This isn't a sore loser post. But I've come to the conclusion that I do think some of these games are thrown. I don't think it happens at all in the pros because there is no incentive, but in college I think it happens every season. Look at some of these games man.
Wash St puts up 12 on Minnesota? Purdue scored 31 on them. Rutgers put up 32. How about Baylor? Gives up 60 at home to TCU who blows . . . and now Boise rolls in and has been efficient on offense all year and has 3 points at halftime. Or WF putting up 30 before halftime on Temple? They average 20 a game all year against terrible defenses and they do that at half.
Much of this is randomness, but I think some of these games might be thrown. There are almost no patterns to follow in these games. And I'm not saying the entire team huddles up and tries to lose. But say a few players on defense decide to take it easy on a few plays . . . that's enough to do it. And honestly, I don't think it's easy to catch the guys who do it. It's a game of inches. Have a corner mistime his jump or fall down or miss a tackle. You can have crazy crap like that at every position. Most of these kids don't go to the NFL so there is incentive there.
You got so many game that fall 20-30 points off the spread it just wouldn't surprise me. Maybe the reason Bama doesn't lose is because they don't have guys on their team who ever throw games because a bunch are going to the NFL. I'm not big into conspiracy theories and I never used to think this way, but common sense tells me it happens and it's a really a matter of how much and where it happens. The real big name programs probably not so much. But middle tier D 1 teams? Possibly. Really just takes a couple line men to do it. Cheating has happened in baseball, college basketball, and even tennis very recently. Basically, golf is the only sport where it makes no sense.
This isn't a sore loser post. But I've come to the conclusion that I do think some of these games are thrown. I don't think it happens at all in the pros because there is no incentive, but in college I think it happens every season. Look at some of these games man.
Wash St puts up 12 on Minnesota? Purdue scored 31 on them. Rutgers put up 32. How about Baylor? Gives up 60 at home to TCU who blows . . . and now Boise rolls in and has been efficient on offense all year and has 3 points at halftime. Or WF putting up 30 before halftime on Temple? They average 20 a game all year against terrible defenses and they do that at half.
Much of this is randomness, but I think some of these games might be thrown. There are almost no patterns to follow in these games. And I'm not saying the entire team huddles up and tries to lose. But say a few players on defense decide to take it easy on a few plays . . . that's enough to do it. And honestly, I don't think it's easy to catch the guys who do it. It's a game of inches. Have a corner mistime his jump or fall down or miss a tackle. You can have crazy crap like that at every position. Most of these kids don't go to the NFL so there is incentive there.
You got so many game that fall 20-30 points off the spread it just wouldn't surprise me. Maybe the reason Bama doesn't lose is because they don't have guys on their team who ever throw games because a bunch are going to the NFL. I'm not big into conspiracy theories and I never used to think this way, but common sense tells me it happens and it's a really a matter of how much and where it happens. The real big name programs probably not so much. But middle tier D 1 teams? Possibly. Really just takes a couple line men to do it. Cheating has happened in baseball, college basketball, and even tennis very recently. Basically, golf is the only sport where it makes no sense.
You may be right...maybe not. We will not know for sure until someone comes out and admits to it (again). I just don't see how some people say a game is fixed when it was won/lost on some crazy/fluke play.
You may be right...maybe not. We will not know for sure until someone comes out and admits to it (again). I just don't see how some people say a game is fixed when it was won/lost on some crazy/fluke play.
The last 3 or 4 games going back to yesterday, when the team who is behind is down one score in the 4th, the leading team pulls off a pick 6, punt/kick off return TD or long run back ... these games don't make any sense to the average capper. It gives you hope, then it gets sucked out quick in hopeless regret and verbalizing plenty of WTFs....
Ive come to the realization if you want to make wagers on these early games, you make your picks based on what you normally look at, but you bet the opposite and you'll win. So stupid, yet so simple.
The last 3 or 4 games going back to yesterday, when the team who is behind is down one score in the 4th, the leading team pulls off a pick 6, punt/kick off return TD or long run back ... these games don't make any sense to the average capper. It gives you hope, then it gets sucked out quick in hopeless regret and verbalizing plenty of WTFs....
Ive come to the realization if you want to make wagers on these early games, you make your picks based on what you normally look at, but you bet the opposite and you'll win. So stupid, yet so simple.
no fixes ,,bowl games are very unpredictable,,,time off etc...underdogs alot times step up also...remember gambling is a losing cause especially if your betting multiple games a day
no fixes ,,bowl games are very unpredictable,,,time off etc...underdogs alot times step up also...remember gambling is a losing cause especially if your betting multiple games a day
I've about come to the conclusion that the best angle is just to bet on all underdogs.The refs can control the game to easy.The NCAAF,NFL,TV,corporations, etc.... want close games to keep the viewers interest IE: more money!
I've about come to the conclusion that the best angle is just to bet on all underdogs.The refs can control the game to easy.The NCAAF,NFL,TV,corporations, etc.... want close games to keep the viewers interest IE: more money!
You can have guys who dog it purposely for one half and actually try hard the second half. That would make perfect sense. You would obviously never know because no one is going to come out and say hey I tried to throw this game. But the bottom line is there are so many ways to impact a game. Blocking, penalties, missed tackles, missed defensive assignments in the secondary, missed throws, fumbles (although fumbles look so bad I don't think most players would try to fumble). Any holding penalty is huge. Or even unnecessary roughness.
Speaking of missed throws, I'm watching Wash St earlier. I think it's 6-3. 3rd and 2 at the Minny 41. Falk has a wide open rb in the flat for a first down. He misses him, but not only does he not see him he runs around in the pocket for 10 seconds and gets sacked when he had plenty of time to throw it away. Even if he throws it away they got 4th and 2 and will go for it. Guys do so much stupid stuff it makes you wonder. And obv the QB himself can basically toss a game.
I'm a reasonable person. I stated above I don't think it happens much in pro sports like NBA or NFL. But in college . . . lol. I mean Baylor looks like Bama on defense tonight. But then they'll play K State next game and give up 48.
I agree though that in games where you're not completely certain to just bet the opposite. I think in these early games I'm probably like 1-7 ATS. I know last year most of the favs covered, but you also had much better teams. This year you have a lot of bad teams, and teams that aren't good laying 7 because of the perceived notion the opponent is even worse. And bottom line is bad teams just don't cover laying points no matter who they're playing. So that's part of it and you're probably better off taking every dog blind up until New Years Eve. With that being said, it's not the dogs winning that's suspicious, it's the point disparity. 7 point dogs being up 20 at half every game. And really strange outlier results on one side of the ball. I mean we've gotten 3 today. WF lighting up Temple, Boise doing nothing vs a terrible D, and Wash St doing nothing vs an average secondary.
You can have guys who dog it purposely for one half and actually try hard the second half. That would make perfect sense. You would obviously never know because no one is going to come out and say hey I tried to throw this game. But the bottom line is there are so many ways to impact a game. Blocking, penalties, missed tackles, missed defensive assignments in the secondary, missed throws, fumbles (although fumbles look so bad I don't think most players would try to fumble). Any holding penalty is huge. Or even unnecessary roughness.
Speaking of missed throws, I'm watching Wash St earlier. I think it's 6-3. 3rd and 2 at the Minny 41. Falk has a wide open rb in the flat for a first down. He misses him, but not only does he not see him he runs around in the pocket for 10 seconds and gets sacked when he had plenty of time to throw it away. Even if he throws it away they got 4th and 2 and will go for it. Guys do so much stupid stuff it makes you wonder. And obv the QB himself can basically toss a game.
I'm a reasonable person. I stated above I don't think it happens much in pro sports like NBA or NFL. But in college . . . lol. I mean Baylor looks like Bama on defense tonight. But then they'll play K State next game and give up 48.
I agree though that in games where you're not completely certain to just bet the opposite. I think in these early games I'm probably like 1-7 ATS. I know last year most of the favs covered, but you also had much better teams. This year you have a lot of bad teams, and teams that aren't good laying 7 because of the perceived notion the opponent is even worse. And bottom line is bad teams just don't cover laying points no matter who they're playing. So that's part of it and you're probably better off taking every dog blind up until New Years Eve. With that being said, it's not the dogs winning that's suspicious, it's the point disparity. 7 point dogs being up 20 at half every game. And really strange outlier results on one side of the ball. I mean we've gotten 3 today. WF lighting up Temple, Boise doing nothing vs a terrible D, and Wash St doing nothing vs an average secondary.
any one here whos been betting for years has seen it all...some bowls years are like this one so far alot dogs covering and other years its almost all favs...its a crap shoot
any one here whos been betting for years has seen it all...some bowls years are like this one so far alot dogs covering and other years its almost all favs...its a crap shoot
Vegas absolutely dominanted today. The amount of bullshit no name dogs covering yesterday and today is an absolute joke. And it's disgraceful point shaving on both sides. Wake forest scores 31 in the first half and then all of a sudden starts doing shittty fuckking play calling game, not trusting his backup qb even though they had total momentum at halftime. So it allows the big live in play on wake wagers to lose and ultimately middle a bit. Then you have fuckkface Leach and his entire team basically take a dive vs Mitch "my career stagnated for four years" Leidner scoring 12 goddamn points. And then you have Boise only scoring 6 points in the 4th quarter now On baylors defense? Today's entire day seems rigged and there's days like this casinos make their money back.
Vegas absolutely dominanted today. The amount of bullshit no name dogs covering yesterday and today is an absolute joke. And it's disgraceful point shaving on both sides. Wake forest scores 31 in the first half and then all of a sudden starts doing shittty fuckking play calling game, not trusting his backup qb even though they had total momentum at halftime. So it allows the big live in play on wake wagers to lose and ultimately middle a bit. Then you have fuckkface Leach and his entire team basically take a dive vs Mitch "my career stagnated for four years" Leidner scoring 12 goddamn points. And then you have Boise only scoring 6 points in the 4th quarter now On baylors defense? Today's entire day seems rigged and there's days like this casinos make their money back.
no, they are not rigged...but, if thinking that they are rigged makes you better, then just go with that...
So if it makes you feel better that there has never been a fixed game in sports, then run with it you clown! WTF is wrong with some of you idiots.
Hey Fluffy, you're spot on, doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize when millions are bet on a single football game in prime time on ESPN, that the game is more than likely FIXED! Yup, that word that some of you morons haven't figured out yet.
no, they are not rigged...but, if thinking that they are rigged makes you better, then just go with that...
So if it makes you feel better that there has never been a fixed game in sports, then run with it you clown! WTF is wrong with some of you idiots.
Hey Fluffy, you're spot on, doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize when millions are bet on a single football game in prime time on ESPN, that the game is more than likely FIXED! Yup, that word that some of you morons haven't figured out yet.
So if it makes you feel better that there has never been a fixed game in sports, then run with it you clown! WTF is wrong with some of you idiots.
Hey Fluffy, you're spot on, doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize when millions are bet on a single football game in prime time on ESPN, that the game is more than likely FIXED! Yup, that word that some of you morons haven't figured out yet.
So if it makes you feel better that there has never been a fixed game in sports, then run with it you clown! WTF is wrong with some of you idiots.
Hey Fluffy, you're spot on, doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize when millions are bet on a single football game in prime time on ESPN, that the game is more than likely FIXED! Yup, that word that some of you morons haven't figured out yet.
Back in the 70's and 80's fixing games was a bit harder and totally controlled by the Mafia and Mob-connected Wiseguys, BUT NOW EVERYONE can be in on it, With Twitter....Cell phones....Internet.....Facebook....Text messages....eMail.....web based gambling Apps.....Sports Blogs....Team reporters.....ability to wager from your hand-held device while standing right in the bleachers behind the players, ANYONE and EVERYONE has a MOTIVE ($$$$) to fix games for their friends, family and loved ones who need some quick cash!!!
TRUST ME- THE FIX(es) are in on todays' NCAA GAMES!
Back in the 70's and 80's fixing games was a bit harder and totally controlled by the Mafia and Mob-connected Wiseguys, BUT NOW EVERYONE can be in on it, With Twitter....Cell phones....Internet.....Facebook....Text messages....eMail.....web based gambling Apps.....Sports Blogs....Team reporters.....ability to wager from your hand-held device while standing right in the bleachers behind the players, ANYONE and EVERYONE has a MOTIVE ($$$$) to fix games for their friends, family and loved ones who need some quick cash!!!
TRUST ME- THE FIX(es) are in on todays' NCAA GAMES!
Back in the 70's and 80's fixing games was a bit harder and totally controlled by the Mafia and Mob-connected Wiseguys, BUT NOW EVERYONE can be in on it, With Twitter....Cell phones....Internet.....Facebook....Text messages....eMail.....web based gambling Apps.....Sports Blogs....Team reporters.....ability to wager from your hand-held device while standing right in the bleachers behind the players, ANYONE and EVERYONE has a MOTIVE ($$$$) to fix games for their friends, family and loved ones who need some quick cash!!!
TRUST ME- THE FIX(es) are in on todays' NCAA GAMES!
Hoops Especially......
Your post is 100% correct, but some idiot will stay say it can't be done. I'll be damned if this isn't the most obvious fixing of games in my 30 yrs of gambling!
Back in the 70's and 80's fixing games was a bit harder and totally controlled by the Mafia and Mob-connected Wiseguys, BUT NOW EVERYONE can be in on it, With Twitter....Cell phones....Internet.....Facebook....Text messages....eMail.....web based gambling Apps.....Sports Blogs....Team reporters.....ability to wager from your hand-held device while standing right in the bleachers behind the players, ANYONE and EVERYONE has a MOTIVE ($$$$) to fix games for their friends, family and loved ones who need some quick cash!!!
TRUST ME- THE FIX(es) are in on todays' NCAA GAMES!
Hoops Especially......
Your post is 100% correct, but some idiot will stay say it can't be done. I'll be damned if this isn't the most obvious fixing of games in my 30 yrs of gambling!
But Ahhh....Confucius say....game only fixed when you bet wrong side.
Still a 50/50 proposition either you are on the side that is fixed or you are not. You need to be smart enough to figure out which side that is before the game begins.
But Ahhh....Confucius say....game only fixed when you bet wrong side.
Still a 50/50 proposition either you are on the side that is fixed or you are not. You need to be smart enough to figure out which side that is before the game begins.
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