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Posted: 4/26/2012 8:33:45 PM

Trade up one spot,from 4 to 3, but also give up their 4th (118), 5th (139) and 7th round pick (211) ......To get Richardson......who nobody else was gonna move up to take.....

 

friggin Browns.....no wonder they suck behind every year. Who was in the war room that gave that decision the thumbs up? WTF?

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Posted: 4/26/2012 8:36:16 PM
Tampa was gonna trade up. Cleveland did give up a lot though. 
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Posted: 4/26/2012 8:39:01 PM
There was another team courting the 3. If he works out it wont matter. GL
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Posted: 4/26/2012 8:47:49 PM
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Posted: 4/26/2012 8:50:04 PM

Dallas traded up for Barron? I bet they could have stayed at #14 and got him. Bad move IMO. Think Cox or Claiborne would have been the pick.

Train for once I agree with you. NFL has turned to a passing league and would never take a RB that high.

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Posted: 4/26/2012 8:53:00 PM
Miami really had no choice but they will still suck.
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Posted: 4/26/2012 8:57:37 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by ZippyChippy:

Tampa was gonna trade up. Cleveland did give up a lot though. 

Tampa wasnt gonna take Richardson even if they did trade up to #3.....Clev got the player they wwanted no matter what.

Dallas with a great move to get Claiborne at #6 and only giving up a 2nd round pick.

STL really fucked up by trading the #2 so early to Wash. They could have got a much better deal if they waited til testerday or this morning.

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Posted: 4/26/2012 9:11:58 PM
I agree with 'day of' trading.
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Posted: 4/26/2012 10:04:20 PM
I thought it was pretty damn strange also.
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Posted: 4/26/2012 11:12:41 PM
Jets would have traded for that spot. Cleveland needs a bloody wr and qb. How many times do teams get a quality rb in rds 2-4 but instead they trade up to get Richardson at 3?
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Posted: 4/26/2012 11:16:46 PM
it amazes me how teams will trade so much for draft picks and so little for players, baffling

asante samuel for 6th round pick, morris claiborne for 2nd.  its crazy, i get the money but still
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Posted: 4/26/2012 11:18:42 PM
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Originally Posted by IgetMoney101:

Jets would have traded for that spot. Cleveland needs a bloody wr and qb. How many times do teams get a quality rb in rds 2-4 but instead they trade up to get Richardson at 3?

I dont think the Jets would have selected Richardson

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Posted: 4/26/2012 11:24:50 PM
jets were not getting richardson, they would have had to trade basically their whole draft
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Posted: 4/26/2012 11:27:58 PM
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jets were not getting richardson, they would have had to trade basically their whole draft

Who would they have selected then? WHy would the Browns give a away 3 additional picks to move up 1 spot to get a player they would gave got anyway?

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Posted: 4/27/2012 12:15:58 AM
Bucs would have moved to 3 if they didn't. They had to...it's the guy they wanted. And they may have given up some picks, but I don't think it was too much.

Dallas with the move of the night IMO...great stuff
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Posted: 4/27/2012 12:38:11 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

Who would they have selected then? WHy would the Browns give a away 3 additional picks to move up 1 spot to get a player they would gave got anyway?


Train.. It is not so much that they traded up one spot (that in itself would of been stupid). It is that they feared other teams would of traded for that spot to get TR. Other teams, who  wanted TR, knew that cleveland was going to take him (right or wrong) and therefore Cleveland decided that they could not let that happen.
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Posted: 4/27/2012 1:11:30 AM
It's like when you buy a point.. most of the time you don't need it and you end up paying a bit more for your win, but sometimes it's worth the price for the insurance
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Posted: 4/27/2012 1:13:21 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mattbrot:


Train.. It is not so much that they traded up one spot (that in itself would of been stupid). It is that they feared other teams would of traded for that spot to get TR. Other teams, who  wanted TR, knew that cleveland was going to take him (right or wrong) and therefore Cleveland decided that they could not let that happen.
Plus they have 13 picks this draft... Aint signing 13 players.....Got a great Rb and a flyer on a potential sleeper QB... IMO Oak St QB  just may be the steal of the 1st round ... In todays NFL a quality QB is a must now worth a gamble to try and find one.. Great draft for the Browns today..
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Posted: 4/27/2012 4:09:31 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

Trade up one spot,from 4 to 3, but also give up their 4th (118), 5th (139) and 7th round pick (211) ......To get Richardson......who nobody else was gonna move up to take.....

 

friggin Browns.....no wonder they suck behind every year. Who was in the war room that gave that decision the thumbs up? WTF?

Browns or a lucky team picking up Richardson, the trade up was a good move. If you think nobody else was going to try and get him your dead wrong Train.

He's a workhorse and will be ready on day one, and he don't fumble the ball either, and is great catching the ball when Colt has to get rid of the ball fast.

Enjoy the moment...its going to be fun to watch the next Emmit Smith in NFL.

Richardson will be rookie of the year!!!

Browns learned their lesson from last year passing up Julio Jones, when players leave Alabama and or elite players from high school to college you can't keep letting other teams draft them if theres a why you can improve your team.

If you won't to talk about a bad pick they made you can say Weeden was it. Colt McCoy is a better QB. Paying Weeden millions coming out the 1st round is stupid at his age.

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Posted: 4/27/2012 4:25:59 AM

Browns or a lucky team picking up Richardson, the trade up was a good move. If you think nobody else was going to try and get him your dead wrong Train.

He's a workhorse and will be ready on day one, and he don't fumble the ball either, and is great catching the ball when Colt has to get rid of the ball fast.

Enjoy the moment...its going to be fun to watch the next Emmit Smith in NFL.

Richardson will be rookie of the year!!!

Browns learned their lesson from last year passing up Julio Jones, when players leave Alabama and or elite players from high school to college you can't keep letting other teams draft them if theres a way you can improve your team.

If you won't to talk about a bad pick they made you can say Weeden was it. Colt McCoy is a better QB. Paying Weeden millions coming out the 1st round is stupid at his age.

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Posted: 4/27/2012 6:54:01 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Lucan:

Browns or a lucky team picking up Richardson, the trade up was a good move. If you think nobody else was going to try and get him your dead wrong Train.

He's a workhorse and will be ready on day one, and he don't fumble the ball either, and is great catching the ball when Colt has to get rid of the ball fast.

Enjoy the moment...its going to be fun to watch the next Emmit Smith in NFL.

Richardson will be rookie of the year!!!

Browns learned their lesson from last year passing up Julio Jones, when players leave Alabama and or elite players from high school to college you can't keep letting other teams draft them if theres a way you can improve your team.

If you won't to talk about a bad pick they made you can say Weeden was it. Colt McCoy is a better QB. Paying Weeden millions coming out the 1st round is stupid at his age.

Eagles runningback Lesean Mccoy is very Emmitt Smith like.

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Posted: 4/27/2012 7:13:41 AM
Trent richardson is an all-pro level back. The best back to come out of college since adrian peterson. Hes the perfect back for their division also. Nothing wrong witg giving up a few hit or miss picks for an all-pro back when you have that many picks. Good move by cleveland
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Posted: 4/27/2012 8:29:20 AM
The pick I don't get is Weeden at #22.  I think Colt can be successful in this league with a solid supporting cast and he was never given a chance.
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Posted: 4/27/2012 9:39:00 AM

flamingo enough about mccoy he's not a franchise qb. I said it to jacksmack the browns can get andre johnson calivin johnson and larry fitzgerald tomrrow and with mccoy or weeden you'll be 6-10. Pur Rodgers on the browns they're 8-8 because aaron makes everybody better. Mccoy doesn't

It tells you all you need to know that his teammates didn't fight James Harrison when he used that cheap hit on that thursday game. If he was the guy they would've fought and beat the crap out of harrison

As far as richardson this is 2012 not 1954 should've taken blackmon. 2 wasted picks

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Posted: 4/27/2012 10:05:20 AM
Weeden is more talented and more of a pro qb than McCoy.
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