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Well we also give/gave billions to them and a ton of it was unaccounted for and that is a fact. It is sickening that DEMS support the war machine just because Israeli power and money own them. If we are giving via debt to other countries when it could be better used at home OR not created via debt in the first place, we need to completely control the narrative and we do not. Israel take our money and so does Ukraine and they do as they wish without consideration for what we feel is important and having boundaries about actions/decisions they make. |
Zeus4par | 614 |
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@fubah2 So corporate handouts to defense contractors is something to cheer about? I dont think so.
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Zeus4par | 614 |
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@witswits So I need to say again your answer about why any thread is moved is in the guidelines, did I say that before? I am quite sure I did. The partisan part is your narrative because you are partisan so explaining a non-partisan concept to a partisan person like you is quite difficult. There is the same answer yet again, the count of Biden/Trump is not something deserving of discussion and is only meant as a way for you to cry about the injustices of a gambling website. Please refer to the guidelines and actually try to do more than provoke and annoy with what you post here. You seem like an intelligent person please stop trying to ask questions you know the answer to as a way to partisan divide and complain. Or just pull the Canada and wallstreet hates Trump and loves liberals retort, that one is the best so far. |
sundance | 1881 |
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@witswits You love to bait dont you then it lures others to support you. Is that a good way to have conversation and discussion? Is your thread going to be unique interesting something that you cannot find in another thread or is it just a way to combat what you feel is excessive liberal threads? I dont see what the purpose of yet another Trump great thread adds that is unique and that has new content, why not put your comments in other pro-Trump threads and save the partisan divide? The fact you feel that a thread which is just some cut/paste blip that is just filler is worthy of posting tells plenty about you. This forum is not meant to be a Biden for President fan page it is not meant to be a Trump will save the US fan page either as you would make it. The purpose for any thread or comment should be to invite discussion and be to add value, to elevate and not debase. You have to try and find ways to unify and not divide, but it seems you are just here to promote Trump and put down Biden. I do not see much else from you outside partisan cheerleading and Biden/Liberal putdowns. What good is that and what kind of outcome do you expect when you are intentionally offending others by posting content which divides. FWIW you already know this, you seem somewhat intelligent but the guidelines state specifically why threads get moved, you already know your answer yet you ask it to provoke and antagonize and I wont engage with such an approach. |
sundance | 1881 |
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@witswits So you and the other GOP boys are keen on pounding the conspiracy drum and demand answers to questions and yet you answer NONE of them asked to you. So it goes both ways here...you cannot just cherry pick narrative and ignore your part in why things happen. The answer to your sidebar question has been made MANY times. If you want discussion then that means you also need to answer questions (which you rarely do) and take responsibility. It also means you have to have clean hands, that means you cannot play the sympathy card when you are more guilty and responsible and take no ownership for it. Do not worry about thread dispersion or who is on top and Trump vs Biden, concern yourself with being the better poster, better contributor and that can be done by avoiding partisan lazy selfish replies and try to interact with those who see differently. It means respecting others and not attacking or passive aggressive stuff which you do almost exclusively. Or just keep cherry picking that conspiracy yawner, that is always the fallback instead of being above the mess and being the better person. |
sundance | 1881 |
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@witswits You already have your answers. Your examples are of no value because they are not actually in play. The issue isnt a pro-trump thread or comment, that has never been an issue so why do you frame it like that? Your other comment is nonsense, both sides say stupid toxic things on a very regular basis and maybe we will box maybe not the point is if you post content that IS breaking the rules or might be then you are subject to potentially being boxed or banned. Its right there in the rules/guidelines its right there. This thread has several examples of messages which were made towards other Covers members and that has no place in this forum. You and sundance and several others make comments aimed at other members and that is off topic it is against the rules for being combative antagonistic and it serves no purpose. For every crying comment about how Trump is picked on, you can find messages and threads which attack Biden/Libs/DNC etc...there are NO innocent sides here and I dont care which politician you like I only care about keeping the rules/guidelines and adding VALUE to the forum, why post childish retaliatory nonsense, are you needing attention that badly? Everyone needs to be better at treating all members with respect and focus on adding value, keeping the rules and making good conversation. |
witswits | 197 |
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BREAKING: More MAGA republicans in serious legal trouble for fraud, conspiracy
in Politics @KellyM_1964 That quote is misleading, you left out AZ...the other part can exist easy. The left has conspiracy the right has conspiracy there is no difference. AZ and LEFT and CONSPIRACY together is a long long long stretch. I think the issue for AZ is the way Trump and the GOP put in question the electoral process and that is what caused this to come to the front, not that it was at all about whatever candidate, but that they questioned the process and THAT is grounds for indictment. Trump's cronies went too far because they thought they could without recourse and one of the most blaring weaknesses that Trump has is a lack of understanding of boundaries regarding how you slander people and processes. You cant just mudsling without recourse and that is what they did and that is why many of them are in trouble. |
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BREAKING: More MAGA republicans in serious legal trouble for fraud, conspiracy
in Politics @UNIMAN You cant put the words AZ, LEFT and conspiracy in the same narrative it for sure does not exist. If Arizona one of the most conservative states and populations indicted those guys it is for sure warranted. I am not interested in the theatrics because outside of prison it wont mean anything and is probably a waste of taxpayer time and money.
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@sundance And here is a great example of a GOP member provoking other Covers members. There is zero need to throw in the jab to your cut and paste message sundance, it is not adding value and is meant to antagonize. This is why you have been boxed before, the passive aggressive stuff and the outright attacks. If you want to post something then do it without the reference to others here especially when you are saying it for negative derisive purposes. |
witswits | 197 |
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@ABooksNightmare Is this like the tenth time explaining your fairness agenda? What you said in post 163 means nothing, you have no claim to retaliate or attack because you feel that another member is deserving. THAT is why you have been boxed so many times that the next time it will likely not be a boxing. There are proper ways to report a member breaking the rules and that is outlined in the guidelines/rules section and you know 100% what to do but you refuse. You think taking things in your own hands which is against the rules is the way you deal with someone who you do not like. I've seen you attack political members I've seen you attack regular posters, you have done the same to me and that is not allowed especially in the main forums. You have no claim to take action against any other member on this site, so please stop doing that and if you continue you will not be a member much longer. It is quite childish we have to tell you over and over and over to keep the rules and stop stalking others as you do and it is for no reason, you do not listen you react and respond and retaliate. For the last time, if you feel a member is breaking the rules/guidelines report the member and let the site deal with what happens next. That is the only way you as a member can express concern and I suggest you finally understand that and stop with the stalking and provoking. |
witswits | 197 |
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@witswits There you go again, the ref is to blame excuse. So define "fair" per the rules and guidelines. Go ahead and tell me what is "fair" in your book and "not fair" as to the RULES of the site? What it seems to me is a few of you guys are losing the popularity game and are shaking your fists at the sky because you are not getting your way. You do not see this sort of childishness from the other side and believe me they voice their issues much more than your side does, but they do it per the RULES of the site. You on the other hand retaliate, provoke, attack, play pity party unfair mod in public because that is how you think you will win. You wont win because you are not following the rules. You are self-admittedly not able to post in here, so why are you making yourself upset that a group of posters isolates, does not want interaction with you and posts often? Those are not rule breakers but what you do is...so either decide to keep the guidelines and rules or just avoid the temptation.
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witswits | 197 |
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@witswits Where you and most of your amigos fail is in understanding what is breaking rules and what is not. You are an admitted retaliatory combative petty poster, you say it yourself. For you it is about one side having threads on top of the other and you have intentionally broken the rules because you disagree with this stupid concept. What you and the other GOP boys continue to fail at understanding is that you all break the rules by stalking, attacking, provoking directly to those you disagree with, this thread is filled with direct specific provoking comments, they are right here and easy to find. What you will not find is the other side doing what you are. How many of the other side have gone into non-political threads in other forums to stalk/provoke/attack? How many of your side have done that? I just gave an example of breaking the rules and guidelines and I asked it ABOVE and yet NONE of you responded. You guys claim that I am so unfair yet you take no responsibility for actually breaking the site rules. Their comments to each other are not breaking the rules. Is it annoying and repetitive at times? Yes for sure but then so is the crap in this thread and other GOP ones, both sides pull this kiddie I am in front of the line not you garbage...yet that is not what gets people in trouble. The single item you or your GOP friends are responsible for is KEEPING THE RULES. YOU focus on your content, your threads and replies, YOU adding value to everyone and YOU being the better person not if some other group likes Biden and dislikes Trump. They are not directly personally attacking you, and you cannot attack directly or there is action taken. So instead of blaming the ref just keep the rules and enjoy the opportunity. I 100% agree with you on the comment about you posting in this area, it is obvious you have a big problem interacting with people who do not agree with you AND might strongly disagree, you are unable to control yourself with opposition and it is probably wise for you to avoid posting here. There are others who admittedly cant do it and there is nothing wrong with avoiding conflict because you lack the ability, it is better that you try to steer clear of losing your cool and it is probably smart to not post here until you can keep the rules and co-exist. |
witswits | 197 |
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@spockgato You both have the same issue, you are partisan and biased towards one side and ignore the facts right in front of your faces. Look in this thread, this exact page and tell me what you see...then try and minimize it because you are partisan. I dont care what side you are on just be respectful and do not break the rules.guidelines and try to add value, try to make conversation and debate. Look for ways to get along with others and not to try and attack or stalk or provoke. Or you can beat that tired drum of unfair moderation, ignoring the truth and reality that there are two parties here and both are responsible for what happens and that is the only thing that matters. |
witswits | 197 |
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@UNIMAN Both sides....dont just use extreme examples, the extremes are not reality. Not all are as you are suggesting, not even a majority is as you are suggesting. I am saying that both extreme sides are behaving in toxic abusive ways. People should not fear protesting and worry about their lives for doing so. |
Cranky_Hank | 304 |
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@ABooksNightmare You speak with your actions and behavior not by saying you are not on one side. You provoke and attack one group at a high rate and the other on a very low rate. I make my observations based on your actions, posts, stalking etc not that you say you are or not. |
witswits | 197 |
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@ABooksNightmare Oh there is plenty of left slamming stuff all through this forum, the issue is you are part of that and so you are biased to it and minimize it. You are very aggressive in your sarcasm and digs and at the same time you are super sensitive for the exact same thing towards your side. Its here, both sides are doing it. Why not be above it and instead of whining about unfairness just be the better person and not do what you are complaining about yourself? |
witswits | 197 |
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@soup-can Probably the same reason why that federal judge appointee is getting shredded falsely. I would imagine those protestors fear offensive retort from conservatives and those who might not agree with their position regarding Israel. If you have to fear for your life in protesting then there is something seriously wrong with society. We are so divided and toxic towards differences it has turned into a fear for life. |
Cranky_Hank | 304 |
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@ABooksNightmare So you do not support the concept of women being able to have consistent rights with regards to abortion since it is their body and all? States cannot make proper decisions and we are seeing it right in front of our face. Morons down here pull out some 1800s relic on the books and now we dropped back 200 years in time. Even if you are against certain guidelines for abortion there needs to be a minimum standard that any citizen in any state can know exists not based on what screwball state legislature thinks. The reason why the federal government steps in is for this exact cause, extremists make awful legislative decisions based usually on religious intolerance and that is not what this country is about, extremists in all directions are not representative of society as a whole and even if you might disagree with abortion in your home it is the purpose that government is to exist and that is to protect the greater good and those who might not agree with religious beliefs. |
ClubDirt | 57 |
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@UNIMAN We meaning the forum not you and I specifically. |
sundance | 1881 |
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@ABooksNightmare Typical retort. I was only addressing the gas stove comment BUT sarcasm and jabs aside you are correct actually. Gas based fryers have the same issue as do gas broilers and gas griddles. All of your concerns are 100% legit but that is not why you listed those. Nothing like deflection sarcasm to make for good debate/conversation. |
sundance | 1881 |
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