My favorite part of all this "rigged" talk is that idiot letsgopack and he tells everyone stern wont let miami lose yet he wont bet the miami series line. . . . . . Just shows you the level of intelligence of these people
My favorite part of all this "rigged" talk is that idiot letsgopack and he tells everyone stern wont let miami lose yet he wont bet the miami series line. . . . . . Just shows you the level of intelligence of these people
yea like michael jordan did not get the calls during his 6 rings
or magic johnson during his 5 rings
or kobe during his 5
you guys must not know that THE STARS GET THE CALLS, especially AT HOME
stop complaining, you sound like ignorant whiners when you do this, just give credit where it's due, the BETTER TEAM IS WINNING
And again I am going to play the contrarian here. One one hand your post seems to imply that the stars get the benefit of the calls. Yet on the other hand you state that the better team is winning.
So once again for the sake of discussion you seem to be implying that the Heat are getting the benefit of the calls from the refs. However, given how close these games have been and how much a few "biased calls" throughout the course of the game (if that is the argument we are discussing) can sway the outcome by a handful of points (this varies depending on how many calls you think they are benefiting from but either way there is no doubt that a handful of biased calls can result in a 6 - 10 point change) than you are essentially saying that the Heat are winning in part due to those calls. And therefore they are not the better team.
yea like michael jordan did not get the calls during his 6 rings
or magic johnson during his 5 rings
or kobe during his 5
you guys must not know that THE STARS GET THE CALLS, especially AT HOME
stop complaining, you sound like ignorant whiners when you do this, just give credit where it's due, the BETTER TEAM IS WINNING
And again I am going to play the contrarian here. One one hand your post seems to imply that the stars get the benefit of the calls. Yet on the other hand you state that the better team is winning.
So once again for the sake of discussion you seem to be implying that the Heat are getting the benefit of the calls from the refs. However, given how close these games have been and how much a few "biased calls" throughout the course of the game (if that is the argument we are discussing) can sway the outcome by a handful of points (this varies depending on how many calls you think they are benefiting from but either way there is no doubt that a handful of biased calls can result in a 6 - 10 point change) than you are essentially saying that the Heat are winning in part due to those calls. And therefore they are not the better team.
My favorite part of all this "rigged" talk is that idiot letsgopack and he tells everyone stern wont let miami lose yet he wont bet the miami series line. . . . . . Just shows you the level of intelligence of these people
My favorite part of all this "rigged" talk is that idiot letsgopack and he tells everyone stern wont let miami lose yet he wont bet the miami series line. . . . . . Just shows you the level of intelligence of these people
Creating a thread to tell the whiners to stop whining? I agree with you bro but threads like these are just as aggravating as the original whining threads.
Creating a thread to tell the whiners to stop whining? I agree with you bro but threads like these are just as aggravating as the original whining threads.
Javie, former NBA ref and now works for ESPN said refs do make mistakes, they are not going to be perfect but he thinks the games have been called pretty good.
He said most people looking in from the outside don't understand how the game gets called.
Dereck Rose said, Miami is not winning because of the refs, they are winning because THEY DELIVER IN THE CLUTCH AND OKC HAS and from what I've seen I would have to agree.
Evidence to this is, the team with the most FT atts is 2-2 SU , when OKC won game 1 while att something like 9 fewer FT nobody was calling fix then, geez I wonder why, maybe because they delivered in the clutch and won the game.
Game 2 Miami att 1 less FT, if the league wanted Miami to win game 2 and not dig themselves a big hole in this series they without any questioned would not have Miami att 1 less FT.
Miami made 22 of 25 FT while OKC made something like 15 of 26 or whatever it was , like the league somehow made OKC miss FT.
Here's the bottom line, when OKC att fewer FT and wins no calls of fix, when OKC att fewer FT and loses calls of the fix begin.
The common denominator , when people win no calls of fix, when they lose calls of fix begin..........................................
Javie, former NBA ref and now works for ESPN said refs do make mistakes, they are not going to be perfect but he thinks the games have been called pretty good.
He said most people looking in from the outside don't understand how the game gets called.
Dereck Rose said, Miami is not winning because of the refs, they are winning because THEY DELIVER IN THE CLUTCH AND OKC HAS and from what I've seen I would have to agree.
Evidence to this is, the team with the most FT atts is 2-2 SU , when OKC won game 1 while att something like 9 fewer FT nobody was calling fix then, geez I wonder why, maybe because they delivered in the clutch and won the game.
Game 2 Miami att 1 less FT, if the league wanted Miami to win game 2 and not dig themselves a big hole in this series they without any questioned would not have Miami att 1 less FT.
Miami made 22 of 25 FT while OKC made something like 15 of 26 or whatever it was , like the league somehow made OKC miss FT.
Here's the bottom line, when OKC att fewer FT and wins no calls of fix, when OKC att fewer FT and loses calls of the fix begin.
The common denominator , when people win no calls of fix, when they lose calls of fix begin..........................................
Javie, former NBA ref and now works for ESPN said refs do make mistakes, they are not going to be perfect but he thinks the games have been called pretty good.
He said most people looking in from the outside don't understand how the game gets called.
Dereck Rose said, Miami is not winning because of the refs, they are winning because THEY DELIVER IN THE CLUTCH AND OKC HAS and from what I've seen I would have to agree.
Evidence to this is, the team with the most FT atts is 2-2 SU , when OKC won game 1 while att something like 9 fewer FT nobody was calling fix then, geez I wonder why, maybe because they delivered in the clutch and won the game.
Game 2 Miami att 1 less FT, if the league wanted Miami to win game 2 and not dig themselves a big hole in this series they without any questioned would not have Miami att 1 less FT.
Miami made 22 of 25 FT while OKC made something like 15 of 26 or whatever it was , like the league somehow made OKC miss FT.
Here's the bottom line, when OKC att fewer FT and wins no calls of fix, when OKC att fewer FT and loses calls of the fix begin.
The common denominator , when people win no calls of fix, when they lose calls of fix begin..........................................
Javie, former NBA ref and now works for ESPN said refs do make mistakes, they are not going to be perfect but he thinks the games have been called pretty good.
He said most people looking in from the outside don't understand how the game gets called.
Dereck Rose said, Miami is not winning because of the refs, they are winning because THEY DELIVER IN THE CLUTCH AND OKC HAS and from what I've seen I would have to agree.
Evidence to this is, the team with the most FT atts is 2-2 SU , when OKC won game 1 while att something like 9 fewer FT nobody was calling fix then, geez I wonder why, maybe because they delivered in the clutch and won the game.
Game 2 Miami att 1 less FT, if the league wanted Miami to win game 2 and not dig themselves a big hole in this series they without any questioned would not have Miami att 1 less FT.
Miami made 22 of 25 FT while OKC made something like 15 of 26 or whatever it was , like the league somehow made OKC miss FT.
Here's the bottom line, when OKC att fewer FT and wins no calls of fix, when OKC att fewer FT and loses calls of the fix begin.
The common denominator , when people win no calls of fix, when they lose calls of fix begin..........................................
The players you listed above are cut throat winners. They would do whatever it took to win the game. Lebron sits on the sideline and screams his head off because of cramps? DRAMA QUEEN
The players you listed above are cut throat winners. They would do whatever it took to win the game. Lebron sits on the sideline and screams his head off because of cramps? DRAMA QUEEN
I can honestly say game 4, that there was plenty of missed calls when the heat were fouled. this is a drive to the hoop team or kick it for the 3. so i dont get what the crying is about. game 4 was called very evenly, they let them play a lot of the games. yes the heat cry and moan about not getting the calls, but who cares. theyre the ones not getting back on D. and harden, has just been horrible these finals, and the biggest flopper of them all in these finals. why is it people always scream fix? yes, i too think okc has the better overall TEAM. but, not in this series, not even close. ibaka, harden, and sefelosha have done nothing what so ever. so the fact that miami is up 3-1, should not be questioned. if you think without those 3, that theyre still better then the heat, then you got real bad hater problems.
I can honestly say game 4, that there was plenty of missed calls when the heat were fouled. this is a drive to the hoop team or kick it for the 3. so i dont get what the crying is about. game 4 was called very evenly, they let them play a lot of the games. yes the heat cry and moan about not getting the calls, but who cares. theyre the ones not getting back on D. and harden, has just been horrible these finals, and the biggest flopper of them all in these finals. why is it people always scream fix? yes, i too think okc has the better overall TEAM. but, not in this series, not even close. ibaka, harden, and sefelosha have done nothing what so ever. so the fact that miami is up 3-1, should not be questioned. if you think without those 3, that theyre still better then the heat, then you got real bad hater problems.
Here's the bottom line, when OKC att fewer FT and wins no calls of fix, when OKC att fewer FT and loses calls of the fix begin.
Claw... i usually agree with your perspective, but i'm gonna have to call you out here, because your argument is flawed...
first of all, you cannot base whether or not a game is fixed on the number of FTs attempted... that is just simple-minded to begin with, and even Tim Donaghy detailed how refs will cover up any evidence of a fix by giving meaningless FTs to a team after they have already created enough of a margin to give the "favored" team the win... but more importantly, you gauge how the refs are "favoring" a team by what calls are made and not made...
if Team A is hacking the shit out of Team B, and Team B is playing clean defense, but both teams end up with the same # of FTs... does that mean there is no fix involved? i mean come on... you're too sharp to make such a silly blunder...
secondly... if OKC won game 1 while attempting fewer FTs... based on YOUR logic, that only proves that they OVERCAME poor officiating in the first game, and were that much better... of course nobody will cry for the fix in that situation, because the team that deserved it won anyway... i'm not saying i agree with that argument, just saying that is what follows from YOUR argument...
as for the original topic... Ignorance is refusing to see what should be obvious, in defiance of all evidence to support it... so don't be confused by who is the ignorant one here, OP...
Here's the bottom line, when OKC att fewer FT and wins no calls of fix, when OKC att fewer FT and loses calls of the fix begin.
Claw... i usually agree with your perspective, but i'm gonna have to call you out here, because your argument is flawed...
first of all, you cannot base whether or not a game is fixed on the number of FTs attempted... that is just simple-minded to begin with, and even Tim Donaghy detailed how refs will cover up any evidence of a fix by giving meaningless FTs to a team after they have already created enough of a margin to give the "favored" team the win... but more importantly, you gauge how the refs are "favoring" a team by what calls are made and not made...
if Team A is hacking the shit out of Team B, and Team B is playing clean defense, but both teams end up with the same # of FTs... does that mean there is no fix involved? i mean come on... you're too sharp to make such a silly blunder...
secondly... if OKC won game 1 while attempting fewer FTs... based on YOUR logic, that only proves that they OVERCAME poor officiating in the first game, and were that much better... of course nobody will cry for the fix in that situation, because the team that deserved it won anyway... i'm not saying i agree with that argument, just saying that is what follows from YOUR argument...
as for the original topic... Ignorance is refusing to see what should be obvious, in defiance of all evidence to support it... so don't be confused by who is the ignorant one here, OP...
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