First the Pens, then the Preds, and now the Coyotes.
Story: https://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=281971
Can't say I'm the least bit surprised. Still think it's ridiculous. He ruffles feathers...sure. But who the fuck cares?! He has a ton of money and is willing to throw it at the NHL to buy a team. In these recessionary times, I think Bettman and the NHL are absolutely insane for not allowing the man in.
And yes...I know there's more to the story, but bottom line is they want money, but apparently not his.
First the Pens, then the Preds, and now the Coyotes.
Story: https://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=281971
Can't say I'm the least bit surprised. Still think it's ridiculous. He ruffles feathers...sure. But who the fuck cares?! He has a ton of money and is willing to throw it at the NHL to buy a team. In these recessionary times, I think Bettman and the NHL are absolutely insane for not allowing the man in.
And yes...I know there's more to the story, but bottom line is they want money, but apparently not his.
not surprised either. Really hoped he would have gotten the team. Oh well- Atlanta, Florida, and Tampa about to go under as well if you listen to Bob McCowan's show on the Fan 590. Maybe he can buy one of those and move it to Hamilton.
not surprised either. Really hoped he would have gotten the team. Oh well- Atlanta, Florida, and Tampa about to go under as well if you listen to Bob McCowan's show on the Fan 590. Maybe he can buy one of those and move it to Hamilton.
why doesnt this asshole go about it in the right way and maybe he will get a team
Why cause he wants to relocate a team? At least he is giving his full intentions of what he wants to do with the team instead of buying it and not saying anything to the fans and moving it over night. Like Cleveland to Baltimore Overnight (NFL).
In 2007, Balsillie tried to buy the Nashville Predators (the owner at
the time, Craig Leipold, placed the club for sale). Balsillie placed an
offer of approx US$238mm (again, trying to relocate the club to
southern Ontario). When it became obvious the league would not allow a
relocation Balsillie walked away from the deal.
Bettman became commish in 93 and the Jets left in 96. So I guess he doesn't want to look like an assman and have the team come back to Canada. He really didn't help Winnipeg keep the team in that city like he is fighting tooth and nails for them to stay in Phoenix as far as I can see it.
why doesnt this asshole go about it in the right way and maybe he will get a team
Why cause he wants to relocate a team? At least he is giving his full intentions of what he wants to do with the team instead of buying it and not saying anything to the fans and moving it over night. Like Cleveland to Baltimore Overnight (NFL).
In 2007, Balsillie tried to buy the Nashville Predators (the owner at
the time, Craig Leipold, placed the club for sale). Balsillie placed an
offer of approx US$238mm (again, trying to relocate the club to
southern Ontario). When it became obvious the league would not allow a
relocation Balsillie walked away from the deal.
Bettman became commish in 93 and the Jets left in 96. So I guess he doesn't want to look like an assman and have the team come back to Canada. He really didn't help Winnipeg keep the team in that city like he is fighting tooth and nails for them to stay in Phoenix as far as I can see it.
why doesnt this asshole go about it in the right way and maybe he will get a team
NJD your point will not meet with a lot of agreement on here I'm sure, but I agree with you to the extent that this guy almost appears to the outside world to be doing everything in his power to FUCK Bettman - people need to think outside the box a little more on this IMO - too many parochial interests influencing people's judgement about what is essentially a business situation - there are rules and proceedures in place to become a part of this exclusive club and B-man thinks he's above all that since he's richer than everyong else - or so it appears to the casual AND OBJECTIVE viewer. I commend your opinion even if the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.
why doesnt this asshole go about it in the right way and maybe he will get a team
NJD your point will not meet with a lot of agreement on here I'm sure, but I agree with you to the extent that this guy almost appears to the outside world to be doing everything in his power to FUCK Bettman - people need to think outside the box a little more on this IMO - too many parochial interests influencing people's judgement about what is essentially a business situation - there are rules and proceedures in place to become a part of this exclusive club and B-man thinks he's above all that since he's richer than everyong else - or so it appears to the casual AND OBJECTIVE viewer. I commend your opinion even if the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.
Sorry but his act is getting as tired as Bettman's IMO - they are starting to resemble a couple of spoiled children fighting in the sandbox every day after school
Sorry but his act is getting as tired as Bettman's IMO - they are starting to resemble a couple of spoiled children fighting in the sandbox every day after school
why doesnt this asshole go about it in the right way and maybe he will get a team
Ding, Ding, ding we have a winner folks.
Balsillie is no better than Bettman. I still laugh when thinking about how he put season tickets on sale in Hamilton a couple years back thinking he would have the Predators in the bag and move them to Hamilton the following season. And he didn't even own the team yet!
I agree with the league and the judge on this one.
why doesnt this asshole go about it in the right way and maybe he will get a team
Ding, Ding, ding we have a winner folks.
Balsillie is no better than Bettman. I still laugh when thinking about how he put season tickets on sale in Hamilton a couple years back thinking he would have the Predators in the bag and move them to Hamilton the following season. And he didn't even own the team yet!
I agree with the league and the judge on this one.
why doesnt this asshole go about it in the right way and maybe he will get a team
you mean like EXPANSION? freeking league has about 4 too many teams NOW and in the WRONG markets.
Phoenix? (should have NEVER moved from Winnipeg) Nashville? (NOT a hockey location and it shows, see Pucksrus's comments) Atlanta? (I guess the league forgot what happened to the Flames), either of the Florida teams but esp the Panthers? (only time THEY sell out is when they play a "snow birds" team like the Rangers, Habs or Leafs).
IF the Islanders don't get their "entertainment complex" on Long Island you can book that they will be Balsillie's NEXT target because their ownership is bleeding cash.
why doesnt this asshole go about it in the right way and maybe he will get a team
you mean like EXPANSION? freeking league has about 4 too many teams NOW and in the WRONG markets.
Phoenix? (should have NEVER moved from Winnipeg) Nashville? (NOT a hockey location and it shows, see Pucksrus's comments) Atlanta? (I guess the league forgot what happened to the Flames), either of the Florida teams but esp the Panthers? (only time THEY sell out is when they play a "snow birds" team like the Rangers, Habs or Leafs).
IF the Islanders don't get their "entertainment complex" on Long Island you can book that they will be Balsillie's NEXT target because their ownership is bleeding cash.
Balsillie is no better than Bettman. I still laugh when thinking about how he put season tickets on sale in Hamilton a couple years back thinking he would have the Predators in the bag and move them to Hamilton the following season. And he didn't even own the team yet!
I agree with the league and the judge on this one.
Agreed...he goes about things the wrong way. It's an unwritten rule that you need to be IN the "club" before you ruffle feathers, and not the other way around.
However...by putting the season tickets up for sale, he easily proved that there'd be a HUGE fan base in the city. Fact...this is actually one of the main things a potential owner needs to do before he/she can purchase a team.
The bottom line is that the NHL needs money and wants money, but Bettman has such a big head that he won't admit when he's wrong. He continues to put teams in cities where hockey can't succeed. Putting a team in Southern Ontario would bring the NHL a ton of money, but it's Gary's giant ego that gets in the way. I defy anyone to tell me that this isn't true.
And for what it's worth, the judge didn't make his decision based on the fact that Jim is arguably a dick.
Balsillie is no better than Bettman. I still laugh when thinking about how he put season tickets on sale in Hamilton a couple years back thinking he would have the Predators in the bag and move them to Hamilton the following season. And he didn't even own the team yet!
I agree with the league and the judge on this one.
Agreed...he goes about things the wrong way. It's an unwritten rule that you need to be IN the "club" before you ruffle feathers, and not the other way around.
However...by putting the season tickets up for sale, he easily proved that there'd be a HUGE fan base in the city. Fact...this is actually one of the main things a potential owner needs to do before he/she can purchase a team.
The bottom line is that the NHL needs money and wants money, but Bettman has such a big head that he won't admit when he's wrong. He continues to put teams in cities where hockey can't succeed. Putting a team in Southern Ontario would bring the NHL a ton of money, but it's Gary's giant ego that gets in the way. I defy anyone to tell me that this isn't true.
And for what it's worth, the judge didn't make his decision based on the fact that Jim is arguably a dick.
Fuck BUTTHEAD, HE DOESN'T LIKE CANADA BOTTOM LINE.
Balsillie should change his address to an American one and have a middle name nuckles or boots then he will get a team.
Why the hell would they give a billionaire a hockey team that would have a rink full of fans, probably the nicest rink in the league once it was reno'd, hell no give it to another friging American city so it can go bankrupt and have Obama bail them out. Make no mistake that if that little f........ asshole Bettman had his way we wouldn't even have the two original 6 teams in the Leafs and Canadiens. I still can't believe the owners haven't had him fired. Maybe its time to set up two leagues one in the Canada and one in the U.S. The U.S. can have F... Head Bettman as their Commish, the Canadian teams will vote in the Canadian Commissioner. And in the spring the Canadian winner will meet the U.S. winner for the Stanley Cup. Only difference is Canadian teams draft Canadian hockey players. The U.S. drafts U.S. players. And they both can draft from around the world. Stop feeding these U.S. teams with our great Canadian hockey players. Can you tell i'm a little pissed.
Fuck BUTTHEAD, HE DOESN'T LIKE CANADA BOTTOM LINE.
Balsillie should change his address to an American one and have a middle name nuckles or boots then he will get a team.
Why the hell would they give a billionaire a hockey team that would have a rink full of fans, probably the nicest rink in the league once it was reno'd, hell no give it to another friging American city so it can go bankrupt and have Obama bail them out. Make no mistake that if that little f........ asshole Bettman had his way we wouldn't even have the two original 6 teams in the Leafs and Canadiens. I still can't believe the owners haven't had him fired. Maybe its time to set up two leagues one in the Canada and one in the U.S. The U.S. can have F... Head Bettman as their Commish, the Canadian teams will vote in the Canadian Commissioner. And in the spring the Canadian winner will meet the U.S. winner for the Stanley Cup. Only difference is Canadian teams draft Canadian hockey players. The U.S. drafts U.S. players. And they both can draft from around the world. Stop feeding these U.S. teams with our great Canadian hockey players. Can you tell i'm a little pissed.
i agree with both sides of the argument. First Buttman his stubborn and his refusal to give up on his plan on growing the game in non-tradational hockey markets may sink the whole sport. Secondly Ballisle needs to stop being a jerk and starting trying to do things the right way. My brother coaches a team from a high school full of kids from wealthy parents (exec, doc's etc.) and the biggest problem he has with those people is following the rules. It's not different here with Ballisle, when your that rich people think they are above the rules and that they don't apply to them and they really don't know how to react when being told NO.
i agree with both sides of the argument. First Buttman his stubborn and his refusal to give up on his plan on growing the game in non-tradational hockey markets may sink the whole sport. Secondly Ballisle needs to stop being a jerk and starting trying to do things the right way. My brother coaches a team from a high school full of kids from wealthy parents (exec, doc's etc.) and the biggest problem he has with those people is following the rules. It's not different here with Ballisle, when your that rich people think they are above the rules and that they don't apply to them and they really don't know how to react when being told NO.
For the record, Judge Baum denied Balsillie because of the time restrictions set by Jim himself. Baum didn't necessarily argree nor disagree with relocating the team. He just said that he couldn't rule in favor of relocation because, in his opinion, there wasn't enough time based on the deadlines set.
For the record, Judge Baum denied Balsillie because of the time restrictions set by Jim himself. Baum didn't necessarily argree nor disagree with relocating the team. He just said that he couldn't rule in favor of relocation because, in his opinion, there wasn't enough time based on the deadlines set.
Ever see the 80s movie "American Werewolf in London" Tundra??
I'm reminded of the little boy in that film... no matter what anyone says to him, good or bad, the little guy replies "No!!" ... quite comical after a while actually ... thanks for the memory
Ever see the 80s movie "American Werewolf in London" Tundra??
I'm reminded of the little boy in that film... no matter what anyone says to him, good or bad, the little guy replies "No!!" ... quite comical after a while actually ... thanks for the memory
I agree with with all the great cappers in the thread! My only problem with Bettman is this as the commish of a pro sports league your job is to put teams in the best places to make money for your owners, players and the teams. Now in saying this he has teams in Nashville, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Florida and of course Phoenix who are losing money by the boat loads. How is this helping the owners and players and the league. His sole job is to make sure teams and owners have a chance to make it. Why doesn't he put his own money out and help these teams instead of using NHL money then we see if he likes losing money in the markets he put these teams in. Buffalo fans don't want to here it but screw the Sabres if they lose fans to the Hamilton franchise. The only reason why Buffalo has fans is Canadians going to the games so thats Hamilton or Canada's fault! Bettman is using every excuse not to give Balsillie a team even if he is doing it the wrong way. He is loaded he knows how to make money and wants a goddam hockey team. How many American owners are lining up to buy an NHL team tell me! It is just plain mind boggling how Bettman is giving every excuse he can not to put a team in Canada. We have Winnipeg, Hamilton, Quebec, and even a another team in Toronto would sell out and make money. Yet Bettman will die before he lets that happen! Again his job is to give teams a chance to make it has he done his job i don't think he has. He doesn't get it and never will. Sorry guys its long but Bettman just pisses me off more than any other Commish in any sports.
I agree with with all the great cappers in the thread! My only problem with Bettman is this as the commish of a pro sports league your job is to put teams in the best places to make money for your owners, players and the teams. Now in saying this he has teams in Nashville, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Florida and of course Phoenix who are losing money by the boat loads. How is this helping the owners and players and the league. His sole job is to make sure teams and owners have a chance to make it. Why doesn't he put his own money out and help these teams instead of using NHL money then we see if he likes losing money in the markets he put these teams in. Buffalo fans don't want to here it but screw the Sabres if they lose fans to the Hamilton franchise. The only reason why Buffalo has fans is Canadians going to the games so thats Hamilton or Canada's fault! Bettman is using every excuse not to give Balsillie a team even if he is doing it the wrong way. He is loaded he knows how to make money and wants a goddam hockey team. How many American owners are lining up to buy an NHL team tell me! It is just plain mind boggling how Bettman is giving every excuse he can not to put a team in Canada. We have Winnipeg, Hamilton, Quebec, and even a another team in Toronto would sell out and make money. Yet Bettman will die before he lets that happen! Again his job is to give teams a chance to make it has he done his job i don't think he has. He doesn't get it and never will. Sorry guys its long but Bettman just pisses me off more than any other Commish in any sports.
I agree with with all the great cappers in the thread! My only problem with Bettman is this as the commish of a pro sports league your job is to put teams in the best places to make money for your owners, players and the teams. Now in saying this he has teams in Nashville, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Florida and of course Phoenix who are losing money by the boat loads. How is this helping the owners and players and the league. His sole job is to make sure teams and owners have a chance to make it. Why doesn't he put his own money out and help these teams instead of using NHL money then we see if he likes losing money in the markets he put these teams in. Buffalo fans don't want to here it but screw the Sabres if they lose fans to the Hamilton franchise. The only reason why Buffalo has fans is Canadians going to the games so thats Hamilton or Canada's fault! Bettman is using every excuse not to give Balsillie a team even if he is doing it the wrong way. He is loaded he knows how to make money and wants a goddam hockey team. How many American owners are lining up to buy an NHL team tell me! It is just plain mind boggling how Bettman is giving every excuse he can not to put a team in Canada. We have Winnipeg, Hamilton, Quebec, and even a another team in Toronto would sell out and make money. Yet Bettman will die before he lets that happen! Again his job is to give teams a chance to make it has he done his job i don't think he has. He doesn't get it and never will. Sorry guys its long but Bettman just pisses me off more than any other Commish in any sports.
What do you expect from an asshole and he is a true asshole and is so f........ pro U.S. like i said above if he had his way he would probably remove all Canadian teams and make it a U.S. league. Its our sport we need a Canadian Commissioner and more Canadian teams. Don Cherry for commish.
I agree with with all the great cappers in the thread! My only problem with Bettman is this as the commish of a pro sports league your job is to put teams in the best places to make money for your owners, players and the teams. Now in saying this he has teams in Nashville, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Florida and of course Phoenix who are losing money by the boat loads. How is this helping the owners and players and the league. His sole job is to make sure teams and owners have a chance to make it. Why doesn't he put his own money out and help these teams instead of using NHL money then we see if he likes losing money in the markets he put these teams in. Buffalo fans don't want to here it but screw the Sabres if they lose fans to the Hamilton franchise. The only reason why Buffalo has fans is Canadians going to the games so thats Hamilton or Canada's fault! Bettman is using every excuse not to give Balsillie a team even if he is doing it the wrong way. He is loaded he knows how to make money and wants a goddam hockey team. How many American owners are lining up to buy an NHL team tell me! It is just plain mind boggling how Bettman is giving every excuse he can not to put a team in Canada. We have Winnipeg, Hamilton, Quebec, and even a another team in Toronto would sell out and make money. Yet Bettman will die before he lets that happen! Again his job is to give teams a chance to make it has he done his job i don't think he has. He doesn't get it and never will. Sorry guys its long but Bettman just pisses me off more than any other Commish in any sports.
What do you expect from an asshole and he is a true asshole and is so f........ pro U.S. like i said above if he had his way he would probably remove all Canadian teams and make it a U.S. league. Its our sport we need a Canadian Commissioner and more Canadian teams. Don Cherry for commish.
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