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Posted: 4/25/2012 1:54:24 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Nut_Flopper:

You guys kill me with your partisan bullshit and the blame game. We have been sold out by the both parties with he exception of a few renegade politicians. GOP and Dems should just merge and become the RAPP (rape and pillage party).

Our current situation is does not lie with a single POTUS, it has been building for the past 40 years.

Bush was a terrible President and a major contributor to our current woes

Obama is a terrible President and continues our path to destruction

IF Romney is elected will likely be a terrible President

In 2016 if we have not already collapsed, will hopefully be our awakening to turn our runaway freight train of a country around and get back on track.

If Ron Paul was miraculously elected he is the only one talking about real "change". Attempting to get back to basics, repealing a lot of the convoluted bullshit laws, promoting personal freedom yet is treated like a crazy uncle.

If the majority of politicians think he is crazy consider the friggin source. They are the one's who completely fucked up our country and are now sitting on their hands for any real solutions. They have bankrupted our country, continually erode our freedoms, raped and pillaged the people and either are oblivious or too chicken garbage to actually do whats right and apply real fixes to our situation. They have the friggin gall to call Ron Paul a loon. If the current political climate think he is crazy then sign me up because I want the exact opposite of what they are doing.

I am writing Ron Paul in regardless because it doesn't matter if Obama or Romney wins we are fucked either way and I can have a clear concience for voting the only candidate at least saying he is going to do something.




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Posted: 4/25/2012 2:07:12 PM
Again?
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Posted: 4/25/2012 4:45:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MuttleysMoney:

I would vote Obama before I would vote for Romney. I think Obama is the best out of the bad choices. Did anyone notice that you can spell "liar" out of Romney's first name Willard? 

I am not going to vote for Obama but you are right the choices we have had basically all of my life (Bill CIinton and Ronald Reagon might be the only two exceptions) have been absolutely pitiful.  As much as I cannot stand Romney I just cannot vote for Obama again.  Yes I said AGAIN!  Only three times in my life did I vote for a Democrat (Bill Clinton twice and Obama last year) and that was mostly due to how bat $hit crazy McCain is but I have now come to the conclusion that Obama is not much better.

I am so disappointed with the political process.  All these guys are puppets and I honestly am a little worried about who is controlling the strings.  I have no doubt it makes any difference who wins as the same puppet master controls both.  It has been this way basically all of my life.  Perhaps Kennedy was the last true President and perhaps he was assasinated because he refused to be controlled.  All I know is that in the grand scheme of history us American have really fouled this situation up something bad.  Geeks, Romans, English, Persians, etc all have had a much longer run in being a world power than the United States.  Not only are we no longer the world power but slowly but surely like the Romans and English our greed is destroying us within and it is only a matter of time before there is another civil war or worst.

It is very difficult and disturbing to see but it is the puppet masters that want you to get disinfranchised with the political process.  Don't as one person still can make a difference.  Yes it is more grass roots and yes it is more issue specific but it does make a difference.  If everyone gets disinfranchised, gives up, watches their dumb box and stops educating ourselves we are all FU%KED!

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Posted: 4/25/2012 5:46:20 PM
Amen nut flopper and jesron
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Posted: 4/25/2012 5:46:23 PM
Amen nut flopper and jesron
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Posted: 4/25/2012 6:10:13 PM
nut flopper................. 
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Posted: 4/25/2012 6:11:38 PM

you crazy lefts and crazy rights are so friggin predictable with EVERY friggin POST that you type............its like a script

 

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Posted: 4/25/2012 6:33:02 PM
Caca, who are you going to vote for and why? Show us some of your original thinking......

Post like yours are also pretty predictable...... (handshake)
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Posted: 4/25/2012 7:22:18 PM
Well white trash boy....if u really want to know.....


They re all the same to me....thats why the constant battling between the left and right is amusing........ Honestly, probably wont even vote, although 1 candidate is good for my job.......even so, probably wont vote for him

Now carry on frantically googling topics in an attempt to sound educated even though its quite appearant you re a broke piece of trailer trash......
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Posted: 4/25/2012 9:01:57 PM
Lmao....

My bad Mr High horse himself ...

God forbid you throw your own opinion in the mix......

Then somebody asks for it and you turn into a little girl.....

What do you do for work?

(popcorn dude)
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Posted: 4/25/2012 9:24:28 PM
I wonder what an unpredictable post would be regarding this subject.....

I guess it's ....

I probably won't vote?.........(confused dude)
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Posted: 4/26/2012 8:14:11 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



that's what i was saying.  as pathetic and crazy as the republican party has become, obama has to be the favorite to win again in 2016.  can i get a future on that? 


don't you call yourself a republican? or a conservative or something like that? Why do you feel you have become so pathetic and crazy? Was it because you not only voted for Obama, but poured money into his campaign?
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Posted: 4/26/2012 10:14:21 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by be easy:



don't you call yourself a republican? or a conservative or something like that? Why do you feel you have become so pathetic and crazy? Was it because you not only voted for Obama, but poured money into his campaign?


as to the first question- negative.

as to the second question- yes, something like that, but it depends on the particular issue. 

as to the third- if by "you" you mean republican, see the answer to question #1.  if by "you", you mean me, then the fact that i voted for and gave money to obama has no effect on my psyche or persona.  i gave money because it was the most practical decision for my job, which i no longer have.  i voted for him because he was the better of the two options in my opinion. 

the following equation sums up my position on why i often side with democrats over republicans, then and now, if i had to make a choice, which i don't:

D = R - RC

D = Democrat
R = Republican
RC = Religious Crazy

anything i can continue to do to correct your misunderstandings, i trust you'll let me know.




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Posted: 4/26/2012 11:01:36 AM
ok, so you're not a republican, does that make you a democrat?  But you are a conservative, sometimes? i don't much understand the labels people place on themselves and others these days, they have no true meaning,,,,,,people seem to pick their favorite labels in the same manner they pick their favorite colours, with their box's

just to clarify something in your post, by "religious crazy", you mean Christian, correct? Because i don't know that i've ever heard you, or any of the other people that always tend to side with the state (in actions, not necessarily in words), EVER criticize any religion other than Christianity. I mean, we live amongst a variety of religions, that do many different things, yet, at least here on covers, the only one that your ilk (obama voters) ever seem to criticize is Christians

Now i can understand why you would refrain from poking fun at the silly, odd smelling person, and all of their goofy garbage that they do, like dress weird, bypass laundry to save some money, grow out their sideburns into curly q's, send a holy representative to the food factorys to say a prayer and bless the food to make it kosher (and we won't even get into all the 0.01% mega wealthy, politically connected, media controlling person, because we know covers doesn't allow that type of criticizm)

Why do you only see the R's as the "Religious Crazy"? Our resident D lemming, is as much a religious crazy as they come (dj). 

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Religion is a collection of cultural systems, belief systems, and worldviews that establishes symbols that relate humanity to spirituality and, sometimes, to moral values.[1] Many religions have narratives, symbols, traditions and sacred histories that are intended to give meaning to life or to explain the origin of life or the universe. They tend to derive morality, ethics, religious laws or a preferred lifestyle from their ideas about the cosmos and human nature.


religions come in different shapes and sizes. From outside of the two party system, it seems to me that the D's have their own brand of religious following, just disguised under a different system, where The State is the all knowing arbitor of moral justice, and that is what they worship as god. The convoluted crap that passes as Science, they all seem to worship, unquestioning.

I'd love to hear the horror stories of you Christian haters, that led you to the stance you take today,,,,cannot wrap my head around where all the hate is derived

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Posted: 4/26/2012 11:34:40 AM
just to clarify something in your post, by "religious crazy", you mean Christian, correct?


no.  now, there are some among the increasing Church of ClubDirt masses who do believe that, but i am not among them.  i've said that i have no problem with anyone who practices any particular religion as long as they don't use it to discriminate, hate or try to tell people their god/religion is better than any other god/religion. 

some of the best and most considerate posters on here are christians. 

my definition of religious crazy are those who use their religion to hate, discriminate, put down others, tell people how to live their lvies when they aren't hurting anyone else, try to inflate their own sense of importance, and do other negative garbage.  if you can prove your god, 1. exists and 2. is better than any other god, than that's fine, we should all listen and fall in line.  but until then, people who do what i describe above fall into the ClubDirt definition of religious crazy.

in the political arena, there is a lot more of that on the R side than the D side and as much as i dislike both sides, i really want nothing to do with the religious crazy/santorum component.  i find their religious crazy more distasteful than the democrats' brand of manipulation and imperception.  i guess it's just a matter of personal preference.

now, beyond covers and politics, i focus on christians because that's where i see most of this occurring.  note also that i live in the south where it seems to be more prevalent.  if i lived in the middle east, i'd probably be calling out the person.  if i lived in israel, i'd be saying garbage about muslims.  and so on.  but here, it seems like i can't read much or see much without some crazy christians trying to tell other people how to live or denigrating some other group based on their god, bible or whatever.

now, to say i hate christians is, again, incorrect.  i could give a darn what religion anyone is.  i'm perfectly happy not knowing what religion anyone is or knowing their religion as long as they don't use it negatively.  my hate is towards people who discriminate and try to inflate their own self-importance by bringing down others.  i'm fine with that being the basis from which hate is derived towards anyone as long as you understand that i have no issue whatsoever with any person just by virtue of the fact that he/she is a christian or any other religion. 
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i focus on christians because that's where i see most of this occurring.  note also that i live in the south where it seems to be more prevalent.

do you think that this is because you go looking for it?

I don't spend much if any time or energy on religions, myself. However, i live amongst a group of people (the amish) that are a sect of Christianity, stuck in early 19th century way of life, and it sure as hell seems to work pretty well for them. Now, i know most poke fun at them for their way of life, and i'm certain there's plenty of scab type folk that would make a case to force them to act more like "normal" folk do, but i guess that i see what i see with that brand of religion, which is why i can't wrap my head around all the hate towards Christians

I guess i don't see what you see, because i don't go looking for it, i don't know, but you are right, to each their own. Personally, i've never had a crazy right wing christian tell me how i should be living my life, however, the Statist people and their religion want to interfere with everything everywhere all the time, they do invade my house, they invade my body and my mind, they want to tell me what i can and cannot do, and they put me in a cage because i wouldn't listen. They desecrated the most sacred, my house, and have stolen and abused me and mine, so i guess it's just a matter of which side of the profiteering from all that, we fall on
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Posted: 4/26/2012 12:21:44 PM

do you think that this is because you go looking for it?

to some degree, i would say that's true.  but it didn't start that way.  but it's hard to escape it here.  it seems like a weekly event in local politics where some politician does something stupid or pulls some statist bullshit that benefits only them at the expense of everyone else only after telling everyone how they prayed about it so that makes it ok.  and then you see what they talk about on a national level.  i guess the answer is to turn it all off but i'm not there yet.

we have to have some of the most hardcore sheriffs and head prosecutors anywhere here who have no problem desecrating people's homes, bodies, etc.  but they can't shut up about how they pray about it and pray with the victims and go to church on sundays so it must be ok.  nevermind people's rights and the constitution.  what the darn do those things have to do with praying about garbage to justify it.   it's everywhere here. 

it's
1. God (i.e. my politics and my career)
2. Family (i.e. me)
3. Country (i.e. my politics and my career)

i'm familiar with the amish.  i have a relative who lives in the middle of amish country and i've visited several times.  i wouldn't want to live that way and i'm sure if we all sat down and discussed various topics, we'd rarely agree.  however, i have nothing but respect for them.  they live how they want and work hard and nothing about what they do or think bothers or negatively affects me in any way. 
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Posted: 4/26/2012 4:58:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

 


i'm familiar with the amish.  i have a relative who lives in the middle of amish country and i've visited several times.  i wouldn't want to live that way and i'm sure if we all sat down and discussed various topics, we'd rarely agree.  however, i have nothing but respect for them.  they live how they want and work hard and nothing about what they do or think bothers or negatively affects me in any way. 

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Posted: 4/26/2012 5:32:46 PM
besides, what do the muslims ever do that's fucked up? 
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Posted: 4/26/2012 5:52:26 PM
I never voted for him in the first place.  I was a little smarter than that. 
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Posted: 4/26/2012 5:53:27 PM
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Originally Posted by OBI:

Again?

 

This

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Posted: 4/26/2012 6:30:00 PM
If you voted for Obama in 08 to prove you aren't racist, you better vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not stupid
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Posted: 4/26/2012 6:44:50 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by be easy:

If you voted for Obama in 08 to prove you aren't racist, you better vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not stupid


Just prove you're not a dumbass by listening to sentiment like this
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Posted: 4/26/2012 7:36:49 PM
Since the day the guy was elected the opposition has done all it can to frustrate everything the guy has sought. I think it's dishonest to block his legislative proposals at every turn then claim that he's a Socialist responsible for ruining the economy, ruining the value of peoples homes, pensions, savings, the reason they lost their jobs or can't find one and (of course) single-handedly responsible for 15 trillion dollars in national debt. 

Romney knows Goddamn good and well that if he tries to starve Americans out by cutting programs and reducing government services and benefits (like Medicaid and Social Security) that there will be riots in our streets just like in Europe. Add to that the title of newest worse President ever. 

I will be voting for Obama but I just hope the guy runs against Congress because with the mix we have now there will continue to be gridlock and frustration.


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Posted: 4/26/2012 7:53:21 PM
y0...


whoever voted for Nixon
whoever voted for Carter
whoever voted for Reagan
whoever voted for Bush Sr.
whoever voted for Clinton twice
whoever voted for Bush Jr. twice 
whoever votes for Obama twice



conclusion y0.....



whoever votes gets y0




seems to be pattern of puppets being elected in y0...oops, I mean selected in y0....


have fun bitching about the next person in the white house y0...because this is none stop bullshit being recycled over and over again y0...it's like groundhogs day every fk'n election season y0.



whatever y0 



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