My early Christmas wishes for the Detroit Tigers............

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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:47:42 AM
widows nailed it.............
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Posted: 10/31/2012 9:44:54 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

Let me see .285 BA 43 HR and 128 RBI'S yeah i think the Tigers could use those numbers.  And i'm sure all those numbers would increase playing in the Central division.


Those number would decrease....NOT PLAYING 81 games IN TEXAS.
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Posted: 10/31/2012 9:49:26 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by lookingtowin:



I know Hamilton will come at a price.  But when you  think of the Texas Rangers who do you think of first Josh Hamilton.  So the pressure on him to perform was huge.  Now when he comes to the Tigers he will have a triple crown and more than likely MVP player in Cabrera, Fielder DH Martinez and i think all three will ease the pressure on him and he will play even better especially with the bat.
Nolan Ryan was a hell of a pitcher but he is not the manager of the ball club and should keep his mouth shut.  I know Dave Dombrowski would never call a player out and like i said i think Leyland would do a better job of handling him.  Illitch has got the funds and wants a world series badly and i want to see Hamilton in a Tigers uniform.


When I think of Texas....I don't think of Hamilton. I think of Beltre, Cruz, Ogando....players like that who kill the Tigers. Elvis Andrus stealing bases...the hands over the helmets after a stolen base...the Rangers having fun...something the Tigers players lack. I just feel like other teams play with less pressure than the Tigers. Of course there is always pressure...but some teams don't show it.
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Posted: 10/31/2012 10:44:16 AM
Pretty sure the budget isn't accommodating three $20 M guys in the middle of the line-up. You could buy most of Detroit for that.
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Posted: 10/31/2012 10:54:14 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by esplanade:

Pretty sure the budget isn't accommodating three $20 M guys in the middle of the line-up. You could buy most of Detroit for that.


Exactly. You realize Verlander's contract is done in two years, right? What if Illitch has passed...will the new owner continue to spend? I doubt it.
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Posted: 10/31/2012 4:20:35 PM
I wish the Tigers would make an offer to Soria....even though he is coming off an injury.
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Posted: 11/1/2012 5:58:01 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Absolutxedge22:

I wish the Tigers would make an offer to Soria....even though he is coming off an injury.


Now thats a real wize move.  He's done. He has already said he is considering retirement.  
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Posted: 11/1/2012 6:01:00 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by esplanade:

Pretty sure the budget isn't accommodating three $20 M guys in the middle of the line-up. You could buy most of Detroit for that.


You actually think Illitch is worried about a budget. His name is Mike Illitch not William Clay Ford.


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Posted: 11/1/2012 6:10:45 AM
I think its time for the rest of you posters to make up your own wish  lists.  I still want Hamilton.  Austin Jackson leading off Ofante Cabrera, Martinez, Hamilton, Fielder, then i don't care who for 7-8-9 Perralta, Dirks, Berry if Garcia stays.  Illitch can afford him and i want him.  Not so sure i wouldn"t try and get rid of fielder or force him to loose 75 pounds in the off season.  Who the hell would pick up that contract.  Oh yeah the dumb behind Yanks.
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Posted: 11/1/2012 6:16:24 AM
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Originally Posted by lookingtowin:



INolan Ryan was a hell of a pitcher but he is not the manager of the ball club and should keep his mouth shut. 

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u make the point that hamilton is a great player; can't dispute that...

u say nolan ryan should zip it; the point precisely is that ryan DOES normally stay out of it, and for him to open the pie hole in this instance IMO speaks volumes...

u win with pitching and defence...even if the tigers don't re-sign sanchez, the big 3 is as good as it gets; the bullpen can be shored up...

with martinez coming back, i don't believe the offence needs another thumper...

a michael bourn type who can steal bases and play defence (2-time gold glove outfielder IMO is a much more prudent investment...

 

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Posted: 11/1/2012 6:33:58 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bk_widows:

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u make the point that hamilton is a great player; can't dispute that...

u say nolan ryan should zip it; the point precisely is that ryan DOES normally stay out of it, and for him to open the pie hole in this instance IMO speaks volumes...

u win with pitching and defence...even if the tigers don't re-sign sanchez, the big 3 is as good as it gets; the bullpen can be shored up...

with martinez coming back, i don't believe the offence needs another thumper...

a michael bourn type who can steal bases and play defence (2-time gold glove outfielder IMO is a much more prudent investment...

 



Can always use as many thumpers as you can get.  Like winning games with those walk offs.  Hamilton is more than a thumper 128 RBI's didn't all come off the long ball.
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Posted: 11/1/2012 6:59:28 AM

whatever team signs josh will be getting a great player...

here's hoping he can stay healthy, and on the straight 'n narrow

 

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Posted: 11/1/2012 8:19:19 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bk_widows:

whatever team signs josh will be getting a great player...

here's hoping he can stay healthy, and on the straight 'n narrow

 

Want the Tigers to sign him let him play left field and no long term deals max 3 years.

 

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Posted: 11/1/2012 8:22:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Absolutxedge22:



Those number would decrease....NOT PLAYING 81 games IN TEXAS.

I must be dumber than a stick what do you mean not playing 81 games in Texas.

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Posted: 11/1/2012 10:33:44 AM
Shane Victorino


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Posted: 11/1/2012 12:07:21 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

I must be dumber than a stick what do you mean not playing 81 games in Texas.


There is a well known jet stream in right center present in the Ballpark at Arlingon. Josh benefits from this in a similar fashion that Granderson benefits from the more well known cheap right field Yankee Stadium Home Runs.
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Posted: 11/1/2012 12:08:54 PM
As I said earlier, I would rather ave one of Bourn, Pagan or Hunter. Those are Los t names being thrown around in te Detroit News today.
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Posted: 11/1/2012 12:20:18 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Tigermike1975:


There is a well known jet stream in right center present in the Ballpark at Arlingon. Josh benefits from this in a similar fashion that Granderson benefits from the more well known cheap right field Yankee Stadium Home Runs.

I hear ya i am dumber than a stick.

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Posted: 11/1/2012 12:33:55 PM
Ok Ok i am backing off on my Hamilton stand won't be upset if they do go after him just a short term contract.   What we need is somebody who can hit all year and in the playoffs like Young hit in the playoffs he was great.                                     The way Granderson hit in the series against Detroit he would benefit if the baseball was the size of a beach ball not just the short porch in right. 
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Posted: 11/1/2012 12:55:19 PM
It will be interesting to see who offers what to Hamilton. Obviously he is going to be looking for a long term big money deal, and I think it will be foolish of any team to make a long commitment to him. With his past history and his fondness for injuries, I think he is way too much risk. Let Boston or the Yankees have him. Although a healthy Hamilton probably hits 50 Homers in that joke of a stadium in New York.
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Posted: 11/1/2012 3:51:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tigermike1975:

It will be interesting to see who offers what to Hamilton. Obviously he is going to be looking for a long term big money deal, and I think it will be foolish of any team to make a long commitment to him. With his past history and his fondness for injuries, I think he is way too much risk. Let Boston or the Yankees have him. Although a healthy Hamilton probably hits 50 Homers in that joke of a stadium in New York.

Tigermike i think you will agree we can't afford to stand pat.  We need something some speed, another big bat.  Starting rotation is ok and hopefully they will resign Sanchez.  But we can not afford to stand PAT.

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Posted: 11/1/2012 4:17:45 PM
I totally agree we can't do nothing. With a reasonable payroll in mind here are the moves I would look to make:

1- resign Sanchez. This is the most important move to me. This gives them the best 1-4 in the AL hands down.

2- Trade Porcello. See if you can include Boesch in the deal as well. This gets rid of some of the arbitration raises that are due. I would settle for prospects to create more organizational depth. this makes Smyly the 5th starter until someone is ready to push him.

3- Sign one of Bourn, Pagan or Tori Hunter.

4 - Stay far away from Josh Hamilton, or anyone whose last name is Upton.

5- wait until late in the free agent season and see if there is a reclamation type closer available for a one year deal cheap. If not go with what we have in house and make a move at the trade deadline if it is deemed necessary.

Adding in a healthy Victor Martinez should also be a major plus.

Ideally I would like to trade Peralta and Avila as well, but the likelihood of this is so unrealistic I will accept that we have to live with them.
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Posted: 11/1/2012 7:07:08 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Tigermike1975:

I totally agree we can't do nothing. With a reasonable payroll in mind here are the moves I would look to make:

1- resign Sanchez. This is the most important move to me. This gives them the best 1-4 in the AL hands down.

2- Trade Porcello. See if you can include Boesch in the deal as well. This gets rid of some of the arbitration raises that are due. I would settle for prospects to create more organizational depth. this makes Smyly the 5th starter until someone is ready to push him.

3- Sign one of Bourn, Pagan or Tori Hunter.

4 - Stay far away from Josh Hamilton, or anyone whose last name is Upton.

5- wait until late in the free agent season and see if there is a reclamation type closer available for a one year deal cheap. If not go with what we have in house and make a move at the trade deadline if it is deemed necessary.

Adding in a healthy Victor Martinez should also be a major plus.

Ideally I would like to trade Peralta and Avila as well, but the likelihood of this is so unrealistic I will accept that we have to live with them.


Going to be an interesting off season i'm sure Dombrowski and Leyland have got the map out may need a GPS.
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Posted: 11/1/2012 8:08:26 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by lookingtowin:



Going to be an interesting off season i'm sure Dombrowski and Leyland have got the map out may need a GPS.

So many ways it could play out, it will be interesting to see which way the wind blows. No matter what I expect to see some action!
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Posted: 11/1/2012 10:13:48 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

Tigermike i think you will agree we can't afford to stand pat.  We need something some speed, another big bat.  Starting rotation is ok and hopefully they will resign Sanchez.  But we can not afford to stand PAT.



Addition of Victor Martinez is not standing pat. If nothing is working can always make a trade during if though more difficult now than before.
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