i watched the video and the guy they were after was walking away and then there weren't too many people right near him when the police started shooting. i'm not sure how the police shot 9 different people in that scenario but my point is that these police offices are trained at this kind of thing. whenever i hear people talk about how much better these situations would go if the average idiots on the street had their guns out too, i think that's crazy. it's the rightwing religion mentality. you say it over and over and people believe it without switching their brain to the on position.
i'm not taking a position on gun control, but i think the argument that if some of the bystanders had guns, these situations would work out better is ridiculous, despite how easy it looks on 24.
i watched the video and the guy they were after was walking away and then there weren't too many people right near him when the police started shooting. i'm not sure how the police shot 9 different people in that scenario but my point is that these police offices are trained at this kind of thing. whenever i hear people talk about how much better these situations would go if the average idiots on the street had their guns out too, i think that's crazy. it's the rightwing religion mentality. you say it over and over and people believe it without switching their brain to the on position.
i'm not taking a position on gun control, but i think the argument that if some of the bystanders had guns, these situations would work out better is ridiculous, despite how easy it looks on 24.
that may be true, slovak, but my point is that if 9 people get shot or injured when trained police officers are doing the shooting in broad daylight when there really isn't much fo a crowd around the guy they are trying to shoot, does anyone really think these situations would improve if the average person pulled out his or her gun and started shooting? i know people say it but i'm not sure those people are really thinking it through.
that may be true, slovak, but my point is that if 9 people get shot or injured when trained police officers are doing the shooting in broad daylight when there really isn't much fo a crowd around the guy they are trying to shoot, does anyone really think these situations would improve if the average person pulled out his or her gun and started shooting? i know people say it but i'm not sure those people are really thinking it through.
I personally think that equipping more citizens with weapons in order to prevent things like this is just silly. I get the feeling that you'd have far too many people playing police man. I fear that even more innocent bystanders would be caught in the crossfire of a law abiding citizen trying to stop a crazed gunman with his own gun. Just think of the confusion and chaos when you have two law abiding citizens trying to prevent a rampage like this at the same time. Who to shoot?
I personally think that equipping more citizens with weapons in order to prevent things like this is just silly. I get the feeling that you'd have far too many people playing police man. I fear that even more innocent bystanders would be caught in the crossfire of a law abiding citizen trying to stop a crazed gunman with his own gun. Just think of the confusion and chaos when you have two law abiding citizens trying to prevent a rampage like this at the same time. Who to shoot?
I think the thing is that if more people had guns, then other people may be less hesitant to just whip one out and start shooting in the first place. It's easy for a guy to just pull out a gun and shoot someone because he knows that the chances of any other guns being a threat to him nearby are slim.
I doubt that someone holding a gun would prevent a mad man from unleashing his weapon. You'd have to be mentally unstable to even consider doing that in the first place, regardless of the outcome. Half these guys kill themselves after it's all over anyways so they clearly don't give a fuck whether they live or die.
I think the thing is that if more people had guns, then other people may be less hesitant to just whip one out and start shooting in the first place. It's easy for a guy to just pull out a gun and shoot someone because he knows that the chances of any other guns being a threat to him nearby are slim.
I doubt that someone holding a gun would prevent a mad man from unleashing his weapon. You'd have to be mentally unstable to even consider doing that in the first place, regardless of the outcome. Half these guys kill themselves after it's all over anyways so they clearly don't give a fuck whether they live or die.
i don't know slovack, it seems like the people who do this shit these days don't give a shit what happens to them. they either pull their guns on police and get blasted, shoot themselves or end up in a courtroom staring at the wall like a nutcase. when was the last time one of these guys actually fought their case and went to trial. they all go down pretty quickly and easily, one way or another.
i don't know slovack, it seems like the people who do this shit these days don't give a shit what happens to them. they either pull their guns on police and get blasted, shoot themselves or end up in a courtroom staring at the wall like a nutcase. when was the last time one of these guys actually fought their case and went to trial. they all go down pretty quickly and easily, one way or another.
I personally think that equipping more citizens with weapons in order to prevent things like this is just silly. I get the feeling that you'd have far too many people playing police man. I fear that even more innocent bystanders would be caught in the crossfire of a law abiding citizen trying to stop a crazed gunman with his own gun. Just think of the confusion and chaos when you have two law abiding citizens trying to prevent a rampage like this at the same time. Who to shoot?
It's crazy!
There are an estimated 250 million firearms in America.
This incident shows that the "trained law enforcement officers" aren't all they're cracked up to be.
I personally think that equipping more citizens with weapons in order to prevent things like this is just silly. I get the feeling that you'd have far too many people playing police man. I fear that even more innocent bystanders would be caught in the crossfire of a law abiding citizen trying to stop a crazed gunman with his own gun. Just think of the confusion and chaos when you have two law abiding citizens trying to prevent a rampage like this at the same time. Who to shoot?
It's crazy!
There are an estimated 250 million firearms in America.
This incident shows that the "trained law enforcement officers" aren't all they're cracked up to be.
cop 'training' is crap. cops are the ones who mistake a subway sandwich for a gun and shoot the sandwich holder 37 times. cops are the ones who have skull-crushing batons and tasers, yet need to shoot a homeless guy wielding a 3-inch knife 18 times. private cits could do much better.
cop 'training' is crap. cops are the ones who mistake a subway sandwich for a gun and shoot the sandwich holder 37 times. cops are the ones who have skull-crushing batons and tasers, yet need to shoot a homeless guy wielding a 3-inch knife 18 times. private cits could do much better.
Another huge black eye for the NYPD, one of the most corrupt and most certainly aggressive police forces in the country.
Here is my question to those who run the NYPD.
Ok, 9 people were injured but weren't killed. Let's say hypothetically all 9 were killed and or maimed (since maiming is just as bad if not worse if it results in paralysis and/or a lost limb) and given the amount of gunfire in these situations, it's not a stretch to say that is possible.
How does injuring 9 people in one of the most densely populated cities on the planet, to kill one murderer translate into effective police work?!!!
If the man started shooting wildly himself, he could kill at most 6??? with his clip.
Instead the police start shooting wildly with multiple guns and several clips (injuring 9 bystanders translates to 'wild shooting' in my book), and almost kill 9 people.
There HAS to be different protocol for the police to handle situations such as these. This is one of the most well-funded police forces in the world. Where is the effective training when it comes to firing in a densely populated area!?
Another huge black eye for the NYPD, one of the most corrupt and most certainly aggressive police forces in the country.
Here is my question to those who run the NYPD.
Ok, 9 people were injured but weren't killed. Let's say hypothetically all 9 were killed and or maimed (since maiming is just as bad if not worse if it results in paralysis and/or a lost limb) and given the amount of gunfire in these situations, it's not a stretch to say that is possible.
How does injuring 9 people in one of the most densely populated cities on the planet, to kill one murderer translate into effective police work?!!!
If the man started shooting wildly himself, he could kill at most 6??? with his clip.
Instead the police start shooting wildly with multiple guns and several clips (injuring 9 bystanders translates to 'wild shooting' in my book), and almost kill 9 people.
There HAS to be different protocol for the police to handle situations such as these. This is one of the most well-funded police forces in the world. Where is the effective training when it comes to firing in a densely populated area!?
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