Boston played about as bad as they could play (only Ray Allen had a decent game among the starting 8 rotation)... Orlando literally played out of their minds... best possible game you can get from Jameer Nelson and Dwight Howard... absolute best case scenario... and they still almost lost (should have), and needed the single luckiest shot i have seen in 30 years of watching the NBA (Nelson's banked 3 pointer) to win the game in OT...
Orlando has exactly as good of a chance of coming back from a 3-0 deficit as the previous 93 NBA teams that have faced that deficit...
Rondo will not have another terrible game like that, and Boston will return to form in game 5...
Not yours either. Boston wasn't that bad. Pierce was unstoppable for 3Qs The D was awesome in the 2H. Only 35 pts for ORL in the 2H. Only Rondo had problems b/c of fouls and injuries.
And Orlando wasn't that great. Vince is clueless. Nelson had a horrible game until the OT w/ the 9+ points. Howard had a great game but that was about it.
Boston played about as bad as they could play (only Ray Allen had a decent game among the starting 8 rotation)... Orlando literally played out of their minds... best possible game you can get from Jameer Nelson and Dwight Howard... absolute best case scenario... and they still almost lost (should have), and needed the single luckiest shot i have seen in 30 years of watching the NBA (Nelson's banked 3 pointer) to win the game in OT...
Orlando has exactly as good of a chance of coming back from a 3-0 deficit as the previous 93 NBA teams that have faced that deficit...
Rondo will not have another terrible game like that, and Boston will return to form in game 5...
Not yours either. Boston wasn't that bad. Pierce was unstoppable for 3Qs The D was awesome in the 2H. Only 35 pts for ORL in the 2H. Only Rondo had problems b/c of fouls and injuries.
And Orlando wasn't that great. Vince is clueless. Nelson had a horrible game until the OT w/ the 9+ points. Howard had a great game but that was about it.
Will you shut up with this david stern fixed crap? That stuff is such bullshit. If that was true and it leaked out somehow, the nba would never exist. Not true with stern
Then you will continue to fall victim to the books unless you learn the way they are thinking.
Anybody who has done this for years. Will tell you many stories of "fixed games", not that every game is. But when it comes to the playoffs - it's a different story all together.
Reference the Heat/Mavericks finals if you aren't in the loop yet.
If you really believed the NBA wasn't fixed - answer me this - why didn't Boston win last night and sweep the series????
Re-watch the last minute of reg and OT and get back to me.
Will you shut up with this david stern fixed crap? That stuff is such bullshit. If that was true and it leaked out somehow, the nba would never exist. Not true with stern
Then you will continue to fall victim to the books unless you learn the way they are thinking.
Anybody who has done this for years. Will tell you many stories of "fixed games", not that every game is. But when it comes to the playoffs - it's a different story all together.
Reference the Heat/Mavericks finals if you aren't in the loop yet.
If you really believed the NBA wasn't fixed - answer me this - why didn't Boston win last night and sweep the series????
Re-watch the last minute of reg and OT and get back to me.
Can anyone find an adjusted series price right now? I'm not seeing it. Guessing it would have to be too lopsided to release right now, but maybe I'm just missing it.
@Ice: No doubt, Boston played poorly in Game 4. But you have to agree they've been playing out of their heads for the last month. I don't think they keep that up, and I don't think Orlando will continue to play this poorly. Lewis is a better player than he's shown.
Nelson's shot was no doubt lucky, and killed my under (stupid OT).
Good question about what percentage is legitimate. I'd say that since no team has ever come back from a 0-3 deficit that a 20 percent chance would be considered legitimate. If we don find series prices, I bet we'd get better than 5/1. Let me know if anyone sees them up.
Can anyone find an adjusted series price right now? I'm not seeing it. Guessing it would have to be too lopsided to release right now, but maybe I'm just missing it.
@Ice: No doubt, Boston played poorly in Game 4. But you have to agree they've been playing out of their heads for the last month. I don't think they keep that up, and I don't think Orlando will continue to play this poorly. Lewis is a better player than he's shown.
Nelson's shot was no doubt lucky, and killed my under (stupid OT).
Good question about what percentage is legitimate. I'd say that since no team has ever come back from a 0-3 deficit that a 20 percent chance would be considered legitimate. If we don find series prices, I bet we'd get better than 5/1. Let me know if anyone sees them up.
I like the Magic too bro and was rooting for them in the East, but face reality.
Orlando wins the next game then Boston wins in 6 at the Garden... maybe 7 if Stern wants to create the hype you talking about.
Last night's game was completely botched by Boston to keep them from sweeping Orlando. How many shots hit the front of the rim in the 4th Q and OT??? Ray Allen and swish beyond the arc anytime he wants to and was used to "make things look close."
You're betting with Stern, not against him now.
This has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Ray Allen and Paul Pierce missed on purpose so they could make it look close? Get the fuck out of here.
You are making yourself look like a moron. Those shots were short because they weren't getting enough lift fro their legs in overtime when compared to the beginning of the game.
I like the Magic too bro and was rooting for them in the East, but face reality.
Orlando wins the next game then Boston wins in 6 at the Garden... maybe 7 if Stern wants to create the hype you talking about.
Last night's game was completely botched by Boston to keep them from sweeping Orlando. How many shots hit the front of the rim in the 4th Q and OT??? Ray Allen and swish beyond the arc anytime he wants to and was used to "make things look close."
You're betting with Stern, not against him now.
This has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Ray Allen and Paul Pierce missed on purpose so they could make it look close? Get the fuck out of here.
You are making yourself look like a moron. Those shots were short because they weren't getting enough lift fro their legs in overtime when compared to the beginning of the game.
Can anyone find an adjusted series price right now? I'm not seeing it. Guessing it would have to be too lopsided to release right now, but maybe I'm just missing it.
@Ice: No doubt, Boston played poorly in Game 4. But you have to agree they've been playing out of their heads for the last month. I don't think they keep that up, and I don't think Orlando will continue to play this poorly. Lewis is a better player than he's shown.
Nelson's shot was no doubt lucky, and killed my under (stupid OT).
Good question about what percentage is legitimate. I'd say that since no team has ever come back from a 0-3 deficit that a 20 percent chance would be considered legitimate. If we don find series prices, I bet we'd get better than 5/1. Let me know if anyone sees them up.
Peace ... DP
current odds to win the title had Orlando at 15:1, Boston at 9:5, LA at 4:7 and Phoenix at 15:1...
i don't feel like doing that math right now, but with those odds you should be able to estimate the series odds...
based on where they have sit the line for this game, i calculated the TRUE ODDS (meaning the odds based on the MLs for each of the last 3 games) on this series to be Bos (-600), at this point... so i would guess you will be getting something like (+550) for Orlando or (-650) for Boston...
Can anyone find an adjusted series price right now? I'm not seeing it. Guessing it would have to be too lopsided to release right now, but maybe I'm just missing it.
@Ice: No doubt, Boston played poorly in Game 4. But you have to agree they've been playing out of their heads for the last month. I don't think they keep that up, and I don't think Orlando will continue to play this poorly. Lewis is a better player than he's shown.
Nelson's shot was no doubt lucky, and killed my under (stupid OT).
Good question about what percentage is legitimate. I'd say that since no team has ever come back from a 0-3 deficit that a 20 percent chance would be considered legitimate. If we don find series prices, I bet we'd get better than 5/1. Let me know if anyone sees them up.
Peace ... DP
current odds to win the title had Orlando at 15:1, Boston at 9:5, LA at 4:7 and Phoenix at 15:1...
i don't feel like doing that math right now, but with those odds you should be able to estimate the series odds...
based on where they have sit the line for this game, i calculated the TRUE ODDS (meaning the odds based on the MLs for each of the last 3 games) on this series to be Bos (-600), at this point... so i would guess you will be getting something like (+550) for Orlando or (-650) for Boston...
Then you will continue to fall victim to the books unless you learn the way they are thinking.
Anybody who has done this for years. Will tell you many stories of "fixed games", not that every game is. But when it comes to the playoffs - it's a different story all together.
Reference the Heat/Mavericks finals if you aren't in the loop yet.
If you really believed the NBA wasn't fixed - answer me this - why didn't Boston win last night and sweep the series????
Re-watch the last minute of reg and OT and get back to me.
You tell me. You say Stern wants them in the finals. Are you saying the Celtics lost on purpose because they don't want to be in the finals?
I understand that you are trying to argue that some games are fixed by officials, but you are saying that Boston lost on purpose and that Stern wants Boston in the finals. It doesn't make sense at all.
Then you will continue to fall victim to the books unless you learn the way they are thinking.
Anybody who has done this for years. Will tell you many stories of "fixed games", not that every game is. But when it comes to the playoffs - it's a different story all together.
Reference the Heat/Mavericks finals if you aren't in the loop yet.
If you really believed the NBA wasn't fixed - answer me this - why didn't Boston win last night and sweep the series????
Re-watch the last minute of reg and OT and get back to me.
You tell me. You say Stern wants them in the finals. Are you saying the Celtics lost on purpose because they don't want to be in the finals?
I understand that you are trying to argue that some games are fixed by officials, but you are saying that Boston lost on purpose and that Stern wants Boston in the finals. It doesn't make sense at all.
This has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Ray Allen and Paul Pierce missed on purpose so they could make it look close? Get the fuck out of here.
You are making yourself look like a moron. Those shots were short because they weren't getting enough lift fro their legs in overtime when compared to the beginning of the game.
That statement is correct.
Watch the replay...
If you don't understand me than you and I are on a different level.
Did you see those 2 Three's Allen made nothing but net??? He can make the shot with his eyes closed. It's to give the ILLUSION of a close game. Pierce is the same way - didn't he win the three-point contest this year?
Just don't say anymore to me about this until you watch the last minute of the game and the overtime. And pay attention to the demeanor of the Celtics.
This has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Ray Allen and Paul Pierce missed on purpose so they could make it look close? Get the fuck out of here.
You are making yourself look like a moron. Those shots were short because they weren't getting enough lift fro their legs in overtime when compared to the beginning of the game.
That statement is correct.
Watch the replay...
If you don't understand me than you and I are on a different level.
Did you see those 2 Three's Allen made nothing but net??? He can make the shot with his eyes closed. It's to give the ILLUSION of a close game. Pierce is the same way - didn't he win the three-point contest this year?
Just don't say anymore to me about this until you watch the last minute of the game and the overtime. And pay attention to the demeanor of the Celtics.
did u watch the GAME????? Please watch it again...then think about it......Do Orlando really got a good chance winning this Series???...... Orlando plays their best game against Boston..and almost got Wipe-OUT!!!! Just got LUCKY! & 1 or 2 Lucky FOUL call......
did u watch the GAME????? Please watch it again...then think about it......Do Orlando really got a good chance winning this Series???...... Orlando plays their best game against Boston..and almost got Wipe-OUT!!!! Just got LUCKY! & 1 or 2 Lucky FOUL call......
If you don't understand me than you and I are on a different level.
Did you see those 2 Three's Allen made nothing but net??? He can make the shot with his eyes closed. It's to give the ILLUSION of a close game. Pierce is the same way - didn't he win the three-point contest this year?
Just don't say anymore to me about this until you watch the last minute of the game and the overtime. And pay attention to the demeanor of the Celtics.
Who cares if paul pierce won the 3pt shootout? He doesnt shoot 100%. Your an idiot. Stern could end up in jail of he really was arranging the way all these games ended up. By the way... was stern rooting for the magic to beat the cavs last year?
If you don't understand me than you and I are on a different level.
Did you see those 2 Three's Allen made nothing but net??? He can make the shot with his eyes closed. It's to give the ILLUSION of a close game. Pierce is the same way - didn't he win the three-point contest this year?
Just don't say anymore to me about this until you watch the last minute of the game and the overtime. And pay attention to the demeanor of the Celtics.
Who cares if paul pierce won the 3pt shootout? He doesnt shoot 100%. Your an idiot. Stern could end up in jail of he really was arranging the way all these games ended up. By the way... was stern rooting for the magic to beat the cavs last year?
Boston played about as bad as they could play (only Ray Allen had a decent game among the starting 8 rotation)... Orlando literally played out of their minds... best possible game you can get from Jameer Nelson and Dwight Howard... absolute best case scenario... and they still almost lost (should have), and needed the single luckiest shot i have seen in 30 years of watching the NBA (Nelson's banked 3 pointer) to win the game in OT...
Orlando has exactly as good of a chance of coming back from a 3-0 deficit as the previous 93 NBA teams that have faced that deficit...
Rondo will not have another terrible game like that, and Boston will return to form in game 5...
That's the luckiest shot you've in 30 years in that situation?
Boston played about as bad as they could play (only Ray Allen had a decent game among the starting 8 rotation)... Orlando literally played out of their minds... best possible game you can get from Jameer Nelson and Dwight Howard... absolute best case scenario... and they still almost lost (should have), and needed the single luckiest shot i have seen in 30 years of watching the NBA (Nelson's banked 3 pointer) to win the game in OT...
Orlando has exactly as good of a chance of coming back from a 3-0 deficit as the previous 93 NBA teams that have faced that deficit...
Rondo will not have another terrible game like that, and Boston will return to form in game 5...
That's the luckiest shot you've in 30 years in that situation?
If you don't understand me than you and I are on a different level.
Did you see those 2 Three's Allen made nothing but net??? He can make the shot with his eyes closed. It's to give the ILLUSION of a close game. Pierce is the same way - didn't he win the three-point contest this year?
Just don't say anymore to me about this until you watch the last minute of the game and the overtime. And pay attention to the demeanor of the Celtics.
How many 3 pointers did ORL players missed in the 1st 3 games ?
Are they missing those shots for this " conspiracy 's purpose "?
BOS will win this series because they are BETTER ! not because of your "Stern's Theory "
If you don't understand me than you and I are on a different level.
Did you see those 2 Three's Allen made nothing but net??? He can make the shot with his eyes closed. It's to give the ILLUSION of a close game. Pierce is the same way - didn't he win the three-point contest this year?
Just don't say anymore to me about this until you watch the last minute of the game and the overtime. And pay attention to the demeanor of the Celtics.
How many 3 pointers did ORL players missed in the 1st 3 games ?
Are they missing those shots for this " conspiracy 's purpose "?
BOS will win this series because they are BETTER ! not because of your "Stern's Theory "
I'd have to say Pierce had a good game my friend, not just Ray Ray.
Rondo was completely taken out of that game because of the early foul trouble. Wasn't able to be aggressive like he usually is and that's what killed them at the end of the game. In the last 2-3 minutes of regulation and for the entire overtime period the Celtics offense consisted of passing the ball to either Paul Pierce or Ray Allen and isolating. No penetration into the lane by Rondo, no drive and kick, nothing. KG and Big Baby were afraid to shoot, as was Rondo.
I highly doubt that will be the case in Game 5, unless of course Stern puts the call into the refs to help get Rondo a few fouls early on. Even then, the Magic are just overmatched. I like the Celtics to win by about the same margin as the Magic did in Game 4.
Ray played very well but Pierce sucked ..
with 14 seconds left in the fourth quarter Boston had the ball
and Pierce let the clock expire . Hmmm
not sure why he wanted to take the last shot ... they could have tried something else but Pierce looked like a ball hog
He also missed his shots in overtime.. not a good performance at all
I'd have to say Pierce had a good game my friend, not just Ray Ray.
Rondo was completely taken out of that game because of the early foul trouble. Wasn't able to be aggressive like he usually is and that's what killed them at the end of the game. In the last 2-3 minutes of regulation and for the entire overtime period the Celtics offense consisted of passing the ball to either Paul Pierce or Ray Allen and isolating. No penetration into the lane by Rondo, no drive and kick, nothing. KG and Big Baby were afraid to shoot, as was Rondo.
I highly doubt that will be the case in Game 5, unless of course Stern puts the call into the refs to help get Rondo a few fouls early on. Even then, the Magic are just overmatched. I like the Celtics to win by about the same margin as the Magic did in Game 4.
Ray played very well but Pierce sucked ..
with 14 seconds left in the fourth quarter Boston had the ball
and Pierce let the clock expire . Hmmm
not sure why he wanted to take the last shot ... they could have tried something else but Pierce looked like a ball hog
He also missed his shots in overtime.. not a good performance at all
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