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Posted: 12/16/2008 10:16:04 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by vanzack:

This thread should never die.
 

 

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Posted: 12/17/2008 12:18:02 AM
Van - have you put up your  christmas tree yet on your yacht ?
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let the garbage die already you morons ...
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Posted: 12/17/2008 12:39:29 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Trinitiyy:

let the garbage die already you morons ...


YOU JUST POSTED ASSWIPE
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Posted: 12/18/2008 12:27:34 AM
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YOU JUST POSTED ASSWIPE

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Posted: 7/13/2010 9:20:53 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Trinitiyy:

let the garbage die already you morons ...

 

Theres no stopping what cant be stopped.....no killin what cant be killed....

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Posted: 7/13/2010 10:36:30 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by vanzack:

Sorry, didnt see this thread until this morning.  We were sailing the passage between St Lucia and St Vincent and I always seem to lose the satellite hookup.  My captain told me about this thread this morning, and you can imagine my excitement.  I adore threads devoted to my favorite subject - me.
 
Over the years with my own experience, I have identified 2 types of gamblers.  Let me describe:
 
1.  Type A gamblers (95%) - gamble for fun, entertainment, action junkies, chase, bet teasers and negative EV parlays, use CC to fund their accounts, think of gambling money as rent money or spending money, bet haphazardly, dont understand or care to understand theory, never introspect about how to get better, are jealous, dont understand those who win, believe myths about gambling, believe in luck, believe in non correlated trends, dont care to know math or probability, talk about fixes, talk about their own bad luck, criticize anyone who wins, theorize about how people win incorrectly, put emphasis on all the wrong things, spend all their time searching for the winner of the day, are emotional and let their emotions rule them and their decisions, and lose money.  These are the equivalent of cavemen looking up at the stars, hypothesizing about how a world they dont understand works.
 
2.  Type B gamblers (5%) - Everything is done to make money, treat gambling as a business, understand winners are not the most important thing in making money, use advanced techniques to make the most money, constantly evaluate process rather than handicapping, use methods other than handicapping to make money, dont chase, dont bet for action, pick their spots, are emotionless, are like machines, understand math and probability, and make money.
 
Now - its no surprise that 95% of the posters in this thread, and 95% of the posters on covers are type A gamblers, and its no surprise either the jealously of me in this thread.  You guys just dont get it, probably never will because you dont have the patience or the fortitude, and you will always be on the sidelines losing money wondering with your buddies (the majority) "how can anyone make money doing this"?
 
All I can tell you is that I have made money the last 7 years doing this.  I can also tell you that there are plenty of others here who are professionals and make money too - I know this for a fact.  The bottom line is that I can make more money going 53% than you morons can going 60% - you can laugh all you want but it is your own defense system doing the laughing - because you know its true.  I cant post on covers all the times I make money without even making a bet, or how I can make money live betting, or how I sell games off at HT, or all of the other strategies I employ - you guys dont understand all of this - all you understand is the "winner of the day mentality".
 
Ever wonder why the most popular threads (besides the ones about me) are the ones with the hot handicapper of the day?  Pucku or matrixxx or whatever - ever look in those threads and see who is posting there?  Guys with less than 3 months on covers.... and ever say to yourself "I wonder why that is?"  Why isnt the guys posting in Puckus threads today going to be in the guy who is hot handicappers threads 4 months from now?  Because he is already broke.  Because he has no idea, even with Puckus picks how to make money and he is BROKE.  Dont you morons get this?  Look at the date next to my name.  You think Im losing year after year after year?  You think I post the insight I do, without having some clue as to what Im doing?  You know better.
 
Now, I will answer questions if you like.  St Vincent is a nice place but the supermodels are getting antsy to head down to Curacao to party with the boys from Pinny, so Im going to set sail this evening, but I will check back to this thread.  I always like helping the boys at covers.  I barely even post in the regular forums anymore because the PBOX Nation are the only ones who can talk about hgih level theory anymore - if you post out in the baseball forum you get drowned off the first page in an hour because of all of your "pick of the day" threads - and all of you idiots keep losing money and dont know why - cavemen looking up at the stars.
 
And for those who say "nobody who bets XXX would post on covers" or "nobody who does this for a living would post on covers" - let me explain something to you:  Its relatively a boring solitary existence gambling for a living.  You morons have the distraction of going to your mundane 9-5 existence every day which provides the necessary social outlets for you to get through the day.  Why wouldnt a gambler seek out people of like mind to "hang out with" even if it is on a message board?  You guys dont get it, people like me are MORE likely to post here than you idiots who might get the boss mad if he sees you on here.  Cavemen.
 
If I had a nickel for every time I met a group of guys as dumb as the guys on covers, Id have 5 cents right now.
 

Wow.  This post is like 2 years old, and I just reread it for the first time in about that long - and I must say - it is a masterpiece.

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Posted: 7/13/2010 11:03:58 PM

I just reread this whole thread.

It is friggin funny.

In the past 2.5 years, I had totally forgotten about this.

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Posted: 7/13/2010 11:20:47 PM
So Van, how (if at all), has your gambling evolved in those 2.5 years?
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Posted: 7/14/2010 12:00:43 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by vanzack:

I just reread this whole thread.

It is friggin funny.

In the past 2.5 years, I had totally forgotten about this.



garbage, I can't even remember what I did yesterday.

Its time you make a character under an alias. No more VaughnK = covers needs you!
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Posted: 7/18/2010 1:52:20 PM

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Posted: 7/18/2010 2:53:18 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

So Van, how (if at all), has your gambling evolved in those 2.5 years?
 
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Posted: 9/2/2010 6:30:21 PM
Just wanted to bow down at the altar like the other vanzack-worshippers in this thread.





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Posted: 9/2/2010 6:34:39 PM
bookyman65  hit a 25 game parlay

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Posted: 9/2/2010 6:35:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bigirondawg:

Just wanted to bow down at the altar like the other vanzack-worshippers in this thread.





 

obviously,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you took the time to dig up a thread that hadn't been touched in months............he must be on your mind...............a little odd

 

 

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Posted: 9/2/2010 6:45:58 PM

After nights of crunching numbers and carrying the 1’s and crossing the t’s I came to an astounding realization. Starting with a mere $2000 bankroll, betting at a controlled rate hitting at only a 55% win percentage, over six years your bankroll would be at one million dollars.

                 Here is how it works.

o   You must play 730 games per year either ATS or O/U; Lay no more then -110.

o   You must hit at a 55% or better winning percentage (5.22% R.O.I.)

o   You must always bet 5% of your bankroll, never more, never less. Period.

o   You must never cash out a penny unless you are above 55% in a year.

 

It’s that simple. Really. Here is the math I have done in an excel worksheet which breaks it down even further.

 

 

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Posted: 9/2/2010 6:47:32 PM

Bank/Yr
 Plays/Yr.
 Win%
 Wins
 Losses
 Net Win
 Bet P/G
 R.O.I
 Profit/YR
 Year
 
$2000
 730
 55%
 401.5
 361.35
 40.15
 5%
 5.22%
 $3810
 1
 
$5810
 730
 55%
 401.5
 361.35
 40.15
 5%
 5.22%
 $11070
 2
 
$16881
 730
 55%
 401.5
 361.35
 40.15
 5%
 5.22%
 $32164
 3
 
$49045
 730
 55%
 401.5
 361.35
 40.15
 5%
 5.22%
 $93447
 4
 
$142493
 730
 55%
 401.5
 361.35
 40.15
 5%
 5.22%
 $271492
 5
 
$413985
 730
 55%
 401.5
 361.35
 40.15
 5%
 5.22%
 $788766
 6
 
 s you can see after your sixth year of betting you would have $1,202,750 in your betting account. Now some questions you may be asking. In the last two years of the table you would be betting a large amount of money per game. Keep in mind there are people out there betting much more per game than any of us could ever dream of, this kind of action exists and although it may seem strange, but that could be you in just four years of successful controlled wagering. How do you know what 5% of your bankroll is if you don’t know if you have won or lost yet. The answer is simple, for that entire year you do not increase or decrease your wager. When you start off at $2000, for 365 days you are going to be betting the equivalent of two games per day playing to win $80. No matter what, you play those stakes until you break the $5810 mark in your bankroll which is 40.15 games above .500 in the record books. You do not have to play exactly two games per day; you play what your information presents you with. If there is a day where nothing is worth risking money on, pass, you still have a whole year to make up those lost games, the goal is to get to 730 by the end of the year.

You can play the stock market, start a person house in Nevada or more to Thailand and cash in your dollars for yen; nothing is going to get you to a million dollars quicker than this betting pattern. Think about it, 55% in a year is by no means not achievable. You simply have to pace yourself for 55 wins per 100 games. You must realize you are going to lose, almost as much as you win. In fact over 730 games you are only going to win 40 more times then you lose. The only key to success is discipline and a consistent strong source of information provided to you by a proven sports handicapper or an insider source from a trustworthy media network. With all of those pieces in place and a $2000 bankroll, your only six years away from the big prize.

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QUOTE Originally Posted by cacabware:

 

obviously,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you took the time to dig up a thread that hadn't been touched in months............he must be on your mind...............a little odd

 

 




Wow... your sense of humor is sharp as a baseball bat.


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Posted: 12/3/2010 6:03:54 AM

Just came across this thread  Such a classic!

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Posted: 12/3/2010 6:09:32 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by vanzack:

This thread should never die.
 

... and it appears that it won't 
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QUOTE Originally Posted by umgmu:

If you are around long enough, you can tell who is most likely telling the truth about their gambling 'acumen'..
 
 

Yep the one's that don't tell  The ppl that brag are like the kid that says he has a 12 person but in real life his girlfriends clit is bigger then his person  A winner never tells 

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Posted: 12/3/2010 12:32:14 PM
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Dan Quayle has nothing on you.


I don't care what your position is on VanZack.  This is just hilarious!!!!  Gotta love political nostalgia.  Really puts the "E" in potato!!! 

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