The 23-3 score in last week's Stoney Brook @ Army 23-3 game was somewhat misleading. Army coughed the ball up twice inside the 10 yard line, and gave it up on downs inside the 10 on another occasion. I bring that to people's attention because Army's offense had performed pretty well the two previous games scoring 40 (6 TDs) against Northern Illinois, and 37 (5 TDs) against Wake Forest. Defensively Army has surrendered over 40 points to every FBS team they've faced this season, and I think this week's opponent Boston College will eclipse the 40-point mark as well. Therefore, if Army can be trusted to find the end zone 3 times (and I think they will), the total should go north of 58.5.
Army's starting CB (senior Josh Jackson) and starting DE (junior Holt Zalneraitis) are out for the Boston College game. Starting center (sophomore Ryan Powis) is questionable.
BC's offensive line versus Army's defensive front is a size mismatch. BC's offensive line averages 306 lbs. Zalneraitis' replacement (freshman T.J. Atimalala) is 5'11" and 260 lbs. Army will also struggle to match-up with BC's 6-foot-6, 265-pound sophomore tight end C.J. Parsons.
Army's kicker Daniel Grochowski is horrible. He's only kicked two short field goals this season, and is 7 of 9 on extra points. That's why Army will periodically attempt 2-point conversions at unconventional times.
BC's defense has been somewhat porus this season, and they have zero experience defending the triple option. I look for Army to bounce back this week and play BC tough at home. I see BC winning this game by a score of something like 45-35. I like this game to go over the 58.5 total.
The 23-3 score in last week's Stoney Brook @ Army 23-3 game was somewhat misleading. Army coughed the ball up twice inside the 10 yard line, and gave it up on downs inside the 10 on another occasion. I bring that to people's attention because Army's offense had performed pretty well the two previous games scoring 40 (6 TDs) against Northern Illinois, and 37 (5 TDs) against Wake Forest. Defensively Army has surrendered over 40 points to every FBS team they've faced this season, and I think this week's opponent Boston College will eclipse the 40-point mark as well. Therefore, if Army can be trusted to find the end zone 3 times (and I think they will), the total should go north of 58.5.
Army's starting CB (senior Josh Jackson) and starting DE (junior Holt Zalneraitis) are out for the Boston College game. Starting center (sophomore Ryan Powis) is questionable.
BC's offensive line versus Army's defensive front is a size mismatch. BC's offensive line averages 306 lbs. Zalneraitis' replacement (freshman T.J. Atimalala) is 5'11" and 260 lbs. Army will also struggle to match-up with BC's 6-foot-6, 265-pound sophomore tight end C.J. Parsons.
Army's kicker Daniel Grochowski is horrible. He's only kicked two short field goals this season, and is 7 of 9 on extra points. That's why Army will periodically attempt 2-point conversions at unconventional times.
BC's defense has been somewhat porus this season, and they have zero experience defending the triple option. I look for Army to bounce back this week and play BC tough at home. I see BC winning this game by a score of something like 45-35. I like this game to go over the 58.5 total.
sure looks like an over play to me. both teams have been productive offensively this year (minus the stoney brook debacle). i watched the Clemson / BC game and their defense was pretty awful especially against the pass. Army obviously a different animal here though... Army being running team with clock rolling is a concern though...
sure looks like an over play to me. both teams have been productive offensively this year (minus the stoney brook debacle). i watched the Clemson / BC game and their defense was pretty awful especially against the pass. Army obviously a different animal here though... Army being running team with clock rolling is a concern though...
I'm actually on the other side, quite large at that. The main reason is that I think Army is absolutley dreadful and that BC is actually decent. BC should completely control this game from start to finish and will pile up tons of yards on the ground. Army can't throw what-so-ever so they will continue to run it all game long. If for some reason, Army hangs tough, then they'll more than likely have very long, sustained drives with many 3rd and short conversions. That's doubtful to happen but the game is at home so that helps. GL
I'm actually on the other side, quite large at that. The main reason is that I think Army is absolutley dreadful and that BC is actually decent. BC should completely control this game from start to finish and will pile up tons of yards on the ground. Army can't throw what-so-ever so they will continue to run it all game long. If for some reason, Army hangs tough, then they'll more than likely have very long, sustained drives with many 3rd and short conversions. That's doubtful to happen but the game is at home so that helps. GL
sure looks like an over play to me. both teams have been productive offensively this year (minus the stoney brook debacle). i watched the Clemson / BC game and their defense was pretty awful especially against the pass. Army obviously a different animal here though... Army being running team with clock rolling is a concern though...
The big concern with a team like Army is that they will drive the field and then come up empty by turning it over on downs, fumbling, or missing a field goal. All of those are quite possible with Army.
This game sets up nicely for BC in that they have zero experience defending the triple option, but this game will provide excellent practice for their game against Georgia Tech on October 20th. It should help them in that game quite a bit. As for now, I think they will struggle to stop Army (assuming the Black Knights don't repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot). I think Army should definitely find the end zone 4 times, and that should be more than enough to get this over 58.5.
I think last week's performance against Stoney Brook is keeping this total artificially low.
sure looks like an over play to me. both teams have been productive offensively this year (minus the stoney brook debacle). i watched the Clemson / BC game and their defense was pretty awful especially against the pass. Army obviously a different animal here though... Army being running team with clock rolling is a concern though...
The big concern with a team like Army is that they will drive the field and then come up empty by turning it over on downs, fumbling, or missing a field goal. All of those are quite possible with Army.
This game sets up nicely for BC in that they have zero experience defending the triple option, but this game will provide excellent practice for their game against Georgia Tech on October 20th. It should help them in that game quite a bit. As for now, I think they will struggle to stop Army (assuming the Black Knights don't repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot). I think Army should definitely find the end zone 4 times, and that should be more than enough to get this over 58.5.
I think last week's performance against Stoney Brook is keeping this total artificially low.
if Army can score ~40 against WF and NIU, they should be able to get into the 20's against BC right?
BC should easily get into the 30's...
what do you think of S. Car game under? I think spurrier is going to want to try to slow the game down with Lattimore and control the clock... sounds like both offenses weakness is their O-Line which has me thinking defenses should be able to make some stops...
if Army can score ~40 against WF and NIU, they should be able to get into the 20's against BC right?
BC should easily get into the 30's...
what do you think of S. Car game under? I think spurrier is going to want to try to slow the game down with Lattimore and control the clock... sounds like both offenses weakness is their O-Line which has me thinking defenses should be able to make some stops...
I have not seen either of these teams play this season, but I will try to watch the Clemson/BC game when I have a chance.
well... what can i say ... yes BC deffense looks porous VS Clemson ultra-high powered offense --- you just need to watch the FSU game ... and FSU deffense is supposedly top notch , so with that in mind .. BC played Clemson really close ... actually the only thing that might concnern you is the letdown spot... how will BC will be up by armed forces WORST army team..when they have FSU on deck ....
I have not seen either of these teams play this season, but I will try to watch the Clemson/BC game when I have a chance.
well... what can i say ... yes BC deffense looks porous VS Clemson ultra-high powered offense --- you just need to watch the FSU game ... and FSU deffense is supposedly top notch , so with that in mind .. BC played Clemson really close ... actually the only thing that might concnern you is the letdown spot... how will BC will be up by armed forces WORST army team..when they have FSU on deck ....
well... what can i say ... yes BC deffense looks porous VS Clemson ultra-high powered offense --- you just need to watch the FSU game ... and FSU deffense is supposedly top notch , so with that in mind .. BC played Clemson really close ... actually the only thing that might concnern you is the letdown spot... how will BC will be up by armed forces WORST army team..when they have FSU on deck ....
Good point Shark!!!
The FSU look-ahead is legitimate concern. After all, how much time is BC really going to dedicate to learning how to stop the triple option this week??? I think definitely think Army will score a good bit here. That's why I shy away from laying the road chalk here, even though I think there is a great chance BC covers the 10.5.
Weather is also something that needs to be considered here.
well... what can i say ... yes BC deffense looks porous VS Clemson ultra-high powered offense --- you just need to watch the FSU game ... and FSU deffense is supposedly top notch , so with that in mind .. BC played Clemson really close ... actually the only thing that might concnern you is the letdown spot... how will BC will be up by armed forces WORST army team..when they have FSU on deck ....
Good point Shark!!!
The FSU look-ahead is legitimate concern. After all, how much time is BC really going to dedicate to learning how to stop the triple option this week??? I think definitely think Army will score a good bit here. That's why I shy away from laying the road chalk here, even though I think there is a great chance BC covers the 10.5.
Weather is also something that needs to be considered here.
Spaziani is going to have BC's defense raring to go for this one. Gotta figure he's tired of them getting thrashed and I'm sure the focus in practice this week will be defending the option.
Top QB in the ACC will feast on Army's young defense. 49-10 BC.
Spaziani is going to have BC's defense raring to go for this one. Gotta figure he's tired of them getting thrashed and I'm sure the focus in practice this week will be defending the option.
Top QB in the ACC will feast on Army's young defense. 49-10 BC.
Army will have some success offensively at home.. i read an article and quotes from their coach and it sounds like BC is going to get Army's 'A' game on Saturday (whatever that is). I'm thinking army can at least get in the 20's.
Army will have some success offensively at home.. i read an article and quotes from their coach and it sounds like BC is going to get Army's 'A' game on Saturday (whatever that is). I'm thinking army can at least get in the 20's.
I thought this was a easy play and already took BC -10 but taking a 2nd look, I'm pretty sure the lost to Stoney Brook will have the Army coach/players fired up for this game coupled with the look ahead to FSU, and now the early line moving Armies way to -9.5. I was thinking this line is too good to be true, and you know how that goes.
I thought this was a easy play and already took BC -10 but taking a 2nd look, I'm pretty sure the lost to Stoney Brook will have the Army coach/players fired up for this game coupled with the look ahead to FSU, and now the early line moving Armies way to -9.5. I was thinking this line is too good to be true, and you know how that goes.
I thought this was a easy play and already took BC -10 but taking a 2nd look, I'm pretty sure the lost to Stoney Brook will have the Army coach/players fired up for this game coupled with the look ahead to FSU, and now the early line moving Armies way to -9.5. I was thinking this line is too good to be true, and you know how that goes.
I don't think BC -10 is necessarily a bad bet. I certainly wouldn't have the nads to bet it the other way. Initially BC stuck out to me as well, but the more I looked at it, the more the over made sense to me.
I have no idea when the last time BC played a triple option team, but suffice to say no one on the current roster was around to see it. I think the last time they play Georgia Tech the Yellow Jackets weren't running the triple option yet (could be wrong on that point). Nevertheless you catch my drift. The point is you don't become proficient at defending the triple option in one week.
Northern Illinois is a team that is very comparable to BC, and that game was essentially a 6 TD to 6 TD tie. The only reason NIU won is because Army failed to convert on three point-after attempts.
From what I can see, all signs point to both teams being able to score a substantial amount of points in this game. I really don't how this game doesn't go over.
I thought this was a easy play and already took BC -10 but taking a 2nd look, I'm pretty sure the lost to Stoney Brook will have the Army coach/players fired up for this game coupled with the look ahead to FSU, and now the early line moving Armies way to -9.5. I was thinking this line is too good to be true, and you know how that goes.
I don't think BC -10 is necessarily a bad bet. I certainly wouldn't have the nads to bet it the other way. Initially BC stuck out to me as well, but the more I looked at it, the more the over made sense to me.
I have no idea when the last time BC played a triple option team, but suffice to say no one on the current roster was around to see it. I think the last time they play Georgia Tech the Yellow Jackets weren't running the triple option yet (could be wrong on that point). Nevertheless you catch my drift. The point is you don't become proficient at defending the triple option in one week.
Northern Illinois is a team that is very comparable to BC, and that game was essentially a 6 TD to 6 TD tie. The only reason NIU won is because Army failed to convert on three point-after attempts.
From what I can see, all signs point to both teams being able to score a substantial amount of points in this game. I really don't how this game doesn't go over.
jimmy i follow bc and over is the only play to make. We have a new offensive coordinator this year and he really open the playbook with deep passing game. I'm on over myself best of luck this week always a read
jimmy i follow bc and over is the only play to make. We have a new offensive coordinator this year and he really open the playbook with deep passing game. I'm on over myself best of luck this week always a read
i think you are dead on about the line being set articially low as a result of the SB debacle. Sharp play. like you pointed out though, long army drives that result in nada will be quite painful.
i think you are dead on about the line being set articially low as a result of the SB debacle. Sharp play. like you pointed out though, long army drives that result in nada will be quite painful.
jimmy i follow bc and over is the only play to make. We have a new offensive coordinator this year and he really open the playbook with deep passing game. I'm on over myself best of luck this week always a read
I realize you said over "is the only play to make," but what are your thoughts on the side shakey???
jimmy i follow bc and over is the only play to make. We have a new offensive coordinator this year and he really open the playbook with deep passing game. I'm on over myself best of luck this week always a read
I realize you said over "is the only play to make," but what are your thoughts on the side shakey???
Jimmy honestly no opinion on the side i would lean bc - anything less then 10 bc is not a team I would ever want to lay dd on the road schedule was loss to miami at home loss to nw on the road beat Maine at home loss vs Clemson if it were 2 td's probably be on army hope that helps
Jimmy honestly no opinion on the side i would lean bc - anything less then 10 bc is not a team I would ever want to lay dd on the road schedule was loss to miami at home loss to nw on the road beat Maine at home loss vs Clemson if it were 2 td's probably be on army hope that helps
Jimmy honestly no opinion on the side i would lean bc - anything less then 10 bc is not a team I would ever want to lay dd on the road schedule was loss to miami at home loss to nw on the road beat Maine at home loss vs Clemson if it were 2 td's probably be on army hope that helps
Jimmy honestly no opinion on the side i would lean bc - anything less then 10 bc is not a team I would ever want to lay dd on the road schedule was loss to miami at home loss to nw on the road beat Maine at home loss vs Clemson if it were 2 td's probably be on army hope that helps
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