This one scares me. I highly doubt UNC loses the way they are playing, but Wash St is the kind of team that can change the way a game is played (with their defense and extremely consistent game tempo). Tony Bennett coaches this team a lot like his pops used to coach those Wisconsin teams back when they had the cinderella team that went to the Final Four. That year, they beat Arizona and LSU who were both similar to UNC this year. This WASH St team is an exact clone of that WISCO team. That being said, i might throw UNC in a teaser if i can find another game that would have some value. Unc wins, but by single digits.
This one scares me. I highly doubt UNC loses the way they are playing, but Wash St is the kind of team that can change the way a game is played (with their defense and extremely consistent game tempo). Tony Bennett coaches this team a lot like his pops used to coach those Wisconsin teams back when they had the cinderella team that went to the Final Four. That year, they beat Arizona and LSU who were both similar to UNC this year. This WASH St team is an exact clone of that WISCO team. That being said, i might throw UNC in a teaser if i can find another game that would have some value. Unc wins, but by single digits.
UNC is red hot and may be the best team in the country (I still like Kansas and Texas) now that Lawson is back and healthy. There is about a 0% chance that they lose this game in Charlotte (which is far from a neutral site). Normally I would hesitate to give 7.5 points to a very solid and underrated Wazzou team. With the way they play D, that's like giving 12-15 to a more normal paced team. But UNC in Charlotte is not a normal situation (ask any ACC team who played the NCAA tourney there in the past 50 years). The Carolina faithful will be out and the Heels will win. I do think that the Cougars could give NC a good game on a neutral sight, but the committee has protected UNC (and rightly so, they had a great year and are a one seed) and that protection makes them too good to pass up here even laying the 7.5. Lawson is the difference. He's about 3 times as fast everyone on the Cougar team and he should be able to generate openings to get the rest of the UNC scorers off. I wouldn't be shocked to see this closer than I think as WSU is solid and always brings defense and effort, but UNC is simply too talented and too close to Chappel Hill for me to pick against them. Heels by 12.
UNC is red hot and may be the best team in the country (I still like Kansas and Texas) now that Lawson is back and healthy. There is about a 0% chance that they lose this game in Charlotte (which is far from a neutral site). Normally I would hesitate to give 7.5 points to a very solid and underrated Wazzou team. With the way they play D, that's like giving 12-15 to a more normal paced team. But UNC in Charlotte is not a normal situation (ask any ACC team who played the NCAA tourney there in the past 50 years). The Carolina faithful will be out and the Heels will win. I do think that the Cougars could give NC a good game on a neutral sight, but the committee has protected UNC (and rightly so, they had a great year and are a one seed) and that protection makes them too good to pass up here even laying the 7.5. Lawson is the difference. He's about 3 times as fast everyone on the Cougar team and he should be able to generate openings to get the rest of the UNC scorers off. I wouldn't be shocked to see this closer than I think as WSU is solid and always brings defense and effort, but UNC is simply too talented and too close to Chappel Hill for me to pick against them. Heels by 12.
Beaner I agree with you about Wash Sts Defense, most of the public(especially the East Coast bettors) have never seen this shut down D in action this year. I think I was one of the only ones on the Wash St/ND thread that picked Wash St.
With all that being said, I have to say that this might be the end of their Defensive run. They have never seen ACC firepower like NC is about to bring. This type of scoring doesn't exist in the Pac-10. NC will put up NBA type stats very easily. Roy Williams knows how to run opposing teams out of the gyms and will do his best to do that to Wash St. The game will be close untill the last 5-8 minutes, thats when NC clamps down and starts blowing fools out. Cowgill and Weaver have not faced fireworks like this during the season. If NC gets a double digit lead any time in this game, it's over.
Beaner I agree with you about Wash Sts Defense, most of the public(especially the East Coast bettors) have never seen this shut down D in action this year. I think I was one of the only ones on the Wash St/ND thread that picked Wash St.
With all that being said, I have to say that this might be the end of their Defensive run. They have never seen ACC firepower like NC is about to bring. This type of scoring doesn't exist in the Pac-10. NC will put up NBA type stats very easily. Roy Williams knows how to run opposing teams out of the gyms and will do his best to do that to Wash St. The game will be close untill the last 5-8 minutes, thats when NC clamps down and starts blowing fools out. Cowgill and Weaver have not faced fireworks like this during the season. If NC gets a double digit lead any time in this game, it's over.
Liking the points, but liking the OVER more. UNC will be in the 80's and WSU will be on their heals, no pun intended, the whole game. It is hard for a team, even as good as UNC, to be giving 8 points to a PAC-10 team full of seniors that is playing well right now.
Liking the points, but liking the OVER more. UNC will be in the 80's and WSU will be on their heals, no pun intended, the whole game. It is hard for a team, even as good as UNC, to be giving 8 points to a PAC-10 team full of seniors that is playing well right now.
I like the UNDER in this game. Last 9 times UNC has played a Pac 10 team, the game has gone under 8 times. Wash St. will keep the pace slower than what UNC wants
I like the UNDER in this game. Last 9 times UNC has played a Pac 10 team, the game has gone under 8 times. Wash St. will keep the pace slower than what UNC wants
UNC IS SO CLOSE TO HOME AND THAT'S A HUGE ADVANTAGE. WASH ST. FLIES 3000 MILES FOR THIS GAME AND PLAYS THE BEST TEAM IN THE COUNTRY. LAWSON'S JUST ABOUT BACK TO FULL STRENGTH. UNC WON THEIR FIRST TWO GAMES BY AN AVG OF 35 POINTS. WASH ST MIGHT HANG IN THIS ONE FOR A WHILE, BUT UNC IS TOO TALENTED AND WILL WIN THIS ONE BY DOUBLE DIGITS. A ROMP WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME ONE BIT.
UNC IS SO CLOSE TO HOME AND THAT'S A HUGE ADVANTAGE. WASH ST. FLIES 3000 MILES FOR THIS GAME AND PLAYS THE BEST TEAM IN THE COUNTRY. LAWSON'S JUST ABOUT BACK TO FULL STRENGTH. UNC WON THEIR FIRST TWO GAMES BY AN AVG OF 35 POINTS. WASH ST MIGHT HANG IN THIS ONE FOR A WHILE, BUT UNC IS TOO TALENTED AND WILL WIN THIS ONE BY DOUBLE DIGITS. A ROMP WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME ONE BIT.
i hate betting with an over whelming public favorite but this one is way to easy to go with the trend of the betting public.... UNC rolls in this one.... i would still be tempted to take the heals if they were a double digit favorite.... ps..... i played against Tyler when i was in AAU back in the day and our team made him, his brother and father all wonder what it could have been like to be a champion... STL GATORS 4 LIFE
i hate betting with an over whelming public favorite but this one is way to easy to go with the trend of the betting public.... UNC rolls in this one.... i would still be tempted to take the heals if they were a double digit favorite.... ps..... i played against Tyler when i was in AAU back in the day and our team made him, his brother and father all wonder what it could have been like to be a champion... STL GATORS 4 LIFE
UNC seems to be too strong... -8 is a lot, I don't think Washington State can slow down the Heels for a full 40 minutes.
gotta agree with this...
> i hate betting with an over whelming public favorite but this > one is
way to easy to go with the trend of the betting > public.... UNC rolls in
this one
UNC seems to be too strong... -8 is a lot, I don't think Washington State can slow down the Heels for a full 40 minutes.
gotta agree with this...
> i hate betting with an over whelming public favorite but this > one is
way to easy to go with the trend of the betting > public.... UNC rolls in
this one
I agree with the whole home court advantage deal but i dont think thats of use to a team that only lost their two games at home... and the trend of seeing UNC play closer then comfort games against teams that actually play defense seems to look pretty good to me in the case of the Cougars, anyone who makes the Heels work for their baskets will cause trouble to this team, from their OT games to Clemson who ended up losing to Villanova of all teams, who shouldnt even be there. The close one on a neutral court against Virginia Tech in the conference tourney... their home loss to Duke (which i hear is due to bad referees and no ty lawson, boo hoo Heels) and a close one in Florida somehow.. maybe Florida state plays tough at home (who even lost to NC st.) but dont think thats an excuse for the best team in the country. And finally kept it close against Georgia Tech. All team happen to have so sort of relatively decent defense that challenges the tar heels and gives them a little tough shots and that lack of defensive opponents could cause trouble for them, Arkansas comes out with no defense and not enough strength in rebounding, obviously they get stomped. And yes Washington st. has close to the worst rebounding in the country but somehow they have one of the top points against per game and fg% to be very low, so they must be doing something right. i didnt give this team enough credit last game so im giving it to them now, the defensive game will make it tough and keep in closer then expect although the heels will come out with it in the end. HEELS by 7
I agree with the whole home court advantage deal but i dont think thats of use to a team that only lost their two games at home... and the trend of seeing UNC play closer then comfort games against teams that actually play defense seems to look pretty good to me in the case of the Cougars, anyone who makes the Heels work for their baskets will cause trouble to this team, from their OT games to Clemson who ended up losing to Villanova of all teams, who shouldnt even be there. The close one on a neutral court against Virginia Tech in the conference tourney... their home loss to Duke (which i hear is due to bad referees and no ty lawson, boo hoo Heels) and a close one in Florida somehow.. maybe Florida state plays tough at home (who even lost to NC st.) but dont think thats an excuse for the best team in the country. And finally kept it close against Georgia Tech. All team happen to have so sort of relatively decent defense that challenges the tar heels and gives them a little tough shots and that lack of defensive opponents could cause trouble for them, Arkansas comes out with no defense and not enough strength in rebounding, obviously they get stomped. And yes Washington st. has close to the worst rebounding in the country but somehow they have one of the top points against per game and fg% to be very low, so they must be doing something right. i didnt give this team enough credit last game so im giving it to them now, the defensive game will make it tough and keep in closer then expect although the heels will come out with it in the end. HEELS by 7
Mountain Terps has the key statement that should be behind anyone thinking about betting on this game... "There is about a 0% chance that they lose this game in Charlotte"...
i would agree with every part of that statement except "about"... WSU has no chance of winning this game... so 8 pts is simply not enough to take...
the other CRAZY line in the round of 16 is Wisconsin only laying 5 pts against Davidson... PLEASE! if Davidson were in the Big 10 they would have finished in the bottom of the pack and not made the Big Dance... they have no business being in this game against easily the best defensive team in the tourney... easy money! Curry was great in round 1 and 2, but now he faces two things he didn't have to deal with in those rounds... 1) the pressure of people actually beginning to believe, and 2) DEFENSE!
Mountain Terps has the key statement that should be behind anyone thinking about betting on this game... "There is about a 0% chance that they lose this game in Charlotte"...
i would agree with every part of that statement except "about"... WSU has no chance of winning this game... so 8 pts is simply not enough to take...
the other CRAZY line in the round of 16 is Wisconsin only laying 5 pts against Davidson... PLEASE! if Davidson were in the Big 10 they would have finished in the bottom of the pack and not made the Big Dance... they have no business being in this game against easily the best defensive team in the tourney... easy money! Curry was great in round 1 and 2, but now he faces two things he didn't have to deal with in those rounds... 1) the pressure of people actually beginning to believe, and 2) DEFENSE!
do agree with Adistar on the over, but disagree that their is anything extremely difficult about an elite team like UNC beating up on a middle of the pack Pac-10 team... Pac-10 is easily the most over-rated conference in the country, and you would be wise to bet against all 3 remaining Pac-10 teams this round... only UCLA will get out of the round, and just barely...
do agree with Adistar on the over, but disagree that their is anything extremely difficult about an elite team like UNC beating up on a middle of the pack Pac-10 team... Pac-10 is easily the most over-rated conference in the country, and you would be wise to bet against all 3 remaining Pac-10 teams this round... only UCLA will get out of the round, and just barely...
Should be a great game here as these are the two teams that have had the easiest time getting into the Sweet 16. Washington State will have more than their hands full trying to slow down this UNC team. Spread could be tough, but either way I taking the over here. I don't think UNC will be trying to play much defense and will be much more concerned with getting out and running up and down the court at any opportunity.
Should be a great game here as these are the two teams that have had the easiest time getting into the Sweet 16. Washington State will have more than their hands full trying to slow down this UNC team. Spread could be tough, but either way I taking the over here. I don't think UNC will be trying to play much defense and will be much more concerned with getting out and running up and down the court at any opportunity.
The total line is set that low for a reason. Anyone who watches Wazzou play knows that they milk the clock limiting possessions for the other team, then rely on sharp shooter Low to hit those threes with less than 10 seconds to go on the shot clock. The whole team practically can fire in a three at any moment. The total is that low for a reason.
We all know about Carolina. But what about the ACC? Their conference was far from great this year, with teams like Maryland, NC State, BC, Georgia Tech, Virginia, Florida State and yes even Duke, having sub500 or break even ats records. The PAC10 only has two sub500 ats teams, and one break even squad. So now that we have the competition aspect out the way, let's go to the money.
88% of the money is on Carolina and the spread only went up ONE POINT. 80% of the bettors like this spread. What a laugh. The linesmakers have exactly what they want. Big advantage for Wazzou there.
72% of the bettors like the over. As mentioned, the Cougars like to milk it, and they are one of the best in the nation at doing it, NUMBER 2 IN THE NATION.
So you're going to give me 9 points with a team that is number two in the nation on defense, and that plays in a tougher conference from top to bottom.
I'm all over this one. Looks like I'll be the only one here who cashes the ticket and buys fresh Fendi sunglasses off the shelf. I'm learning from The Best.
The total line is set that low for a reason. Anyone who watches Wazzou play knows that they milk the clock limiting possessions for the other team, then rely on sharp shooter Low to hit those threes with less than 10 seconds to go on the shot clock. The whole team practically can fire in a three at any moment. The total is that low for a reason.
We all know about Carolina. But what about the ACC? Their conference was far from great this year, with teams like Maryland, NC State, BC, Georgia Tech, Virginia, Florida State and yes even Duke, having sub500 or break even ats records. The PAC10 only has two sub500 ats teams, and one break even squad. So now that we have the competition aspect out the way, let's go to the money.
88% of the money is on Carolina and the spread only went up ONE POINT. 80% of the bettors like this spread. What a laugh. The linesmakers have exactly what they want. Big advantage for Wazzou there.
72% of the bettors like the over. As mentioned, the Cougars like to milk it, and they are one of the best in the nation at doing it, NUMBER 2 IN THE NATION.
So you're going to give me 9 points with a team that is number two in the nation on defense, and that plays in a tougher conference from top to bottom.
I'm all over this one. Looks like I'll be the only one here who cashes the ticket and buys fresh Fendi sunglasses off the shelf. I'm learning from The Best.
Another word of caution. I went to my site to place my bet, and the spread has now dropped to +8.5 for Washington State. If Carolina is so superior and all of that good money is on them, then why are they losing value? At any rate, I like the 9 so I'm buying the hook back. I also will tease Wazzou and the under as a sweetener.
Another word of caution. I went to my site to place my bet, and the spread has now dropped to +8.5 for Washington State. If Carolina is so superior and all of that good money is on them, then why are they losing value? At any rate, I like the 9 so I'm buying the hook back. I also will tease Wazzou and the under as a sweetener.
Seems like North Carolina is the much superior team, but love the way Bennett coaches. Tough defense on the part of WSU keep this close. In Bennett's last game before leaving for Indiana, North Carolina wins by 7. Taking WSU +8.5 for $3300. Cash it!
Seems like North Carolina is the much superior team, but love the way Bennett coaches. Tough defense on the part of WSU keep this close. In Bennett's last game before leaving for Indiana, North Carolina wins by 7. Taking WSU +8.5 for $3300. Cash it!
This is the same Wash St team that was beaten by Arizona twice this year by double digits. UNC and Arizona have similar games and like to run. With that and a virtual home game in Charlotte for UNC and UNC playing their best ball right now I like UNC.
This is the same Wash St team that was beaten by Arizona twice this year by double digits. UNC and Arizona have similar games and like to run. With that and a virtual home game in Charlotte for UNC and UNC playing their best ball right now I like UNC.
STYLISTIC- I don't know where you are betting - but just about everywhere else the line for this game came out at UNC-7.5 and has jumped all the way to -8.5 or -9 in some books....thus- the betting public is taking UNC heavily.....so where do you get off saying that the UNC bet is losing value??? If anything that would give the UNC bet more value.....????? unless you are fading the public....do you know what you are talking about ????
STYLISTIC- I don't know where you are betting - but just about everywhere else the line for this game came out at UNC-7.5 and has jumped all the way to -8.5 or -9 in some books....thus- the betting public is taking UNC heavily.....so where do you get off saying that the UNC bet is losing value??? If anything that would give the UNC bet more value.....????? unless you are fading the public....do you know what you are talking about ????
buffalo... stylistic, like most people, doesn't actually check into where the line opened... they see the opening line at their place and assume that's the opening line...
also, the statement that the Pac-10 is better than the ACC from top to bottom is bogus... the Pac-10 is highly over-rated... believe me! i live in Pac-10 country... outside of UCLA they are all a joke (yes, Stanford, too)...
buffalo... stylistic, like most people, doesn't actually check into where the line opened... they see the opening line at their place and assume that's the opening line...
also, the statement that the Pac-10 is better than the ACC from top to bottom is bogus... the Pac-10 is highly over-rated... believe me! i live in Pac-10 country... outside of UCLA they are all a joke (yes, Stanford, too)...
The line was -9 for Carloina on my book when I made my original post in the thread. Then later on in the morning when I made my play it has fallen to -8.5. I bet with Greek.com.
I get my money numbers from the Las Vegas Insiders sportsbook as to where the money is going. I am learning from my husband, known to you guys as Cocknocker. Are you going to suggest that he doesn't know what he is talking about? You're not in his league yet, gentlemen. Not even close.
Here's what i know. I know that the line opened at -7.5, however, it did go to -9 and it did fall to -8.5. That is called a loss in value. I may not be the smartest girl in the world, but i do know a sale item when i see one. And the Heels are on sale. 9 to 8.5 is not an increase in the spread, no?
The PAC10 overall has better ATS records than the ACC from top to bottom. You can go to the WInning Edge and check the standings for conferences and look at the ats numbers for both
Please get your facts straight when you make comments.
Buffalo Bill, I am a novice to the sports gambling world. But i do have an advantage over you. I am learning from The Best.I am now learning how to do write ups and research information and read local newspapers, etc. I want to become the best female capper on the web. Instead of watching my husband make all of the money I decided to join in. And so far I am making a lot of money following in his footsteps.
Of course I'm fading the public. It only takes a few weeks in this game to find out that the public is wrong more often than not. I have been told that the lights stay on in the Desert because the public donates money to their cause.
So really, BB and GoG, do you know what you're talking about?
Hey what's that green thing under my picture? Why don't you boys have one?
The line was -9 for Carloina on my book when I made my original post in the thread. Then later on in the morning when I made my play it has fallen to -8.5. I bet with Greek.com.
I get my money numbers from the Las Vegas Insiders sportsbook as to where the money is going. I am learning from my husband, known to you guys as Cocknocker. Are you going to suggest that he doesn't know what he is talking about? You're not in his league yet, gentlemen. Not even close.
Here's what i know. I know that the line opened at -7.5, however, it did go to -9 and it did fall to -8.5. That is called a loss in value. I may not be the smartest girl in the world, but i do know a sale item when i see one. And the Heels are on sale. 9 to 8.5 is not an increase in the spread, no?
The PAC10 overall has better ATS records than the ACC from top to bottom. You can go to the WInning Edge and check the standings for conferences and look at the ats numbers for both
Please get your facts straight when you make comments.
Buffalo Bill, I am a novice to the sports gambling world. But i do have an advantage over you. I am learning from The Best.I am now learning how to do write ups and research information and read local newspapers, etc. I want to become the best female capper on the web. Instead of watching my husband make all of the money I decided to join in. And so far I am making a lot of money following in his footsteps.
Of course I'm fading the public. It only takes a few weeks in this game to find out that the public is wrong more often than not. I have been told that the lights stay on in the Desert because the public donates money to their cause.
So really, BB and GoG, do you know what you're talking about?
Hey what's that green thing under my picture? Why don't you boys have one?
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