged
The U.S. Senate voted unanimously last week to adopt a resolution apologizing for slavery.
Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, lead sponsor of the resolution, said, "You wonder why we didn't do it 100 years ago. It is important to have a collective response to a collective injustice."
Only after decades of public education ignoring and distorting U.S. history can such a huge lie be said with a straight face.
Senator, you didn't do it 100 years ago because 100 years ago you Democrats were enforcing Jim Crow segregation laws, poll taxes to keep blacks from voting, and riding around in sheets and pointy hats just in case blacks didn't get the message.
You say "It's important to have a collective response" because you want to bury the origins, purposes, and historical practices of your own party.
The worst part is, Republicans in the Senate let you get away with it.
Principled Republicans knowing their history would have authored a resolution reciting the facts that the Republican Party was formed, among other reasons, to oppose slavery and that the Republican Party and its first President Abraham Lincoln responded to Southern, Democrat-led secession with a successful war that preserved the union and freed the slaves.
After Lincoln's assassination (by a Democrat), the Republican-led Congress (over the objections of the Democratic Party minority) amended the Constitution to confirm the liberation of the slaves (13th Amendment: slavery abolished), and the 14th Amendment (freed slaves are citizens equal to all citizens) and the 15th Amendment (right to vote guaranteed to freed slaves).
Southern Democrats spent the next 100 years trying to keep freed slaves down with segregation laws, poll taxes to deny the right to vote, and lynching to enforce the social order. The KKK was formed by a Democrat; no Republican has ever been a member of the KKK. This is the heritage of the Democratic Party.
In fact, the Democratic Party was formed in the first place to defend and expand slavery.
In 1840, the very first national nominating convention of the Democratic Party adopted a platform which read in part:
Resolved, That Congress has no power ... to interfere with or control the domestic institutions of the several states ... that all efforts by abolitionists ... made to induce Congress to interfere with questions of slavery ... are calculated ... to diminish the happiness of the people, and endanger the stability and permanency of the union.
Got that, Sen. Harkin? Your party was born defending slavery as necessary for the happiness of the people and threatening secession and war if slavery were challenged
he same party platform language was used in 1844, 1848, 1852 and 1856. In 1860, the Democrat commitment to slavery took a harsher tone.
The Fugitive Slave Law was passed by Congress in 1850. This monstrous law provided that, since slaves were the personal property of their masters, runaway slaves must be returned to their owners. The law required all law enforcement officers to assist in the recapture of runaway slaves or risk a fine of $1,000 (about $100,000 in today's dollars)!
The Republican Party was formed in the 1850s in part as a political reaction to this unjust law.
In their national convention of 1860, Democrats harshly responded to certain Northern (Republican) states that were passing state laws to evade the Fugitive Slave Law by adopting a plank in the Democratic Party Platform which read:
Resolved, That the enactments of the State Legislatures to defeat the faithful execution of the Fugitive Slave Law, are hostile in character, subversive of the Constitution, and revolutionary in their effect.
Senator, your Democratic Party has much to be apologetic about on the slavery issue.
During the civil war, the Southern Democrats led the Confederacy out of the Union; Northern Democrats formed a separate party which opposed the war. The 1864 (Northern) Democratic Party platform adopted a "peace" plank which read in part:
... after four years of failure to restore the union by the experiment of war ... justice, humanity, liberty, and the public welfare demand ... a cessation of hostilities ... to the end that ... peace may be restored ...
he same party platform language was used in 1844, 1848, 1852 and 1856. In 1860, the Democrat commitment to slavery took a harsher tone.
The Fugitive Slave Law was passed by Congress in 1850. This monstrous law provided that, since slaves were the personal property of their masters, runaway slaves must be returned to their owners. The law required all law enforcement officers to assist in the recapture of runaway slaves or risk a fine of $1,000 (about $100,000 in today's dollars)!
The Republican Party was formed in the 1850s in part as a political reaction to this unjust law.
In their national convention of 1860, Democrats harshly responded to certain Northern (Republican) states that were passing state laws to evade the Fugitive Slave Law by adopting a plank in the Democratic Party Platform which read:
Resolved, That the enactments of the State Legislatures to defeat the faithful execution of the Fugitive Slave Law, are hostile in character, subversive of the Constitution, and revolutionary in their effect.
Senator, your Democratic Party has much to be apologetic about on the slavery issue.
During the civil war, the Southern Democrats led the Confederacy out of the Union; Northern Democrats formed a separate party which opposed the war. The 1864 (Northern) Democratic Party platform adopted a "peace" plank which read in part:
... after four years of failure to restore the union by the experiment of war ... justice, humanity, liberty, and the public welfare demand ... a cessation of hostilities ... to the end that ... peace may be restored ...
Here is the origin of today's Democratic Party "Peace at any Price, Better Red than Dead, Why Can't we all just get Along" foreign policy.
The war was started by Democrat secessionists, and just as President Lincoln was on the verge of victory, the Northern Democrats wanted to save the South and slavery with "peace talks"! Voters knew better in 1864 and re-elected Lincoln.
But the Democrats weren't through. In 1868, Sen. Harkin's party condemned the Republican Party in its party platform as the "Radical Party," and condemned Reconstruction in these unforgettable words:
Instead of restoring the Union, it (the Radical Party) has dissolved it, and subjected ten states (the former Confederate states) ... to military despotism and negro supremacy.
And, senator, don't tell me this is all ancient history in a lame attempt to evade the true origins of your party.
As recently as 1964, when the Senate debated the Civil Rights Act, Southern Democrats (including Al Gore's father) voted no. While Northern Democrats voted yes, their votes were not enough. The deciding votes to pass this landmark bill were provided by Sen. Everett Dirksen, R-Ill., and the Republicans.
Republicans should be proud of their heritage of liberation of the slaves and civil rights voting record.
It's Harkin and the Democrats who should apologize and pay reparations.
Here is the origin of today's Democratic Party "Peace at any Price, Better Red than Dead, Why Can't we all just get Along" foreign policy.
The war was started by Democrat secessionists, and just as President Lincoln was on the verge of victory, the Northern Democrats wanted to save the South and slavery with "peace talks"! Voters knew better in 1864 and re-elected Lincoln.
But the Democrats weren't through. In 1868, Sen. Harkin's party condemned the Republican Party in its party platform as the "Radical Party," and condemned Reconstruction in these unforgettable words:
Instead of restoring the Union, it (the Radical Party) has dissolved it, and subjected ten states (the former Confederate states) ... to military despotism and negro supremacy.
And, senator, don't tell me this is all ancient history in a lame attempt to evade the true origins of your party.
As recently as 1964, when the Senate debated the Civil Rights Act, Southern Democrats (including Al Gore's father) voted no. While Northern Democrats voted yes, their votes were not enough. The deciding votes to pass this landmark bill were provided by Sen. Everett Dirksen, R-Ill., and the Republicans.
Republicans should be proud of their heritage of liberation of the slaves and civil rights voting record.
It's Harkin and the Democrats who should apologize and pay reparations.
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