Minor infractions reported...posted by an Alabama fan
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Nothing has changed since this!!!USA today report
TUSCALOOSA, Ala. — NCAA charges released Friday accused Alabama's football program of major recruiting violations, including paying cash for players, academic fraud and throwing parties with strippers.
The alleged violations occurred from 1995 until last year — before the current Crimson Tide coaching staff was hired.
But the allegations painted a sordid picture for a scandal-plagued program once known for winning national championships and boasting that it stayed out of the NCAA doghouse.
A booster offered a high school coach $115,000 for a player and actually made three payments of $10,000, the NCAA charged. Ex-Tide coaches were accused of repeatedly breaking rules and then denying any wrongdoing to investigators.
The NCAA said more than just money was involved in the improprieties.
https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2001-09-07-alabama.htm
Nothing has changed since this!!!USA today report
TUSCALOOSA, Ala. — NCAA charges released Friday accused Alabama's football program of major recruiting violations, including paying cash for players, academic fraud and throwing parties with strippers.
The alleged violations occurred from 1995 until last year — before the current Crimson Tide coaching staff was hired.
But the allegations painted a sordid picture for a scandal-plagued program once known for winning national championships and boasting that it stayed out of the NCAA doghouse.
A booster offered a high school coach $115,000 for a player and actually made three payments of $10,000, the NCAA charged. Ex-Tide coaches were accused of repeatedly breaking rules and then denying any wrongdoing to investigators.
The NCAA said more than just money was involved in the improprieties.
https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2001-09-07-alabama.htm
So back a few months I posted pictures of Alabama Crimson Tide running back Mark Ingram rocking bigger bling than his 50 million dollar friend Joe Haden. As time passed the NCAA decided to go “Cam Newton let’s turn our head”. But now thanks to some handy haters from Georgia I have acquired these pictures of Mark Ingram, Julio Jones, and Dre Kirkpatrick all stunting new cars (Denali) before the Capital One Bowl. It does draw one top question….is the whole state of Alabama corrupt with paying players or is this just another typical SEC cover-up? You be the judge. (By the way, Ingram’s diamonds are real! He was the Cam Newton before Cam Newton). I suspect Mark Ingram will take a paycut if he leaves for the NFL, just an observation.
So back a few months I posted pictures of Alabama Crimson Tide running back Mark Ingram rocking bigger bling than his 50 million dollar friend Joe Haden. As time passed the NCAA decided to go “Cam Newton let’s turn our head”. But now thanks to some handy haters from Georgia I have acquired these pictures of Mark Ingram, Julio Jones, and Dre Kirkpatrick all stunting new cars (Denali) before the Capital One Bowl. It does draw one top question….is the whole state of Alabama corrupt with paying players or is this just another typical SEC cover-up? You be the judge. (By the way, Ingram’s diamonds are real! He was the Cam Newton before Cam Newton). I suspect Mark Ingram will take a paycut if he leaves for the NFL, just an observation.
* A supporter of Alabama took Calloway to Tuscaloosa multiple times including the weekend prior to national signing day.
* The supporter allegedly then drove Calloway out of state and kept him there until he returned to his hometown of Russellville, Alabama on signing day.
* Before Calloway’s final trip to Tuscaloosa pre-signing day, the Bama supporter allegedly made cash payments to Harland “Peaches” Winston who is Calloway’s adoptive father.
* Winston supposedly received $2,500 from the Bama fan on at least one occasion.
* Supposedly, Winston also received aid in catching up on his home mortgage.
* The fan also allegedly provided Calloway with a new car that the player drove to school. Supposedly enough questions were asked about the car that it was returned on the same day.
* Allegedly, the car was purchased by the Bama supporter from a dealership in Muscle Shoals owned by yet another Alabama supporter.
* Supposedly, the supporter told Calloway that he would receive $1,200 per month while playing at Alabama.
* A supporter of Alabama took Calloway to Tuscaloosa multiple times including the weekend prior to national signing day.
* The supporter allegedly then drove Calloway out of state and kept him there until he returned to his hometown of Russellville, Alabama on signing day.
* Before Calloway’s final trip to Tuscaloosa pre-signing day, the Bama supporter allegedly made cash payments to Harland “Peaches” Winston who is Calloway’s adoptive father.
* Winston supposedly received $2,500 from the Bama fan on at least one occasion.
* Supposedly, Winston also received aid in catching up on his home mortgage.
* The fan also allegedly provided Calloway with a new car that the player drove to school. Supposedly enough questions were asked about the car that it was returned on the same day.
* Allegedly, the car was purchased by the Bama supporter from a dealership in Muscle Shoals owned by yet another Alabama supporter.
* Supposedly, the supporter told Calloway that he would receive $1,200 per month while playing at Alabama.
On Alabama’s official athletics page, Rolltide.com, they have an entire page outlining their policy for “Football Memorabilia, Autographs and Charitable Requests.” Here’s what it says:
“This policy applies to all memorabilia, autographs, and charitable requests in the sport of football. Student-athlete autographs are not available by request but may be obtained at fan days or other special events. Head coach autographs are available to IRC 501(c) (3) charitable organizations that register with the University and provide the required documentation. However, head coach autographs are not available from August through the first week of February and are subject to availability the rest of the year.
Due to the exceptionally large demand, requests for autographs made by individuals of the general public will not be fulfilled. Individual autographs may be obtained at Fan Day, Crimson Caravan events, and other public signing events to be announced.
In lieu of autograph requests, individuals may purchase limited edition signature series balls and other items through the online UA Memorabilia Store.”
Bama explicitly notes that autograph requests are in high demand and that many requests will go unfulfilled. They try to run autograph sales through their memorabilia store.
Given how stringent they are regarding autographs and memorabilia, you think they would have noticed and made a move on a store that was competing with their policy for several months prior to the cease and desist letter being sent. The time stamps of some pictures show this has been going on since at least December 2009, a full year before any letter was sent
On Alabama’s official athletics page, Rolltide.com, they have an entire page outlining their policy for “Football Memorabilia, Autographs and Charitable Requests.” Here’s what it says:
“This policy applies to all memorabilia, autographs, and charitable requests in the sport of football. Student-athlete autographs are not available by request but may be obtained at fan days or other special events. Head coach autographs are available to IRC 501(c) (3) charitable organizations that register with the University and provide the required documentation. However, head coach autographs are not available from August through the first week of February and are subject to availability the rest of the year.
Due to the exceptionally large demand, requests for autographs made by individuals of the general public will not be fulfilled. Individual autographs may be obtained at Fan Day, Crimson Caravan events, and other public signing events to be announced.
In lieu of autograph requests, individuals may purchase limited edition signature series balls and other items through the online UA Memorabilia Store.”
Bama explicitly notes that autograph requests are in high demand and that many requests will go unfulfilled. They try to run autograph sales through their memorabilia store.
Given how stringent they are regarding autographs and memorabilia, you think they would have noticed and made a move on a store that was competing with their policy for several months prior to the cease and desist letter being sent. The time stamps of some pictures show this has been going on since at least December 2009, a full year before any letter was sent
Yacker.......im citing my references, which one of the Alabama fans sasid i could get in trouble for!!!!
thank him for the reposts!!!
I love that alabama is awesome with more 5* recruits than anybody...ive cleared 35,000$$$ Betting on them this season!!!
Yacker.......im citing my references, which one of the Alabama fans sasid i could get in trouble for!!!!
thank him for the reposts!!!
I love that alabama is awesome with more 5* recruits than anybody...ive cleared 35,000$$$ Betting on them this season!!!
Any infringement of those rules can jeopardize an athlete's remaining eligibility and put the school in danger of facing additional NCAA sanctions, as was the case with Reggie Bush and Southern Cal's football team.
Smith told The Associated Press that the opening round of talks focused almost entirely on categories that need to be discussed.
One of those was post-NCAA enforcement, or penalties that could be imposed after the player turns pro, though Smith emphasized no formal proposals have been made and none are expected for at least three months.
The NCAA is treading carefully.
"It should be understood that the development of any post-NCAA penalty will be considered by the NFL and NFLPA and those groups will agree upon what is appropriate," Osburn said. "What's important is that at the current time all key stakeholders are discussing how best to address the issue."
Contact with agents has been a longtime concern for NCAA officials, dating back at least as far as the late 1980s when Cris Carter was declared ineligible before his senior season after the NCAA determined he had signed with an agent.
Now the NCAA is mounting a wide-ranging investigation into players at several schools.
Players at defending national champion Alabama, Georgia and South Carolina have all been caught up in the investigation, and six North Carolina players will not be allowed to play this season because of the probe.
Perhaps, Smith said, that is why five national championship-winning coaches - Mack Brown, Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, Bob Stoops and Jim Tressel - urged the NCAA to bring all of these groups together.
"I think it's everybody finally putting their hands up and saying enough," Smith said. "They said it's time to stop talking and let's get to work.
Smith thinks the solution has to include stronger sanctions - suspensions or not.
Any infringement of those rules can jeopardize an athlete's remaining eligibility and put the school in danger of facing additional NCAA sanctions, as was the case with Reggie Bush and Southern Cal's football team.
Smith told The Associated Press that the opening round of talks focused almost entirely on categories that need to be discussed.
One of those was post-NCAA enforcement, or penalties that could be imposed after the player turns pro, though Smith emphasized no formal proposals have been made and none are expected for at least three months.
The NCAA is treading carefully.
"It should be understood that the development of any post-NCAA penalty will be considered by the NFL and NFLPA and those groups will agree upon what is appropriate," Osburn said. "What's important is that at the current time all key stakeholders are discussing how best to address the issue."
Contact with agents has been a longtime concern for NCAA officials, dating back at least as far as the late 1980s when Cris Carter was declared ineligible before his senior season after the NCAA determined he had signed with an agent.
Now the NCAA is mounting a wide-ranging investigation into players at several schools.
Players at defending national champion Alabama, Georgia and South Carolina have all been caught up in the investigation, and six North Carolina players will not be allowed to play this season because of the probe.
Perhaps, Smith said, that is why five national championship-winning coaches - Mack Brown, Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, Bob Stoops and Jim Tressel - urged the NCAA to bring all of these groups together.
"I think it's everybody finally putting their hands up and saying enough," Smith said. "They said it's time to stop talking and let's get to work.
Smith thinks the solution has to include stronger sanctions - suspensions or not.
That was the ruling that the NCAA announced Wednesday evening. The organization said the sophomore starters on Alabama's football team will remain eligible on the condition of repayment for "impermissible benefits" they received.
The NCAA is requiring Jones and Ingram to repay the value of the benefits to charity.
Jones, a star wide receiver, and Ingram, the starting running back, took a fishing trip in the spring that was paid for by an Athens businessman.
Alabama investigated the case and concluded that the businessman, 56-year-old Curtis Anderson, is not an Alabama booster. The university self-reported the violation to the Southeastern Conference.
The NCAA announced its decision in a four-paragraph statement early Wednesday evening:
"The NCAA student-athlete reinstatement staff has reinstated the eligibility of University of Alabama football student-athletes Julio Jones and Mark Ingram based on a condition of repayment.
"According to the facts of the case submitted by Alabama, the student-athletes received impermissible food, lodging, transportation and entertainment from an individual with whom one of the student-athletes had become acquainted prior to enrolling in college.
"Consistent with NCAA membership requirements, the institution reported the violation and declared the student-athletes ineligible. As part of the reinstatement request, the institution required the student-athletes to make repayment of the value of the impermissible benefits to charity.
"During the reinstatement process, the NCAA staff considers a number of factors including guidelines established by the NCAA Division I Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement, relevant case precedent, the student-athlete's responsibility for the violation, as well as any mitigating factors presented by the institution."
Alabama athletic director Mal Moore said Alabama officials "are gratified that this matter has been resolved."
"Our compliance department, the SEC and the NCAA worked closely throughout this process," Moore said in a written statement issued by the media relations staff, "and we appreciate the professional manner in which it was handled."
Anxiety about the eligibility of Jones and Ingram was beginning to rise with each day as Saturday's season opener against seventh-ranked Virginia Tech drew closer.
Alabama coach Nick Saban spoke twice about the case Wednesday, but both times were before the NCAA announced its ruling.
Saban was asked Wednesday morning if Alabama did not get a ruling from the NCAA by Saturday, did he plan to sit the two starters out of the 7 p.m. game in Atlanta?
"I think that is up to the NCAA," Saban said on the first of what will be a weekly Southeastern Conference teleconference with reporters. "It's not my decision to do anything.
"We're hoping for a response," Saban said. "We want to do what we need to do to do things the right way from a program standpoint and for the players' best interests. The institution has handled the situation with tremendous integrity. We're hopeful that we will have some sort of resolution in the short term."
Saban did not want to discuss what sitting Jones and Ingram down would mean to the Alabama offense.
"I'm not really into speculating on what might be," Saban said. "I've got enough problems with what is. So let's just focus on what is right now."
Saban repeated many of these comments during his opening statement to the news media following Wednesday's practice.
That was the ruling that the NCAA announced Wednesday evening. The organization said the sophomore starters on Alabama's football team will remain eligible on the condition of repayment for "impermissible benefits" they received.
The NCAA is requiring Jones and Ingram to repay the value of the benefits to charity.
Jones, a star wide receiver, and Ingram, the starting running back, took a fishing trip in the spring that was paid for by an Athens businessman.
Alabama investigated the case and concluded that the businessman, 56-year-old Curtis Anderson, is not an Alabama booster. The university self-reported the violation to the Southeastern Conference.
The NCAA announced its decision in a four-paragraph statement early Wednesday evening:
"The NCAA student-athlete reinstatement staff has reinstated the eligibility of University of Alabama football student-athletes Julio Jones and Mark Ingram based on a condition of repayment.
"According to the facts of the case submitted by Alabama, the student-athletes received impermissible food, lodging, transportation and entertainment from an individual with whom one of the student-athletes had become acquainted prior to enrolling in college.
"Consistent with NCAA membership requirements, the institution reported the violation and declared the student-athletes ineligible. As part of the reinstatement request, the institution required the student-athletes to make repayment of the value of the impermissible benefits to charity.
"During the reinstatement process, the NCAA staff considers a number of factors including guidelines established by the NCAA Division I Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement, relevant case precedent, the student-athlete's responsibility for the violation, as well as any mitigating factors presented by the institution."
Alabama athletic director Mal Moore said Alabama officials "are gratified that this matter has been resolved."
"Our compliance department, the SEC and the NCAA worked closely throughout this process," Moore said in a written statement issued by the media relations staff, "and we appreciate the professional manner in which it was handled."
Anxiety about the eligibility of Jones and Ingram was beginning to rise with each day as Saturday's season opener against seventh-ranked Virginia Tech drew closer.
Alabama coach Nick Saban spoke twice about the case Wednesday, but both times were before the NCAA announced its ruling.
Saban was asked Wednesday morning if Alabama did not get a ruling from the NCAA by Saturday, did he plan to sit the two starters out of the 7 p.m. game in Atlanta?
"I think that is up to the NCAA," Saban said on the first of what will be a weekly Southeastern Conference teleconference with reporters. "It's not my decision to do anything.
"We're hoping for a response," Saban said. "We want to do what we need to do to do things the right way from a program standpoint and for the players' best interests. The institution has handled the situation with tremendous integrity. We're hopeful that we will have some sort of resolution in the short term."
Saban did not want to discuss what sitting Jones and Ingram down would mean to the Alabama offense.
"I'm not really into speculating on what might be," Saban said. "I've got enough problems with what is. So let's just focus on what is right now."
Saban repeated many of these comments during his opening statement to the news media following Wednesday's practice.
With so much info/ whistleblowers..And Alabama is on probation.....how are they not being looked at....and what about Auburn and Miss st.....Glaring evidence of breaking the rules ...and nothing......???I guess it took 4 years for the shit to hit the fan with USC.....so maybe by next year and 2 more alabama championships!!!!
Emmert is a SEC homer...That why nothing has happened JINNRIKKI!!!! He was LSU president while Saban was there and put him where he is!!!1 million $$$ a year job!!! and he does very little!!!
With so much info/ whistleblowers..And Alabama is on probation.....how are they not being looked at....and what about Auburn and Miss st.....Glaring evidence of breaking the rules ...and nothing......???I guess it took 4 years for the shit to hit the fan with USC.....so maybe by next year and 2 more alabama championships!!!!
Emmert is a SEC homer...That why nothing has happened JINNRIKKI!!!! He was LSU president while Saban was there and put him where he is!!!1 million $$$ a year job!!! and he does very little!!!
IF Alabama wins it again ...who will come calling to hire him???And if any of he "allegations" in this thread are true...he would assuredley jump ship (Pete Carroll style)!!!
Potential Suitors!!
1) Eagles---might be interested??
2) Cowboys---probably hear them out
3) Texas Longhorns--nah
4) Browns
5) USC???Why not???
6) OU---Addicted to stoops
Again, He would only leave Alabama if he feels the "HEAT"!!!
IF Alabama wins it again ...who will come calling to hire him???And if any of he "allegations" in this thread are true...he would assuredley jump ship (Pete Carroll style)!!!
Potential Suitors!!
1) Eagles---might be interested??
2) Cowboys---probably hear them out
3) Texas Longhorns--nah
4) Browns
5) USC???Why not???
6) OU---Addicted to stoops
Again, He would only leave Alabama if he feels the "HEAT"!!!
Dude all this shit is old as Lou Holtz!! Get over it and move along. All teams commit secondary violations. These kids are 17-22 years old. I know we were not all as perfect as you at that age.
Nick Saban usually reports all violations that are commited by his team. It's the Baptist way. Do first and ask forgiveness later.
I'm sure you were the first one to break the Ohio State Scandal too....Oh wait, you still have 3 years before you'll start presenting the evidence.
All this is old news!! MOVE ON!!!
Come off it already!!
Dude all this shit is old as Lou Holtz!! Get over it and move along. All teams commit secondary violations. These kids are 17-22 years old. I know we were not all as perfect as you at that age.
Nick Saban usually reports all violations that are commited by his team. It's the Baptist way. Do first and ask forgiveness later.
I'm sure you were the first one to break the Ohio State Scandal too....Oh wait, you still have 3 years before you'll start presenting the evidence.
All this is old news!! MOVE ON!!!
Come off it already!!
i said i reposted it, because an Alabama fan told me i could get in trouble for not citing my sources!!!The thread was full until just yesterday, and more space opened up on it!!!
How long did it take the Regie bush thing to work itslef out??
That is why i re-posted it!!!!
i said i reposted it, because an Alabama fan told me i could get in trouble for not citing my sources!!!The thread was full until just yesterday, and more space opened up on it!!!
How long did it take the Regie bush thing to work itslef out??
That is why i re-posted it!!!!
YOU WISH IT WAS OVER...BUT CHECK THIS OUT BRO!!!
Article in 2010.......Probation 2010 and 2011!!
The NCAA started their investigation into Reggie Bush over four years ago and they are still collecting evidence to this day. Most recently they’re trying to get there hands on copies of the documents filed in Michael Michaels, the man who's name appeared on the deed to the house Reggie's parents were staying in rent free for over a year. The Bus case never went to trial because Bush is rumored to have settled out of court for $300,000.
But the more damaging evidence could come once both Bush and Michaels give depositions next week, in a case Michaels business partner and convicted drug dealer Lloyd Lake is currently pursuing against Bush.
You might ask yourself why Bush doesn’t just settle out of court with this dude like he did Michaels to keep potential incriminating evidence from seeing the light? And the answer to that would be because Lake was asking for a $3.2 million settlement instead of a measly $300K.
Why so much for the hush money? Because Lake, who has affiliations with the street gang the Emerald Hill Bloods, was giving the Bush’s drug money and he claims they knew it.
As Lake's lawyer put it: “Yes, Lloyd Lake has been in prison and the Bushes knew that at the time they entered into this agreement with him. He seems to insinuate here that the money was from ill-gotten gains or was drug money. If it is drug money, the Bushes had no problem spending it. ”
But what this comes down to is, will Bush cough up the dough to keep Lake quiet and the NCAA from getting their hands on more evidence they'll use to bury USC? If we were in Reggie’s position we wouldn’t pay Lake a dime.
In all reality, Reggie would just be playing to try and keep the wins from the 2004-05 seasons, the 2004 national championship, and his 2005 Heisman.
Over Not likely!!!!
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/379508-reggie-bush-was-paid-with-drug-money-while-at-usc
YOU WISH IT WAS OVER...BUT CHECK THIS OUT BRO!!!
Article in 2010.......Probation 2010 and 2011!!
The NCAA started their investigation into Reggie Bush over four years ago and they are still collecting evidence to this day. Most recently they’re trying to get there hands on copies of the documents filed in Michael Michaels, the man who's name appeared on the deed to the house Reggie's parents were staying in rent free for over a year. The Bus case never went to trial because Bush is rumored to have settled out of court for $300,000.
But the more damaging evidence could come once both Bush and Michaels give depositions next week, in a case Michaels business partner and convicted drug dealer Lloyd Lake is currently pursuing against Bush.
You might ask yourself why Bush doesn’t just settle out of court with this dude like he did Michaels to keep potential incriminating evidence from seeing the light? And the answer to that would be because Lake was asking for a $3.2 million settlement instead of a measly $300K.
Why so much for the hush money? Because Lake, who has affiliations with the street gang the Emerald Hill Bloods, was giving the Bush’s drug money and he claims they knew it.
As Lake's lawyer put it: “Yes, Lloyd Lake has been in prison and the Bushes knew that at the time they entered into this agreement with him. He seems to insinuate here that the money was from ill-gotten gains or was drug money. If it is drug money, the Bushes had no problem spending it. ”
But what this comes down to is, will Bush cough up the dough to keep Lake quiet and the NCAA from getting their hands on more evidence they'll use to bury USC? If we were in Reggie’s position we wouldn’t pay Lake a dime.
In all reality, Reggie would just be playing to try and keep the wins from the 2004-05 seasons, the 2004 national championship, and his 2005 Heisman.
Over Not likely!!!!
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/379508-reggie-bush-was-paid-with-drug-money-while-at-usc
Reggie Bush took $$$ 2002-2004
USC sanctions 2010-2012 (bowl ban...the only thing that matters)
I dont think USC was on probation at the time of violations either???
Reggie Bush took $$$ 2002-2004
USC sanctions 2010-2012 (bowl ban...the only thing that matters)
I dont think USC was on probation at the time of violations either???
probably both situations and cam newton helped to push this
INDIANAPOLIS — The NCAA passed a package of sweeping changes today, intended to crack down hard on rule-breaking schools and coaches.
Under the new legislation, approved by the 13-member board of directors, programs that commit the most egregious infractions could face postseason bans of two to four years and fines stretching into the millions, while coaches could face suspensions of up to one year for violations committed by their staffs. The board also approved measures to expand the penalty structure from two tiers to four, create new penalty guidelines and speed up the litigation process.
"I think when you're the person in charge, you have to make sure that you're doing everything you can for your coaches to follow the rules," Michigan State football coach Mark Dantonio said today. "You asked me to put myself on the line here (laughter).
"I think the head coach should have some responsibility in there. Obviously, you're not there all the time. You have to have a staff that's going to follow your direction. Obviously, if the coaches don't follow your direction, that's out of your hands. I don't know what you can do about that."
The vote ends a movement that started in August 2011, during one of the most scandalous years in college sports history. NCAA president Mark Emmert was so concerned that he asked dozens of university leaders to join him at a presidential retreat in Indianapolis.
It was then that Emmert, along with school presidents and chancellors, said they were going to get tough on those who refused to play by the rules.
Now they have.
“We have sought all along to remove the ‘risk-reward’ analysis that has tempted people — often because of the financial pressures to win at all costs — to break the rules in the hopes that either they won’t be caught or that the consequences won’t be very harsh if they do get caught,” Emmert said. “The new system the board adopted today is the result of a lot of hard work and membership input devoted to protecting the collegiate model.”
Under the plan, violators found in a “serious breach of conduct” with aggravating circumstances could get those postseason bans and be forced to return millions of dollars from specific events or gross revenue generated by the sport during those years in which rules were broken.
That’s exactly what happened to Penn State in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky scandal. The NCAA banned the Nittany Lions’ football program from postseason play until after the 2016 season and levied a $60-million fine on the school.
If a member of the coaching staff commits an egregious infraction, the head coach must prove he or she was unaware it occurred or face a suspension that ranges from 10% of the season to one full season.
“We expect head coaches to provide practices and training and written materials that instruct their assistant coaches how to act,” said NCAA executive committee chairman Ed Ray, the Oregon State president. “If they’ve done that, it can become mitigating evidence that they shouldn’t be held accountable for what the assistant coach did. But head coaches have to have these things in place or the presumption will be that he or she didn’t care enough to set standards. In that case, if the assistant goes rogue, then it’s partly the head coach’s fault, and they need to be held accountable.”
Another piece of the plan allows the NCAA to scrap its current system of major and secondary infractions for a four-level stepladder — severe breach of conduct, significant breach of conduct, breach of conduct and incidental issues. The board is hoping this allows the enforcement staff to focus primarily on the most serious cases.
What if the new policies don’t the stem the tide of cheating? The NCAA could make additional changes.
“We’ll continue to evaluate it and if we recognize something is not working in the right area, that’s a step we will rectify,” NCAA director of enforcement Chris Strobel told the Associated Press on Monday.
The legislation also creates standard penalty guidelines, something schools and college fans have long argued the NCAA needed, and board members also approved a measure to expand the infractions committee, from 10 to up to 24 members. They’re hoping the committee will use the extra members in a rotation so hearings can be held 10 times per year instead of the current five — in hopes of breaking the backlog of cases that traditionally has bogged things down.
Infractions that occur as of today but are not resolved before Aug. 1. 2013, will be subject to the new sanctions. Schools currently under investigation, such as Miami (Fla.), also could be hit with the new penalties if their cases are not resolved before Aug. 1, too.
“The committee on infractions could proceed under the new standards or could apply the penalties under the old standards, based on whatever is more beneficial to the institution,” Strobel said.
Emmert has backed every legislative piece of the reform movement.
Last fall, the governing body passed a measure calling for tougher eligibility requirements on incoming freshmen and junior college transfers; another that tied academic performance to postseason eligibility; a third that give schools flexibility to offer multiyear scholarships or stick with the standard one-year scholarships (it withstood an override attempt); and a fourth that allowed student-athletes to collect stipends of up to $2,000.
The stipend plan was shelved, though Emmert wants to put it in place. That is unlikely to happen before the board’s January meeting and maybe later. Another committee is trying to shrink the NCAA’s massive rule book, but no formal proposal is anticipated before January.
Coincidence????????????????
probably both situations and cam newton helped to push this
INDIANAPOLIS — The NCAA passed a package of sweeping changes today, intended to crack down hard on rule-breaking schools and coaches.
Under the new legislation, approved by the 13-member board of directors, programs that commit the most egregious infractions could face postseason bans of two to four years and fines stretching into the millions, while coaches could face suspensions of up to one year for violations committed by their staffs. The board also approved measures to expand the penalty structure from two tiers to four, create new penalty guidelines and speed up the litigation process.
"I think when you're the person in charge, you have to make sure that you're doing everything you can for your coaches to follow the rules," Michigan State football coach Mark Dantonio said today. "You asked me to put myself on the line here (laughter).
"I think the head coach should have some responsibility in there. Obviously, you're not there all the time. You have to have a staff that's going to follow your direction. Obviously, if the coaches don't follow your direction, that's out of your hands. I don't know what you can do about that."
The vote ends a movement that started in August 2011, during one of the most scandalous years in college sports history. NCAA president Mark Emmert was so concerned that he asked dozens of university leaders to join him at a presidential retreat in Indianapolis.
It was then that Emmert, along with school presidents and chancellors, said they were going to get tough on those who refused to play by the rules.
Now they have.
“We have sought all along to remove the ‘risk-reward’ analysis that has tempted people — often because of the financial pressures to win at all costs — to break the rules in the hopes that either they won’t be caught or that the consequences won’t be very harsh if they do get caught,” Emmert said. “The new system the board adopted today is the result of a lot of hard work and membership input devoted to protecting the collegiate model.”
Under the plan, violators found in a “serious breach of conduct” with aggravating circumstances could get those postseason bans and be forced to return millions of dollars from specific events or gross revenue generated by the sport during those years in which rules were broken.
That’s exactly what happened to Penn State in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky scandal. The NCAA banned the Nittany Lions’ football program from postseason play until after the 2016 season and levied a $60-million fine on the school.
If a member of the coaching staff commits an egregious infraction, the head coach must prove he or she was unaware it occurred or face a suspension that ranges from 10% of the season to one full season.
“We expect head coaches to provide practices and training and written materials that instruct their assistant coaches how to act,” said NCAA executive committee chairman Ed Ray, the Oregon State president. “If they’ve done that, it can become mitigating evidence that they shouldn’t be held accountable for what the assistant coach did. But head coaches have to have these things in place or the presumption will be that he or she didn’t care enough to set standards. In that case, if the assistant goes rogue, then it’s partly the head coach’s fault, and they need to be held accountable.”
Another piece of the plan allows the NCAA to scrap its current system of major and secondary infractions for a four-level stepladder — severe breach of conduct, significant breach of conduct, breach of conduct and incidental issues. The board is hoping this allows the enforcement staff to focus primarily on the most serious cases.
What if the new policies don’t the stem the tide of cheating? The NCAA could make additional changes.
“We’ll continue to evaluate it and if we recognize something is not working in the right area, that’s a step we will rectify,” NCAA director of enforcement Chris Strobel told the Associated Press on Monday.
The legislation also creates standard penalty guidelines, something schools and college fans have long argued the NCAA needed, and board members also approved a measure to expand the infractions committee, from 10 to up to 24 members. They’re hoping the committee will use the extra members in a rotation so hearings can be held 10 times per year instead of the current five — in hopes of breaking the backlog of cases that traditionally has bogged things down.
Infractions that occur as of today but are not resolved before Aug. 1. 2013, will be subject to the new sanctions. Schools currently under investigation, such as Miami (Fla.), also could be hit with the new penalties if their cases are not resolved before Aug. 1, too.
“The committee on infractions could proceed under the new standards or could apply the penalties under the old standards, based on whatever is more beneficial to the institution,” Strobel said.
Emmert has backed every legislative piece of the reform movement.
Last fall, the governing body passed a measure calling for tougher eligibility requirements on incoming freshmen and junior college transfers; another that tied academic performance to postseason eligibility; a third that give schools flexibility to offer multiyear scholarships or stick with the standard one-year scholarships (it withstood an override attempt); and a fourth that allowed student-athletes to collect stipends of up to $2,000.
The stipend plan was shelved, though Emmert wants to put it in place. That is unlikely to happen before the board’s January meeting and maybe later. Another committee is trying to shrink the NCAA’s massive rule book, but no formal proposal is anticipated before January.
Coincidence????????????????
Your lawyers still havent called!!
"Well...."
Coaches & AD's: " Have you looked at other successful programs around the country and will you put them on probabtion?"
"No...just the SEC!"
Coaches & AD's: " We will have our lawyers contact yours. Until you can provide hard evidence then you can't do this! Also, how in the hell does poor Kentucky and Ole' Miss get put on probabtion?"
Hahahahahaha...wow!!! Pure stupidity!!!
Your lawyers still havent called!!
"Well...."
Coaches & AD's: " Have you looked at other successful programs around the country and will you put them on probabtion?"
"No...just the SEC!"
Coaches & AD's: " We will have our lawyers contact yours. Until you can provide hard evidence then you can't do this! Also, how in the hell does poor Kentucky and Ole' Miss get put on probabtion?"
Hahahahahaha...wow!!! Pure stupidity!!!
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That is because the SEC is gradually building up its count in another department: major NCAA violations in its football programs. Just over two years ago, the stated goal of league commissioner Mike Slive - to have zero SEC schools on probation - seemed within reach. Now, the trend is in the other direction. As of Tuesday, two SEC schools - Alabama and LSU - are on probation for football violations. A third, Tennessee, will join them in a few months for violations in football and basketball, already confessed although not yet weighed by the NCAA.
What lies beyond that? It is a source of boundless speculation. No one can say for sure that other schools will be touched, but Slive acknowledged in an Associated Press interview Tuesday that there is "a growing perception that things aren't exactly as they ought to be in some ways."
There is also a growing perception that the SEC's success is tied in some ways to its violations. With Tuesday's announcement of the LSU findings, all of the league's 12 schools - with one exception - have had major violations cases since 1990. The exception is Vanderbilt. That makes them the white sheep of the SEC flock, and a cynic might point out the thin line between being the white sheep and the sacrificial lamb.
Tide sports June 11th
That is because the SEC is gradually building up its count in another department: major NCAA violations in its football programs. Just over two years ago, the stated goal of league commissioner Mike Slive - to have zero SEC schools on probation - seemed within reach. Now, the trend is in the other direction. As of Tuesday, two SEC schools - Alabama and LSU - are on probation for football violations. A third, Tennessee, will join them in a few months for violations in football and basketball, already confessed although not yet weighed by the NCAA.
What lies beyond that? It is a source of boundless speculation. No one can say for sure that other schools will be touched, but Slive acknowledged in an Associated Press interview Tuesday that there is "a growing perception that things aren't exactly as they ought to be in some ways."
There is also a growing perception that the SEC's success is tied in some ways to its violations. With Tuesday's announcement of the LSU findings, all of the league's 12 schools - with one exception - have had major violations cases since 1990. The exception is Vanderbilt. That makes them the white sheep of the SEC flock, and a cynic might point out the thin line between being the white sheep and the sacrificial lamb.
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