The last 3 weeks the Giants have had gift lines and the public has gobbled it up so I really don't think that argument is legitimate here.
However, this week there are football reasons as to why the Giants are going to have a rough time next week. They finally play a good team, finally. Not the fiddly-toes Matt Ryan and "zero confidence in his defense" Mike Smith, not Mark Blowchez and a "individual stat padding team" and not the wimpy Cowboys and a gunshy "Garrett."
They go up against the Pack. While the Pack are 1st, I'm not hearing a lot of love for the Pack. I'm hearing all the love in the world for the Saints and for the Giants and how it's gonna be like 2007 all over again.
The Packers are taking this personally. The Giants have no secondary to contain Rodgers and he's good at getting the ball out early to avoid the pass rush and he's played the Giants once already so he'll be more prepared.
On D everyone is dumping on the Packers. They will be out to prove something and while they give up a lot of yards, they get timely turnovers. The Giants can't expose the Pack main weakness in run D IMO (they had trouble running in the first 2.5 quarters when the Falcons D hadn't given up). I think Eli will be in a scoring race with Rodgers and Woodson or Tramon will make some key turnovers similar to the Lions-Saints game to cover the spread. A 9-point spread to Rodgers is like a 6 point spread to other teams. Also the Pack were -6 in NY, and now they're -9 not -12. Sounds like value. These are some early thoughts without thinking too much about the game.
The last 3 weeks the Giants have had gift lines and the public has gobbled it up so I really don't think that argument is legitimate here.
However, this week there are football reasons as to why the Giants are going to have a rough time next week. They finally play a good team, finally. Not the fiddly-toes Matt Ryan and "zero confidence in his defense" Mike Smith, not Mark Blowchez and a "individual stat padding team" and not the wimpy Cowboys and a gunshy "Garrett."
They go up against the Pack. While the Pack are 1st, I'm not hearing a lot of love for the Pack. I'm hearing all the love in the world for the Saints and for the Giants and how it's gonna be like 2007 all over again.
The Packers are taking this personally. The Giants have no secondary to contain Rodgers and he's good at getting the ball out early to avoid the pass rush and he's played the Giants once already so he'll be more prepared.
On D everyone is dumping on the Packers. They will be out to prove something and while they give up a lot of yards, they get timely turnovers. The Giants can't expose the Pack main weakness in run D IMO (they had trouble running in the first 2.5 quarters when the Falcons D hadn't given up). I think Eli will be in a scoring race with Rodgers and Woodson or Tramon will make some key turnovers similar to the Lions-Saints game to cover the spread. A 9-point spread to Rodgers is like a 6 point spread to other teams. Also the Pack were -6 in NY, and now they're -9 not -12. Sounds like value. These are some early thoughts without thinking too much about the game.
This team lost 29-14 against Balty yet I watched that game and it was a dogfight with Balty leading 16-14 after 3 quarters. The Ravens won't have that same edge playing an easier Texans team this time around without Matt Schaub. This game though the Ravens will have to deal with Andre Johnson and I think Foster will do better.
The Texans are a proud bunch and I think they'll be hungry here with no one giving them a chance to win this game. The Ravens have problems focusing which can be seen in their many slip-ups this season. With them getting home field, a place they haven't played a home playoff game in ages I expect them to feel pressured and have a jittery start against a very underrated Texans team.
Yates isn't great but he is gutsy and has the confidence to come back strong after a bad throw here and there. This Texans team has waited too long to go out quietly into the night and it wouldn't shock me if they won SU.
Broncos - Pats Under 51:
2nd time playing better adjustments on D. On the road, Fox will play more conservative and the Bellichick will make Tebow create long drives unlike Pitt game. NE's defense is better at home. Also Tebow won't turn it over a ton like last game to give Brady short fields like he got in that 2nd quarter explosion last time. Just trying to think if the Broncos can get enough pressure on the QB.
Saints -3.5 (Won't be playing it as I'm a huge Niners fan):
I hate to say it being a huge Niners fan but as badly as I want my boyz to win the more I think about this game the more and more this game reminds me of the Packers at Bears last year.
Brees isn't going to go up and down the field at will. In fact he'll be slowed down and have to punt on many drives. However, Brees will probably put up around 24 points. I see the Niners doing okay. Smith will get some drives and settle for FGs. But, I think the Saints will be up around 7-10 the whole game and the Niners will have a shot for the backdoor.
Hope I'm wrong. San Fran is not a fraud, they are a very good team but this matchup is going to be very tough for them.
This team lost 29-14 against Balty yet I watched that game and it was a dogfight with Balty leading 16-14 after 3 quarters. The Ravens won't have that same edge playing an easier Texans team this time around without Matt Schaub. This game though the Ravens will have to deal with Andre Johnson and I think Foster will do better.
The Texans are a proud bunch and I think they'll be hungry here with no one giving them a chance to win this game. The Ravens have problems focusing which can be seen in their many slip-ups this season. With them getting home field, a place they haven't played a home playoff game in ages I expect them to feel pressured and have a jittery start against a very underrated Texans team.
Yates isn't great but he is gutsy and has the confidence to come back strong after a bad throw here and there. This Texans team has waited too long to go out quietly into the night and it wouldn't shock me if they won SU.
Broncos - Pats Under 51:
2nd time playing better adjustments on D. On the road, Fox will play more conservative and the Bellichick will make Tebow create long drives unlike Pitt game. NE's defense is better at home. Also Tebow won't turn it over a ton like last game to give Brady short fields like he got in that 2nd quarter explosion last time. Just trying to think if the Broncos can get enough pressure on the QB.
Saints -3.5 (Won't be playing it as I'm a huge Niners fan):
I hate to say it being a huge Niners fan but as badly as I want my boyz to win the more I think about this game the more and more this game reminds me of the Packers at Bears last year.
Brees isn't going to go up and down the field at will. In fact he'll be slowed down and have to punt on many drives. However, Brees will probably put up around 24 points. I see the Niners doing okay. Smith will get some drives and settle for FGs. But, I think the Saints will be up around 7-10 the whole game and the Niners will have a shot for the backdoor.
Hope I'm wrong. San Fran is not a fraud, they are a very good team but this matchup is going to be very tough for them.
Texans opened at +9 at Balty with SCHAUB in the first meeting and lost the spread although they didn't have Andre Johnson. Now even though they lost the spread they opened up at the same spread with YATES and Andre Johnson. Almost every teaser will have the Ravens.
Packers should have been -12 this game after laying 6 in NY. They didn't cover in NY but didn't have Hawk, Bishop, Bulaga, and Clifton in that game but they'll have em in this game. Line value.
Opening the Saints at -3.5 is trying to bait in Niners money getting the hook.
Texans opened at +9 at Balty with SCHAUB in the first meeting and lost the spread although they didn't have Andre Johnson. Now even though they lost the spread they opened up at the same spread with YATES and Andre Johnson. Almost every teaser will have the Ravens.
Packers should have been -12 this game after laying 6 in NY. They didn't cover in NY but didn't have Hawk, Bishop, Bulaga, and Clifton in that game but they'll have em in this game. Line value.
Opening the Saints at -3.5 is trying to bait in Niners money getting the hook.
This team lost 29-14 against Balty yet I watched that game and it was a dogfight with Balty leading 16-14 after 3 quarters. The Ravens won't have that same edge playing an easier Texans team this time around without Matt Schaub. This game though the Ravens will have to deal with Andre Johnson and I think Foster will do better.
The Texans are a proud bunch and I think they'll be hungry here with no one giving them a chance to win this game. The Ravens have problems focusing which can be seen in their many slip-ups this season. With them getting home field, a place they haven't played a home playoff game in ages I expect them to feel pressured and have a jittery start against a very underrated Texans team.
Yates isn't great but he is gutsy and has the confidence to come back strong after a bad throw here and there. This Texans team has waited too long to go out quietly into the night and it wouldn't shock me if they won SU.
Like these guys lunch bucket boys.....Ravens will be waiting...
Broncos - Pats Under 51:
2nd time playing better adjustments on D. On the road, Fox will play more conservative and the Bellichick will make Tebow create long drives unlike Pitt game. NE's defense is better at home. Also Tebow won't turn it over a ton like last game to give Brady short fields like he got in that 2nd quarter explosion last time. Just trying to think if the Broncos can get enough pressure on the QB.
Saints -3.5 (Won't be playing it as I'm a huge Niners fan):
I hate to say it being a huge Niners fan but as badly as I want my boyz to win the more I think about this game the more and more this game reminds me of the Packers at Bears last year.
Brees isn't going to go up and down the field at will. In fact he'll be slowed down and have to punt on many drives. However, Brees will probably put up around 24 points. I see the Niners doing okay. Smith will get some drives and settle for FGs. But, I think the Saints will be up around 7-10 the whole game and the Niners will have a shot for the backdoor.
Hope I'm wrong. San Fran is not a fraud, they are a very good team but this matchup is going to be very tough for them.
This team lost 29-14 against Balty yet I watched that game and it was a dogfight with Balty leading 16-14 after 3 quarters. The Ravens won't have that same edge playing an easier Texans team this time around without Matt Schaub. This game though the Ravens will have to deal with Andre Johnson and I think Foster will do better.
The Texans are a proud bunch and I think they'll be hungry here with no one giving them a chance to win this game. The Ravens have problems focusing which can be seen in their many slip-ups this season. With them getting home field, a place they haven't played a home playoff game in ages I expect them to feel pressured and have a jittery start against a very underrated Texans team.
Yates isn't great but he is gutsy and has the confidence to come back strong after a bad throw here and there. This Texans team has waited too long to go out quietly into the night and it wouldn't shock me if they won SU.
Like these guys lunch bucket boys.....Ravens will be waiting...
Broncos - Pats Under 51:
2nd time playing better adjustments on D. On the road, Fox will play more conservative and the Bellichick will make Tebow create long drives unlike Pitt game. NE's defense is better at home. Also Tebow won't turn it over a ton like last game to give Brady short fields like he got in that 2nd quarter explosion last time. Just trying to think if the Broncos can get enough pressure on the QB.
Saints -3.5 (Won't be playing it as I'm a huge Niners fan):
I hate to say it being a huge Niners fan but as badly as I want my boyz to win the more I think about this game the more and more this game reminds me of the Packers at Bears last year.
Brees isn't going to go up and down the field at will. In fact he'll be slowed down and have to punt on many drives. However, Brees will probably put up around 24 points. I see the Niners doing okay. Smith will get some drives and settle for FGs. But, I think the Saints will be up around 7-10 the whole game and the Niners will have a shot for the backdoor.
Hope I'm wrong. San Fran is not a fraud, they are a very good team but this matchup is going to be very tough for them.
If you are betting your savings on Packers -8.5 that is no cakewalk.
I've never put my Savings on a bet and it certainly won't be a cake walk laying 8.5 to anyone unless you're playing the Buccaneers.
These are not my official plays but I have a strong lean to the Pack. I could change my mind throughout the week as well, as I leaned Bengals to start last week but shook my head and realized mid-week that the Texans were the play.
If you are betting your savings on Packers -8.5 that is no cakewalk.
I've never put my Savings on a bet and it certainly won't be a cake walk laying 8.5 to anyone unless you're playing the Buccaneers.
These are not my official plays but I have a strong lean to the Pack. I could change my mind throughout the week as well, as I leaned Bengals to start last week but shook my head and realized mid-week that the Texans were the play.
If you are betting your savings on Packers -8.5 that is no cakewalk.
I also had the Giants +6 when the Packers came to NY so this isn't a "hate" bet to chase my ATL loss and I have also backed the Giants this season. I just think the Packers are gonna show everyone why they're the defending champs and I like the way they match up with NY.
If you are betting your savings on Packers -8.5 that is no cakewalk.
I also had the Giants +6 when the Packers came to NY so this isn't a "hate" bet to chase my ATL loss and I have also backed the Giants this season. I just think the Packers are gonna show everyone why they're the defending champs and I like the way they match up with NY.
I actually like SF +3.5 this weekend. In fact, I think they have a VERY good chance of winning. There aren't many teams that are better coached, or seem to be as well-prepared for each game as they have been this year. I think that D comes up big against Brees on the road.
I actually like SF +3.5 this weekend. In fact, I think they have a VERY good chance of winning. There aren't many teams that are better coached, or seem to be as well-prepared for each game as they have been this year. I think that D comes up big against Brees on the road.
Really like the Packers here. Think they come out with a chip on their shoulder with everyone on the Saints bandwagon, would not be surprised to see Rodgers play the whole game even if they are up 21 in the 4th. 9 is a lot of points though, I might wait to see if the line drops more and if I can buy down to -7 for -125 or so.
Unfortunately against you on the Texans as I grabbed Ravens -7 -114, but I would be a little hesitant at -7.5 or -9. Just think the difference between Schaub-Johnson and Yates+Johnson is still really huge, I would take the former all day long. If Cinci can get 2 sacks and 3 QB hits on 22 passes, I shudder to think what the Baltimore pass rush can do. Might take the o4.5 (or whatever) sacks prop especially as I expect Houston to be playing catchup.
Against Cinci, without Johnson, Yates would have been 6/11 for 69yards. The Ravens know if they can limit Johnson, the only other person who can do damage is Foster. I would expect a simple general gameplan of 6 or 7 in the box and a double team on Johnson and they will be happy to let Yates beat them with short passes.
I also feel the Ravens crowd will help the Ravens rather than pressure them, but you could be right. I expect at least a few wasted timeouts due to crowd noise though. Yates has started 1 road game in his life, and they lost to the Colts :(
Really like the Packers here. Think they come out with a chip on their shoulder with everyone on the Saints bandwagon, would not be surprised to see Rodgers play the whole game even if they are up 21 in the 4th. 9 is a lot of points though, I might wait to see if the line drops more and if I can buy down to -7 for -125 or so.
Unfortunately against you on the Texans as I grabbed Ravens -7 -114, but I would be a little hesitant at -7.5 or -9. Just think the difference between Schaub-Johnson and Yates+Johnson is still really huge, I would take the former all day long. If Cinci can get 2 sacks and 3 QB hits on 22 passes, I shudder to think what the Baltimore pass rush can do. Might take the o4.5 (or whatever) sacks prop especially as I expect Houston to be playing catchup.
Against Cinci, without Johnson, Yates would have been 6/11 for 69yards. The Ravens know if they can limit Johnson, the only other person who can do damage is Foster. I would expect a simple general gameplan of 6 or 7 in the box and a double team on Johnson and they will be happy to let Yates beat them with short passes.
I also feel the Ravens crowd will help the Ravens rather than pressure them, but you could be right. I expect at least a few wasted timeouts due to crowd noise though. Yates has started 1 road game in his life, and they lost to the Colts :(
Really like the Packers here. Think they come out with a chip on their shoulder with everyone on the Saints bandwagon, would not be surprised to see Rodgers play the whole game even if they are up 21 in the 4th. 9 is a lot of points though, I might wait to see if the line drops more and if I can buy down to -7 for -125 or so.
Unfortunately against you on the Texans as I grabbed Ravens -7 -114, but I would be a little hesitant at -7.5 or -9. Just think the difference between Schaub-Johnson and Yates+Johnson is still really huge, I would take the former all day long. If Cinci can get 2 sacks and 3 QB hits on 22 passes, I shudder to think what the Baltimore pass rush can do. Might take the o4.5 (or whatever) sacks prop especially as I expect Houston to be playing catchup.
Against Cinci, without Johnson, Yates would have been 6/11 for 69yards. The Ravens know if they can limit Johnson, the only other person who can do damage is Foster. I would expect a simple general gameplan of 6 or 7 in the box and a double team on Johnson and they will be happy to let Yates beat them with short passes.
I also feel the Ravens crowd will help the Ravens rather than pressure them, but you could be right. I expect at least a few wasted timeouts due to crowd noise though. Yates has started 1 road game in his life, and they lost to the Colts :(
GL
I'm very happy to hear your opinion, as I respect your opinion on Texans games the most. I'll definitely think again about my Texans lean but I think GB is a go for me. Cheers buddy!
Really like the Packers here. Think they come out with a chip on their shoulder with everyone on the Saints bandwagon, would not be surprised to see Rodgers play the whole game even if they are up 21 in the 4th. 9 is a lot of points though, I might wait to see if the line drops more and if I can buy down to -7 for -125 or so.
Unfortunately against you on the Texans as I grabbed Ravens -7 -114, but I would be a little hesitant at -7.5 or -9. Just think the difference between Schaub-Johnson and Yates+Johnson is still really huge, I would take the former all day long. If Cinci can get 2 sacks and 3 QB hits on 22 passes, I shudder to think what the Baltimore pass rush can do. Might take the o4.5 (or whatever) sacks prop especially as I expect Houston to be playing catchup.
Against Cinci, without Johnson, Yates would have been 6/11 for 69yards. The Ravens know if they can limit Johnson, the only other person who can do damage is Foster. I would expect a simple general gameplan of 6 or 7 in the box and a double team on Johnson and they will be happy to let Yates beat them with short passes.
I also feel the Ravens crowd will help the Ravens rather than pressure them, but you could be right. I expect at least a few wasted timeouts due to crowd noise though. Yates has started 1 road game in his life, and they lost to the Colts :(
GL
I'm very happy to hear your opinion, as I respect your opinion on Texans games the most. I'll definitely think again about my Texans lean but I think GB is a go for me. Cheers buddy!
cant compare yates with schaub. i had houston ml last week and yates did not look good in the comfortable confines of his home. he was fortunate that foster had a career day and also the pick-six. if foster is limited to 70 yards and there is no pick-six this was a different ballgame.
im not saying to lay the points but to bet on a rookie qb who has a 1.5/1 college career td/int ratio and a 75 qb rating outdoors along with foster who has a 3.9 ypc outdoors could be something you may want to reconsider.
cant compare yates with schaub. i had houston ml last week and yates did not look good in the comfortable confines of his home. he was fortunate that foster had a career day and also the pick-six. if foster is limited to 70 yards and there is no pick-six this was a different ballgame.
im not saying to lay the points but to bet on a rookie qb who has a 1.5/1 college career td/int ratio and a 75 qb rating outdoors along with foster who has a 3.9 ypc outdoors could be something you may want to reconsider.
Like these guys lunch bucket boys.....Ravens will be waiting...
I'm sure the Ravens will be waiting but I think that the Texans can match their best punch. There's something special about this team and I'm probably the only guy in this forum that's gonna give em a chance but I think they have a shot at it.
It's not something I'd go heavy on but I think I'm gonna be on em regardless.
Like these guys lunch bucket boys.....Ravens will be waiting...
I'm sure the Ravens will be waiting but I think that the Texans can match their best punch. There's something special about this team and I'm probably the only guy in this forum that's gonna give em a chance but I think they have a shot at it.
It's not something I'd go heavy on but I think I'm gonna be on em regardless.
Should be a close one in Balty but I can't put money on TJ Yates in a hostile environment. The key will be to get Foster going to take some pressure off him.
Will be a low-scoring game, I pounded the under when it opened and don't think it gets about 34.
Should be a close one in Balty but I can't put money on TJ Yates in a hostile environment. The key will be to get Foster going to take some pressure off him.
Will be a low-scoring game, I pounded the under when it opened and don't think it gets about 34.
We differ again on the NYG this week. You must really hate them.
I think the matchup for NYG is amazing. Good pass rush can affect Rodgers. Yeah, NYG has a shitty secondary (no argument there), but the front 4 of NYG has been playing well enough to not give him ample time.
GB's defense is nothing to be impressed about. I expect a pass happy, high-scoring game.
We differ again on the NYG this week. You must really hate them.
I think the matchup for NYG is amazing. Good pass rush can affect Rodgers. Yeah, NYG has a shitty secondary (no argument there), but the front 4 of NYG has been playing well enough to not give him ample time.
GB's defense is nothing to be impressed about. I expect a pass happy, high-scoring game.
But gotta disagree on Houston. Yates against a well-rested Baltimore team, who is great at home; versus a Houston team that is much worse on the road, starting a rookie QB against a great, imposing defense.
But gotta disagree on Houston. Yates against a well-rested Baltimore team, who is great at home; versus a Houston team that is much worse on the road, starting a rookie QB against a great, imposing defense.
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