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NHL Conference Final INSIGHT

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Posted: 5/16/2018 3:49:35 AM

As much as hockey is a true sport is as much as the NHL is a true "sports entertainment complex".

- Take a deep breath and try to absorb that ideology...

(No different from NFL / NBA / MLB... All sports Entertainment Complexes in their own right)

[No different from govt. & high-level corporations]

{It's all the same...Just follow the money~~~}

 

...I don't want to get ahead of myself or create confusion.

Let's stick with the topic at hand and think this through here together.

What makes the most sense here along those lines ?

 

WIN / WAS ? 

WIN / TB ?

 

- Either of those combinations (by virtue of proximity)

will isolate half the fan base (if not more)

and minimize profit for the elite entity.

 

VEG / TB ?

 

- Still no good for fan base (by virtue of proximity).

All teams in deep south.

 

What always works best for this multi-billion dollar industry 

(more powerful than any govt on the face of the earth)

is bringing money in from all corners of the world,

by creating a wedge between locations...

 

North vs South

East vs. West

 

It's of no use to any major sports league having 2 teams

from the same quadrant battle it out for supremecy.

 

(maybe some exceptions might apply like if the MLB NYY/NYM both had incredible seasons,

and met, or same for MLB CHC/CWS for example...?) [etc., etc.]

Fine.

But this isn't the case.

 

NO.

 

VEG / WAS works best.

 

That is my pic.

That is how I see it working out.

 

I guess we'll see ?!

 

VEG wins

WAS wins

 

That's how I see it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted: 5/16/2018 6:52:36 AM

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Posted: 5/16/2018 9:20:52 AM
Back in round one when repeat offender Tom Wilson was allowed to launch himself at the skull of Columbus defenceman Wennberg and concuss him, knocking him out of that playoff series and receive no discipline, while all world defenceman Drew Doughty with zero history of transgressions leaned into a Vegas Knights player and immediately received a suspension, the NHL put anyone with common sense on notice that they were going to help and protect both the Knights and Caps during these playoffs. They have certainly done both in the games/series that have followed.
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Posted: 5/16/2018 10:24:51 AM
For me the location doesn't matter. I'm in NJ, and I didn't care at all about the Penguins (actually root against them) being in it the last two years. I also don't care when teams that are expected to be in the finals are in the finals. I want to see underdogs or new teams (that haven't been in the finals recently) playing for the cup. So basically anyone but the Lightning.
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Posted: 5/16/2018 11:03:39 AM
Yup agree, Caps/Knights Cup Series. 

Here are my thoughts...
White= purity, virginity...not scoring this year Jets. 
Lightning never strikes the same place twice  

Caps> DC>Trump>Legalization of Ganja and Sports Betting 

Knights> Deadliest mass shooting in the US> Win one for the city??? Raiders moving in = Vegas Knights $$$

Knights/Caps just makes complete sense.


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Posted: 5/16/2018 11:05:58 AM

im hoping this is true. I too think Washington in the finals is a much better story. We've all seen the lightning already. The Cinderella story is either vegas or jets vs washington. 3 teams that have never held the cup. I personally would love to see capitals finally win one.

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Posted: 5/16/2018 2:17:40 PM
Yeah I mean that Eagles/Patriots Super Bowl was a real drag...

Such dumbass "logic".

Ps.  Wennberg isn't a defenceman to the poster who said that.
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Posted: 5/17/2018 11:58:09 PM

Thanx for piping in gentlemen, your comments were appreciated as either valid or humourous (or both).

I'll address each one of you in order of your replies.

 

OLAP > Thanx for the confirmation of agreement.

 

Polar_Bear >

I've seen you around and respect your opinions. Saw the hit you referred to 1st hand and countless times more in the highlight reels. Wasn't sure what to make of it initially. (clean or dirty). At 1st looked clean plus no penalty called and several analysts commented during the following intermission as being clean, but after I reveiwed it further, I saw for myself that Wilson left his feet and launched himself. Gotta admit, as a fan, it was a "rock'em-sock'em robots type hit that made me immediately take notice and gave thrill. I had to wonder if it was purposefully intentional in that I question if there was enought time to hold off...?

Obviously he received a delayed reprisal by the league that it was an illegal hit. Me... I'm still not certain it was intentional, but I do agree witg you that they are trying hard to protect all the players but in the back of my mind more so on WAS & VEG.      (Hell, WAS had 3 PP in a row in the 1stP in tonight's game (05/17/018)

I'm not around much but I will make a point of checking in on your posts. Regards!

 

AjMay >

I too am so sick & tired of "all the usual suspects" lol. Hate PIT (as much as I love "The Kid") [being a CDN myself].               Don't much like TB either, pissed off Stamkos was too 'high & mighty' to accept a very generous off by TOR. as he wanted to be on a winning team. Well guess what SStamkos, The Leafs could have been that team with you, now I hope you grow old in TB and retire in FLA without winning a single thing.

This run-on conveyerbelt of all high-profile major league teams repeatitively winning is making me nautious. (CUE NFL NE here...) and yes, I'd love a change too. I can't bear a fourth year of NBA final w GS & CLE...

 

LB_Dirtbags > Funny stuff. Always like humour and bizarre concepts. I bet The Raiders will do well in Vegas. 

 

BleedingCrypto > The fact your name implies a diverse monetary system, means you think well outside the box. It's Ovi's year.

 

dcp1985 >

The 017/018 StuporBlow (as I like to call it each year) was actually one of the better ones and I was overjoyed that NE lost.

The geographical aspect was incongruent to my construct but there are always exceptions to the rule and by no means should logic dictate sports pix.

 

Cheerz all, 

LANDSHARK!

 

 

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Posted: 5/18/2018 12:21:23 AM

For the record and to review my initial post:

 

As a CDN, I uber love WIN. They are a phenomenal team w great poise & talent. It would sem logical for them to win here & all.   But there is no place for logic in sports wagering ! Ad I mentioned earlier, the league (which is a sports entertainment complex), is all about maxxing out on profits and there is less profit to be had if WIN wins...

On the other hand, Vegas is not only pivotally located to ensure  wider fan base, they are also the "dream-team" comprised of a bunch of nobodies that no one gave a 2nd thought to, until now that is.

How much more of a story would it be for VEG to win and go to the cup ? Even if they lose in the final, everyone will say they were never expected to get that far in the 1st place.

Plus the league for some reason hates having any CDN team in the finals. 1993 was the last time that happened. So as much as I love WIN (and don't get me wrong, really like VEG too. Wish they both weren't in the same conference and matchup up for the final...*Sigh

 

As far as WAS/TB , I said it before and I'll say it again - This is OVI's year. Yeas WAS lost tonight snd lost both home games after taking both in TB, but I never said this was going to be some kind of an easy street for either. Both will likely get down to nitty-gritty G#7's but I do believe (and I could easily be wrong [not God here]) that this is how it will go and eventually end.

If I'm wrong, don't make me stoopid. I just see things happening this way.

 

WAS/VEG final. Only time will tell...

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Posted: 5/18/2018 12:24:36 AM

*apologize for all the spelling mistakes. I'm not illiterate, just rushed for time. I figure you'll get the gist of what I'm saying overall

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Posted: 5/18/2018 12:43:35 AM

BTW, "Overs" seem to be the trend here. I don't play such contingents much, but ya gotta wonder when that changes.                All 4 teams have incredible goal-tending and solid defences, yet the scoring just manages to keep erupting...?!

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Posted: 5/18/2018 2:41:14 AM

In the meanwhile between taking the time here to update and follow-up on my commentry, I've reviewed many other threads.     I found one that blames Backstrom's return for WAS loss in G#4.

I took partial interest to this view and decided to spend a small quantity of my valuable time sorting through it.                    Posted elsewhere, copied and pasted here for relevancy:

As stated; Commentater's view was (WAS) Backstrom's return [from 4 game injury] was detrimental. Here is my reply:

I admit that I was not aware of his return until gametime. That said, half of me thought it was a bonus. The other half thought it might be a problem. Not blaming him for WAS loss tonight, just sayin they were doing fine w/o him.

Whatever, it's just 1 game. Maybe his return proves to be influential overall. Maybe detrimental...?

For what it's worth, from a humble spectator / observer, I feel it's unfair to put that kind of weight around his neck.

He has generally been a quality player all these years. Might I suggest you give him a little bit of leeway to catch his breath ? 

I think the news story here is how OVI turned over from being a little Diva girl into a more real and serious player.

I see from reading many posts here, how easy it is to keep thinking of him as "Alice". I get it. Believe me I get it. (I hated him all these years for exactly that). But things have changed. At least I think they have. And believe me, I'm no push-over. Actions speak louder than words. He's passing more, making better decisions on if, when and where to pass to, as well as being a better team leader. I see a change.

I'm not demanding or asking for anyone to agree with my views. I can only say it would be in everyone's general interest to at least just consider the angle I supposition.

For what it's worth, I have endlessy witnessed his facial contortions via camera closeups constantly throughout countless games throughout his career. No one player ever comes close in matching that instensity over that extent of time.

This guy always wants to win. Now he wants to win bad ! 

He was always trying to do it the wrong way though and that's why he never did.

I think he's figured it all out now. I think he's put the elusive jig-saw pieces in place and is about to solve the puzzle.

I took a lot of time here commenting in response to your post and I like what I've said. It fits in with the philosophy of my thread and I will copy and repost there. Again, just my humble opinion and trust I've made sense with it.

 

But let me take this an extra step further in to the deep dark regions. 

As a TOR Leaf fan, WAS is no fav of mine.

As a 'Cold-war', 'Baby-Boomer', 'Westerner.'..Russians not on my hit parade. (WAS full of them)

As an observer of recent Olympic history, Russia has been cheating.

Now I'm going to go zenith:

Whatever you want to call it; Russia, Soviet Union, CCCP,...

That geographical area (as a collective and within recent time) is responsible for the most human attrocities associated as a one, ever known to mankiind and cleary not to be trusted. which is why I don't.

That's not to say others of all sorts compete for that tiltle, but they do win on all fronts.

So for me to say, that I believe there is a possibility for a group of individuals from that category to change things around,      says a lot ! It's not the place. It's not the politics. It's the people. It's the everyday people grown from such cataclysmic hardship to endure.

Alexander Ovechkin is one of those people.

I don't say this lightly. Thanks for letting me express myself. I hope & trust you take this philosophy in the way I've intended.

 

 

 

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Posted: 5/18/2018 9:52:50 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by dcp1985:

Yeah I mean that Eagles/Patriots Super Bowl was a real drag...

Such dumbass "logic".

Ps.  Wennberg isn't a defenceman to the poster who said that.
I think that was me and yes just an error on my part, I meant to say he was hit in the defensive zone, I do realize he is a Centreman, my bad
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Posted: 5/18/2018 11:47:17 AM

24 years or so since Stanley cup won by canadian team. Does canada not mean garbage to the league. You're going to help a team from las Vegas in their first year win a cup and screw canada for a 25th year. If that's what's going on screw the NHL and bettman

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Posted: 5/19/2018 8:48:28 AM

oilers4eva >

Hello my fellow CDN. Thanx for feeling my and everyone in this hockey loving country's pain.                                                      I think the evidence speaks for itself! (what ?! you gonna give up hockey now that you know this ?!) lol                                            It's in our blood it's in our souls and Bettman knows we are such sap-suckers, we will watch it even if we're not in it                  but the Americans won't...Hence it is the way it is.

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Posted: 5/19/2018 8:55:45 AM

I feel like a traitor saying this (and reminding you of the huge hard-on I have for WIN) but I got a grand on Vegas to win the semi-conference (and $400 on WAS to do the same). I can't bet with my heart & I put my money where my mouth is.              Even though I see The Jets playing better hockey overall.

Jets should & could win the next one back in The Peg on Sunday but teams rarely come back from 3-1 deficits...

The knife is in, the twisting begun.

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Posted: 5/19/2018 9:09:37 AM
Yes,I agree...but the fact is, look at the show. vegas is putting on. Mark was so obviously bleeding, but it did not matter...They will win (the Knights) but the scrappy Jets will win, one more!  It is written, it will be done...After that, they will not win, again...the cards show...
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Posted: 5/19/2018 9:12:05 AM
What I mean, friggin gary...wants too much in vegas, which means, Canadians,we are too nice, will be :after him LMAO!  yeah, right
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Posted: 5/19/2018 9:13:53 AM
We will win, once, next home game, but no more...I am crying buckets because this is what I see...
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Posted: 5/19/2018 9:17:21 AM
Keep what you have, in your bets...Whoever listened to a rook
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Posted: 5/19/2018 9:19:36 AM
The Knights have flaws...surely, I cant be the only one that sees...
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Posted: 5/19/2018 9:22:05 AM
LIKE!!! Wear them out, in the neutral...they tend to throw the puck, Alot!  Because they want to get off the ice.  okok, I will shuush...
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Posted: 5/20/2018 6:33:33 PM

For what it's worth...

Even though I had $1k VEG for series, I did believe that somehow WIN would pull through today.

I waited until early in the 3rdP to play "LIVE" W my book taking JETS $100 @+270 down only 2-1...

That (hedge)play was out of love.  Although they did get good chances, and could have won today,                                         they were out of steam overall. 

I knew it was a sketchy risk. VEG just kept control, stealing pucks, making checks, blocks and saves.

 

I guess all I was really hoping for was a little OT to extend my enjoyment quotient on this pleasant Sunday aft. of a long wknd.

Oh well.

 

I was wondering when an under would come in on this series...? I guess today was it.

 

 

 

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Posted: 5/20/2018 7:17:48 PM

Forgetting about WIN/VEG for the moment, the eastern confrence final has yet to be decided,                                                      and I'd like to comment further on that scenario...

As posted previously, I put much more weight on VEG ($1k) than WAS ($400).

Despite that monetary indifference, I have been pragmatic about this being WAS / OVI's year. (at least to vie for cup).

I have to admit, I am not so confident about that at this point.                                                                                                    Not giving up on my prognosis just yet, but am fully cognisant I may have to suck-up a full breath of fart air. lol                             Fully prepared to do so if need be.

(it's not like a $400 loss will haunt me forever, much less a day or 2...That garbage is on him [Ovi] along with a lifetime of failures)

 

It behooves me to go along these lines but I'm just looking at angles and need to add something more here...

 

Screw fairytales. I feel sorry for every little girl raised by parents who allowed them to think she would marry a prince.            That crap is as much a lie as Santa Clause, The Easter Bunny, The tooth fairy, fairy godmother, God, Jesus                   or any other holy ghost. All garbage (at least as I see it). 

BUT...                                                                                                                                                                                   BUT..., Something's in the wind here...? (Hear me out)

 

Meghan Markle, born of mixed race, with no parentel corruption, ended up marrying a prince.                                                     The VEG Knights, with no hope of going to "The Cup", are there...

What's not ot say (and tgings tend to come in 3's, that Ovi fulfills the "trifecta" ?

 

That's the question you must all ask yourselves ?

 

Could I be in another dimesion proposing such an event ? YES ! (But what if ?!)

I dunno ? Just pondering is all.

 

Thanx for listening.

 

 

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